Guide to Parenting by Shilpa Sharma MESSAGE pg37 - Page 18

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Posted: 15 years ago

Sabah, in reply to your step 7, I want to post the following scene... watch from 2:28

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZu2Ur5ezdY[/YOUTUBE]
Mayank is angry that Nupur is making a big deal of that heart shaped locket that he doesn't want to wear.... he voices his anger to his Mom.... see how she handles it this time.... she knows he is also right from his point of view and she is also right from her point of view... but she knows that if she takes his side, it's not going to help because he will still be angry with Nupur and wouldn't be able to sleep all night thinking about her..... so she tells him to surrender.... I mean she tells him to manofy Nupur.... tells him that he should understand the feelings behind the gift... I wonder how she comes up with such real life examples like the knife and the green pepper... 🤣... telling him that evenif it's his fault or hers....it's you who are going to suffer....
And I love the way she forces him to call Nupur and goto her house... I always feel that boys like Mayank need some woman in their life to teach how to behave with your girlfriend.... he listened to his mom... and later in life, he has mellowed down towards Nupur... and part of the credit of this change goes to his Mom... she always told him to be nice with Nupur, treat her with respect...
Edited by -Jess- - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: -Jess-

Sabah, in reply to your step 7, I want to post the following scene... watch from 2:28

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZu2Ur5ezdY[/YOUTUBE]

Aww, Jess this brought back peppered memories! 😆
Mayank is angry that Nupur is making a big deal of that heart shaped locket that he doesn't want to wear.... he voices his anger to his Mom.... see how she handles it this time.... she knows he is also right from his point of view and she is also right from her point of view... but she knows that if she takes his side, it's not going to help because he will still be angry with Nupur and wouldn't be able to sleep all night thinking about her..... so she tells him to surrender.... I mean she tells him to manofy Nupur.... tells him that he should understand the feelings behind the gift... I wonder how she comes up with such real life examples like the knife and the green pepper... 🤣... telling him that evenif it's his fault or hers....it's you who are going to suffer....How does she manage to effortlessly use whatever means is right in front of her?! She takes Nupur's side as a woman and tell Mayank to manofy her BUT she also takes Mayank's side as his mother, as you rightly pointed out so that she doesn't have to bear watching him suffer. She is on both their sides. That takes talent!
And I love the way she forces him to call Nupur and goto her house... I always feel that boys like Mayank need some woman in their life to teach how to behave with your girlfriend.... he listened to his mom... and later in life, he has mellowed down towards Nupur... and part of the credit of this change goes to his Mom... she always told him to be nice with Nupur, treat her with respect...One Mayank's most endearing qualities is the manner he treated both men and women as equals. This is of course a good thing. For instance as I stated before, with Nupur her lack of enthusiasm for studies, was blamed upon her character and not her gender. He treated all women with the utmost respect by judging them as his peers and their relative success in that regard. HOWEVER this equality or 'lack of seeing' gender becomes an obstacle in one respect, when the person in question is your lover!

Shilpa Aunty realised that Mayank needed to see Nupur NOT as another as herself, or his peers such as CJ BUT as a WOMAN, a girl. As you so insightfully pointed out she helped him to understand that what is appropriate behaviour for your friend is not for your girlfriend.

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Posted: 15 years ago
I'll come back in 2 days to write in this thread :)
But this thread makes me so shamefully happy (nothing shameful about being happy .. 😆 just trying to tell u how happy I feel 🤣 ) ...and I love reading every bit of the analysis and love reading the replies n re-replies and reliving those wonderful moments 😊
HAppiness ..thats what I like best abt the MN/Shilpa Aunty moments, they have been the ones who have brought such happiness into my life ..I smile when I see so many moments, I cant help but feel I m in love with these people 😆 If you think I m ermm not making sense, its cos I shud've slept atleast 3 hrs ago , but then here my love has pulled me and made me stay on...:)

@Teju, special mention for I love reading ur posts..:) It always seems to say what I want to say, I'd highlight the bit abt MJHT actually seems to be getting back to track and MN seem to be in character..and everything and I love the enthusiasm with which u write ur posts:)

@Jess, fab explanations and actual translation of the slokas!! Again...I loved the example u posted :)

@sabah.thank u once again for this wonderful post, I will write here soon for I love to write here, but for now, I'll say reserved :D
Edited by myownarea - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: a little faith

finally step 7 is here😃

I beseech God for his bounty.

Step 7 - Anger Management.

Fight fire with water or fight fire with fire. Fire-fighters and mothers alike instinctively know when to use which dampening method. I will place mothers ahead of the Fire fighters as they learn the dampening method & mothers r like face it with bare hands & dampen it like it can never emerge again..However amateurs should call the 'hotline', for 'back-fires' have an unpredictable tendency that can result in despoliation.

{Lesson 7 By Mayank. Golden Life Rule:- Never raise your voice at your mom. As for the rest, a roaring lion has acres of personal space.}

Shilpa Aunty's parenting skills should be applauded. Many parents get into a rut with their children. The same tactics garnering the same responses over and over again until as they say "the moment you realise your parents were correct, your children begin telling you that you are wrong."

In the first instance she uses water and instinctively changes tactics in the second incident and uses fire. She knows that in the first the raging fire burning was devastating Mayank whereas in the second, it was fiercely fuelling a life of passion. I added scenes of CJ too because like the star she is, she too instinctively uses water in the first instance and fire in the second instance to manage the inferno that is Mayank.

U said it all here sabah!C cj & shipa aunty both use this same tactics when it comes to Mayank. This similarity tells me one thing.they both know Mayank need to be handled in special way , he always has this anger issue with him, nupur is the only victim of his anger as the other two person of his life knew it well to bring out the calm mayank from his anger ..& then hit him hard to make him realize the real issue

Fighting fire with water.

She enters the room to find Mayank as 'depressed' as his cushion. As you would puff up that poor pillow, she tries to tease some life back into Mayank by asking about the adoration of his fans, unaware of the store of static produced by unseen 'friction' and receives an electric shock!

That apparent hurt upon hurt upon Mayank's face. The disappointment of Nupur's actions over which his own disappointment of his actions in front of his mother.

She pats away those remnants of rage with the glistening moisture upon her palms.

Then my favourite line, not for its eloquence but for its historical depth. Truthfully, it caught me off guard as when Mayank moved those tea things between him and his mother and said those sweet tones of love, back in step one. Maybe it was because unlike the majority of epiphanies about others it preceded by a lull before the lightening lights up your enlightened mind.

My fav line is "baat tum dono ki hai,mai kissi ek ka side nehi le sakti".its shipa aunty trademark dialogue.a showcase of her unbiased love.....even when fighting with fire!..& i simply love the way she just put her hand on his shoulder.no gussa,no dhamki,no big dialogue....she just did that & the fire is dampened forever!!!

"Saal mein aata hai, lekin narq pe" Correction..."saalme ekbar gussa ata hai,lekin nak per"

KYA? Saal Mein? Is it just a turn of phrase? Sarcasm? i think she was just trying to tell him she can understand when his son get angry ,which is rare! there is some real reason behind it..For me it denotes the blissful harmony of Shilpa Aunty's melody which Mayu hums along to without EVER needing to change the tune.

Fighting fire with fire.

Then number two in my top two favourite Shilpa Aunty moments (number one in Step 8, please inform me of yours too). Vaishnavi's endearing facial expressions combined with that famous sass, or 'Smart Alec Sharma Sarcasms' are impeccably timed to perfection. The fact Arjun managed to stay in character is a testament to his acting ability. Shilpa Aunty's insincere innocent expressions and mannerisms pull the strings of my heart like under the command of a master puppeteer.

this scene is my fav too.shipa aunty was actually trying to give clue to his son abt his attraction towards nupur.which is obviously not accepted by maaynk

Maa, aap geeta mere liye parli ho, ya apne aap ke liye?

Beta, mein itne zor se parai hi ho, toh obviously tumarai liye parai hi ho!😆

Thanks but mein already parla ha ho.

Jo tum roz karte ho...lekin mujhe geeta zada interesting lagi, is liye maine socha ke mein tume bhi suna thi ho.

Waise, ab tak jo maine parra tune suna ke nahin?

Jab aap kuch bolti ho, nahin suney ka option hai? l😆love his expressions there

That's great! - can't resist that nose nudge!yeah! she coudn't resist .nose nudging thing is like a common habit for three of them,mayank,nupur & shilpa aunty😆

Ab mein shlok ka mathlab samjati ho. {My hindi & Sanskrit understanding is shamefully terrible, so my attempted translation of the next part will be appalling if not unintentionally offensive. IF someone could help me then I can edit (with credit)}EDIT (Credit to my translator, the very talented and ever so helpful 'JESS'!

Jab kissi Manushka dhyyan kissi vastu ke tara jaata hai...

When a unique, strong, independent person goes intently towards some object

toh uska mann use ke liye akarshit;

Jess "when you notice a beautiful unique object, your mind gets attracted towards that object... out of curiosity, out of mere attraction."

Aur us aakarshan se paida hoti hai Ichha aur Ichha se Krodh, Eersha.

Jess "Attraction fuels strongs desires... and strong desires can lead to anger, grudge, jealousy..."

(The kindling of Mayank's fervent indignation exquisitely animated by Arjun!)

kya samje?

aap ko kya lagta hai? nupur se mein krodhit ho? mujhe vo acchi lagti hai, aur muhje uski taraf KYA mehsuus hota hai? aakarsha?

Jess "She was trying to tell him indirectly that he is attracted to her... but he is miunderstanding that attraction and instead leading to anger, hatred and jeallousy against Nupur..."

Are bhai, isme Nupur kahan se aagaye?😆 mein toh geeta ke baat karaye thi!so innocent shipa aunty!!!!😳

KYA?!

Shilpa Aunty uses the 'bazooka' in the parent's arsenal. No child can argue with the words of God! She has chosen the best verse to channel the fire towards a positive end. yap, she choose the best way this time to make him realize...all mom has this tendency of talking the help of God's verse to make their point clear to their kids na!!!!Its the ultimate!!!!!

Fighting fires on two fronts with one water 'sprinkler' system.

As subtle as a changes in summer's breezes, for you don't notice the varying directions it comes from, only that it comes; she uses water to abate the inflamed vim of both Mayank and Nupur; she understands the fruitlessness of wicks that burn through before all the aromatic wax has had time to fragrantly melt.

sabah! this time na! i m not getting any new insight as this fire fighting is like universal truth for moms & their ways r undoubtedly the best to deal with ! Shilpa aunty is again manage both way without supporting any one in particular!!!! Only moms can do that magical thing!!!!!!!


hey sabah! I replied in red .😃.......post step 8 soon!!!!!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
Heeyyy sabah...finally I get time to unreserve this postt....
how u been??

Well...I loved your step...It was greatttt, and so easy to understand....Mayu and Shilpa Aunty are the besttt!!!! I love them even more now....srsllyyy, she is one of the most understanding mom in the world....By God, she's too good...and we're too fond of her...heheh

Nicely said, I mean everyting abot theire relationship...

keep it upp👏

Luv, Meeno



Edited by tehmina3 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
Hey Sabah..
I don't have much to say except for the fact that i am so going to make my mother read the step 7 analysis..
Take care..
Akansha
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Mou.


hey sabah! I replied in red .😃.......post step 8 soon!!!!!!!You post part four first!!!!😃

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Posted: 15 years ago
The guide's very useful Sabah....
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Posted: 15 years ago


Hey Sabah,

I was very down on that day, especially when I read something so beautiful i just couldn't help but feel that way. But you know what Sabah I realised amidst all this that there are very few people who are there for us when we are all down and sad. I am so glad to have such gems here.😳

Sabah that was so sweet of you, but planting for this rainbow as well,the work has to be done by me na. Its just like Shilpa aunty and Mayank's relationship, i just need your inspiration and support, the rest I have to do on my own.

Sabah but coming to think of it, I don't want to do this alone, its all banal and not fun, it would be the best thing to do it together😳. I don't know how though Sabah.

That was so well said, yes we need not waste our time in thinking what happened in the past, just learn from it and yes think on how to deal with it. I have always lovedddddd the way it was shown how strongly M and his mum dealt with their problems.😃

Oh gosh I have never heard about Alison Lapper, why is it that we all are made to suffer so much Sabah, I know you have told me the answer so many times but still this question keeps on coming to my mind. Its stuck like a chewing gum😆.

But you know Sabah there is one thing i have learnt is how we look at certain events, we can look at how much and what we lost when it happened and how much we gained.

I guess we usually end up just looking at the negative side and what we lost more. It would be hard to change this habit.

Well rounded, awwww that was soooo sweet of you Sabah.😳

Aww a new day dawns upon me when i have such amazinggggggg friends here, you never push me away but openly welcome me.

i am so sowie, i always take this thread on a tangent where it shouldn't be na, as it is about Mayank and his mum, i would try and stick to the topic jee, can't promise 😆, but would certainly try yet again, i always say this and end up doing otherwise.

Much love,

Senny.
Edited by Senny - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
Hey Sabah,

I was reading everyones' replies here. It felt so amazing, i don't know I just didn't feel like writing but just wanted to continue reading.


Teju that was very well written. Sabah she is totally right, I am sure you would like the current track on MN, it is so simple and yet so special. It is something which is certainly inspiring, touching and unique in its own way. Divz I would love to read what you have to say.

Aww Jess thats so true, i agree his mum is the main reason why he has mellowed down towards N, but I miss the sarcy M, that was what defined him for me. This was one characteristic which was with everyone, N, S, the gang and even his Mum. Especially with his mum and N, this part of M was quite apparent. He was sarcastic with CJ as well but in a very different sense.

Coming to step 8,anger management, whew thats something really important. I don't know but I always felt that M is a little short tempered which i found quite normal and realistic. I thought possibly we might get to see this side and how N would calm him down just like his mum does.

No matter how much I try and see N and mum as different, I always feel there is this strong connection between them. N and mum are very similar nature wise thus I felt that we might get to see such scenes for MN, alas up till now we haven't but I still can't stop hoping for that Sabah,

Wow the two solution you have shared with us Sabah are spot on. I find anger as an evil 😡(see the red logo is scary itself ). Anger for many people may be justified at times but I guess it would still be an evil in my opinion as in anger we end up saying things we don't mean and later on we have nothing to do but regret.😭 Its not always possible to correct our mistakes. Thus as prevention is better than cure. Its better not to be angry and calmly resolve matters. But some people by nature do, the best solution for this would be the best possible way to deal with it as you pointed out for us Sabah.

Fighting fire with fire and fire with water, is what we may have heard generally but Sabah, the way you have described these scenes, it is one of the best ways of showing how to apply this solution/principle in reality. I have always been amazed to see how Mayank's mum so easily changes his mood.😃

I really didn't get that hindi part in the show, thank you Sabah that was very well explained there. I do get it know, I read in Reader's Digest, the Asian version, there was a quote about the opposite of love, its not hate it is indifference.

Thus when MN fought over the project thing, they claimed to hate each other, possibly they did, at least for the initial days but hating somebody so much means that you still care. Thus MN even in the peak days of their fight still cared and bothered about each other, even if it was just thinking about each other and getting all angry and upset.

Sabah I tried to be in line, you had put down everything so beautifully, i just came to share something i felt. I hope i haven't digressed so much Sabah.

God bless you always and always.

Senny.

Edited by Senny - 15 years ago

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