YES SOMEONE ELSE WHO GETS LOVE LANGUAGES. +1000 to that.
What is this love languages???? Tell me tell me I wanna know Fria.
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YES SOMEONE ELSE WHO GETS LOVE LANGUAGES. +1000 to that.
What is this love languages???? Tell me tell me I wanna know Fria.
Originally posted by: euphoric
Thanks for asking right questions and raising right issues... I don't agree a bit with your perspective but the concerns and outlook concerning with the issues you have raised, definitely, needs to be reassessed.
1. Suicide... For the longest time, I thought suicide is for people who are weak and I was foolish. It takes guts to give up and such people needs immediate help. You think it was emotional manipulation... In two episodes, we have seen two suicide accounts... one fake that of Esha's and one Raghav's! What Esha does is emotional manipulation what Raghav is resorting to is an expression of self-loathin, worthlessness and condemnation.
Thank you for bringing up this sensitive topic of suicide which has been taken very lightly as a joke, manipulation, attention seeking, cry baby kind of attitude. You also explained the feelings of a person who want to end their life for whatever reason in very simple 3 words - self-loath, worthlessness, condemnation. Ultimately the common feelings are of 'I don't deserve to live' or 'I don't want to live anymore because I have nothing in my life to live for'.
It's very hard for most people to understand the immense emotional pain one feels to want to take this drastic step of ending their life. I personally new 2 people who committed suicide. I have also known of some people who committed suicide.
It's easy for people to not to take this seriously or make judgements and say things like cowards way out, or being a weak person. But it's very hard for most to understand why.
2. Who deserves what... My question is who are you and I to decide what Pallavi deserves or what Raghav deserves. I remember during Mandar track when Pallavi forgot Raghav's award function, was ready to feed Mandar food on family's insistence... people directed guns at Pallavi saying oh she's emotionally cheating on Raghav and let her go back to Mandar once. And now when Raghav was emotionally manipulated the same the guns are directed on Raghav. Is this how relationship works? No! Men are emotionally challenged and do not know how to handle emotional situations. Raghav never leaned towards Esha... he was made to believe that he was a consensual partner with onslaught of sob story. Pallavi and Raghav both have made their share of mistakes... undoubtedly Raghav's mistakes are way more than Pallavi's but relationships are not books of accounts. There is no balance sheets keeping a record of profit and loss. And if that seeps in relationships are mere obligations.
Raghav has made more than his share of mistakes... he needs to repent, he needs to rise and be the man worthy enough for Pallavi.
3. Men who have stayed alone for a good part of their lives, do face issues in domestication. Not because, they don't want to... but because they don't know how to. Overnight things don't change. Albeit Pallavi has always held his best intentions while asking him to quit alcohol. But we know there are rehab centres for addicts and medication is needed. Raghav has emotionally relied on alcohol for years at a stretch. Relapse happens in so many cases and when you are emotionally vulnerable, it is all the more easy. With Esha in that closed room too, it was the same thing. Yes, he shouldn't have indulged in drinks with her but it was a case of bad judgment. Just like Pallavi didn't pay heed to Raghav's speculations of Mandar, Raghav let his guards down too. Procrastination doesn't call for execution btw.
4. I agree Raghav made error on error as he shunned Pallavi and made her feel less. But I don't think I would have accepted it if he had succumbed to Pallavi's seduction when he felt dirty himself. He did try to tell her but he failed and then he had resolved to tell her but she heard it. There are men like Mandar and then there are men like Raghav. Mandar who was pure evil yet kept a garb and Raghav who professes a devil in making yet is so aware of his wrongs and is capable of redemption. He feels guilt like none other. And only one who knows to acknowledge the wrong they do, can work to correct them.
And as far as the toxicity of the relationship is concerned, this relationship is a journey of both of their liberation. Pallavi was liberated from the abyss of her past, she emerged as a winged bird soaring heights with confidence while Raghav is to be liberated from the shackles that hold his soul. This is no toxic.
If Raghav was stupid to hand himself over to police to get her justice for Mandar's accident... what was Pallavi when she wanted to let Sulo go scot-free in the earlier case related to Keerti and VD? Raghav's ONS declaration in front of 20 people and Pallavi calling police to RR mansion without once taking Amma in confidence... both were wrong handling of situations.
They are both beautiful because they are flawed. I am glad they are both not idealistic!
Raghav could have used his don tactics and forced her to be with him. He could have twisted her circumstances again if he wished to after all if he could do it to marry her why not now. But he's not doing any of those, instead he's burning to earn her forgiveness. That itself is a proof that he is a changed man. He's still reforming, recasting of iron takes time. And this is the same man, who gave her space post marriage to showcase her talent, who gave her space to build her career, who gave her space to help her ex-husband, who gave her space to dictate the dynamics of their relationship. I fail to remember one instance when the changed Raghav has tried to twist her to do his bidding. If at all, she was the fire to his fuel!
And I am sure, had he been complacent in his approach and let her have her "space" we would have called him out for being uncaring towards her predicament.
5. What do you think will make Pallavi happy? To continue to believe and live with the fact that she was cheated? Be the same old dead Pallavi Deshmukh who made no heed to herself? Be a stone herself by killing everything thats left inside her? Sorry... she's numbing to her physical pain too and will soon be a living corpse at this rate. She would rather be happy when she knows that Raghav didn't cheat on her and everything isn't lost for her. Yes, she should not take him on face value anymore but at the same point of time, she deserves to know the truth of that night before she takes a call for herself. She must know she's loved so that she's not lost in the abyss she's pushing herself into.
And no I don't believe in happy endings. If its a journey you evolve through it. They are humans and they will make mistakes. But sustenance of togetherness is to fight the battle along with the other and not to keep feeling the long burnt pyre of old wounds between each other!
Love and most certainly agree with the above 💜
You understand n express feelings and emotions so wonderfully in your writing. You have explained in words pretty much everything that I feel about the above two mentioned people, their current situation and life 👍💜
Originally posted by: Ruhi.007
She definitely fell in love after he rectified her mistake. Looks like she will continue to fall more in love with him as he continues to do so.
Pallavi's efforts to "improve" lives around her stems from her need to be needed*. Raghav gives her that. His needing her and his emotional dependency on her is what seals the attraction for him as love.
In that they are very compatible and will have a happy ending.
* Ignore if you do not believe in love languages. Imo her love language is acts of deed and she relishes relationships where she is needed. Everybody does but this trait is a bit more in Pallavi. I found no other way to understand her attachment to Ds and disengagement with her own brother.
P. S: Raghav has not cheated and yes the situation is dicey. This debate has been done to death in the forum, there is nothing new I can add and bored of that thread long back 🤷♂️.
@bold- Yes he never cheated. He only gash lighted. That's why he is still keeping Esha at home. Of course, he showers his mercies. Great act.
Originally posted by: Ruhi.007
She definitely fell in love after he rectified her mistake. Looks like she will continue to fall more in love with him as he continues to do so.
Pallavi's efforts to "improve" lives around her stems from her need to be needed*. Raghav gives her that. His needing her and his emotional dependency on her is what seals the attraction for him as love.
In that they are very compatible and will have a happy ending.
* Ignore if you do not believe in love languages. Imo her love language is acts of deed and she relishes relationships where she is needed. Everybody does but this trait is a bit more in Pallavi. I found no other way to understand her attachment to Ds and disengagement with her own brother.
P. S: Raghav has not cheated and yes the situation is dicey. This debate has been done to death in the forum, there is nothing new I can add and bored of that thread long back 🤷♂️.
@bold again- She needed to be needed in the need of respect and in the need of trust. Which Raghav gave her obviously that's why he is choosing to walk on burning charcoal to gain her trust!
Since when did attachment become love? If he is attached to her, he needs therapy. Attachment is toxic behana, I feel sad for those who get attached.
Originally posted by: euphoric
Since, we have a pattern of repeating ourselves on loop here... I will say what I have said earlier, once again... Sins, Crimes and Mistakes are three different things.
Man's intentions defines their character. And as per the law, of any country, a suspect is sentenced based on the gravity of the crime based on the intention. Accidents and Homicides have different meanings and different judgments.
And as for deserving is concerned... I was clear that Pallavi needs to decide what she deserves and if anything she deserves to be happy... whatever that happiness be... its for her to decide and not be judged for it!
Raghav drinking with Esha in the hotel room is a moment of weakness towards his alcohol addiction and emotional upheaval of closure but suicide is no moment of weakness. It takes courage and it is medically and psychologically proven.
Many people around us are emotionally vulnerable just that the degree varies and I am sorry, I believe to support and not shun because empathy is what they seek.
What to say? He is pious! Such a lovely lad! Rghav is the definition of purity. He's walking on burning charcoal only and only for Pallavi. But......with Esha at home.
#LoveLanguage
Originally posted by: joliefemme
Life isn't a bed of roses, you'll find more challenges and pain than happiness but with the support of a loving partner, life can be beautiful. If Raghav is repenting, he deserves a chance. Abhi if Pallavi believes in him and his love and his penance, she'll have it in her to accept him back.
We are heading for a happy ending and this show has literally validated all our feelings for these characters and what they think. I'm happy to have been proven right in assessing Raghvi.
I wish life was bed of roses. What can I do? My heart is breaking. 🥺
Originally posted by: Wilddreams
Abi he was begging Amma to reform him in today's episode so 🤷♀️
And he acknowledged Pallavi ka Sudharna as a good thing in his life. He wants to be Pallavi ka Raghav...Amma ka Raghav 😒
Ab Raghav ko bhi daanto for accepting her sudharna as a boon
@bold- Aww so sad. But I want Raghav to meet a therapist, open the door from Pallavi's life and walk away all by himself. 😳
@bold again- She needed to be needed in the need of respect and in the need of trust. Which Raghav gave her obviously that's why he is choosing to walk on burning charcoal to gain her trust!
Since when did attachment become love? If he is attached to her, he needs therapy. Attachment is toxic behana, I feel sad for those who get attached.
Huh? Attachment is toxic but cannot be live ? Ok 😂
Lack of self respect is attachment.
@bold again- She needed to be needed in the need of respect and in the need of trust. Which Raghav gave her obviously that's why he is choosing to walk on burning charcoal to gain her trust!
Since when did attachment become love? If he is attached to her, he needs therapy. Attachment is toxic behana, I feel sad for those who get attached.
I know right!!!
You can get attached even to a non living thing but it's not necessary to love it 😂😂
If someone gets attached to the idea of someone living around them and breathing, buddy run 😂😂 it's Netflix ka YOU Season 4 for you now 😂😂.
Attachment toh aapko alcohol aur drugs se bhi hota hai and that is toxic. Didi usko pyaar nhin bol skte 😂😂