The misogynistic dislike for Pallavi - Page 4

Giving my 2 cents here.

Pallavi wasn't much wrong per say. She pulled a prank on Raghav. She wasn't aware of consequences. So Pallavi's character doesn't deserve the bashing.

Secondly, on this site, I didn't came across any negative comment about Pallavi. There may be bashing/negativity on other sites like Twitter but many of this forum members (including me) aren't active there. Hence discussing negativity of those sites in this forum doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

I agree with slaps and all.. dont want that but Pallavi never investigates? ..sorry Mihika but when has Raghav investigated? The two big MUs he had, one Anjali MMS case and then Keerthi, both times he jumped to conclusions and literally wrecked havoc in her life. Compare that to mirchi..it was silly and for Raghav its lifethreatening but fact remains she was unaware of his allergies and now when she will know she will obviously repent and do whatever she can to ease his pain..

Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

Raghav gets a loads of free pass, because woh toh aisa hi hai. Personally more than the paisa throwing part and izzat uchhalna part on her, I found his offering money and deal part for marriage so insulting, because that wasn't something out of anger or revenge, it was how his character was, and it got free pass because woh toh aisa hi hai... Not to forget when he got her to sign the papers for shop...All of these can make you hate that person for life, because it's manipulation preying on your weaknesses, how easily can one trust that person? So I get it when Pallu is sceptical about his intentions... And chilli powder was just a silly prank gone wrong, nothing more... I was amused by her reaction to it, it's a progress from before.. This time she even thought Raghav would eat it, if she served it with sweetness, that itself is a progress. 😆😆

I like how Raghav Rao as a character is written, and the same cannot be said for Pallavi.. I loved her when used to be spunky, and so dedicated towards her saree shop and being the anchor of the family. But then came the abortion track, and then came the absurdity. Then they threw her out and then came the forceful marriage. 🤣🤣

Who can relate to such things? 🤣

There are so many times when one lead gets blamed in a love story, because of poor writing and because of enormous expectations from characters. It's totally okay if the people are not on same page in a love story. It's okay if one's love is more passionate than the other. Characters are characters, not wish fulfilling fairies.. If Pallavi is blind in her family love, that is what it is... You cannot do anything about that. It's an imperfect show with non relatable characters..Raghav was estranged by his own blood family for years, but in the end the family remains family... The same goes for deshmukhs.. Vijay wouldn't have been so hurt or so angry, if Pallavi was nobody to him... He is a toxic character, but he can have his own shades.. He gave his saree shop as a gift to Pallavi, even though in ego, he wouldn't have done that if she was nobody to him. He wouldn't have stopped talking about how Pallavi is, if she was nothing to him. And his mistakes are out there, as mistakes. There is no justification for them, period.

But relationships are complex and much beyond 'they-don't-deserve-her' and he-doesn't-deserve-her.. It's not about algorithm of who deserves whom, it's about your attachment to people. What's the point of life if you don't have people to share the joy of achievements with? You can't be too dependent on them, you need to have self respect, in that aspect Pallu is ready to sideline herself, because she puts relations before herself, I get that. However in today's age, such characters are hard to relate to, because you do get angry at people, you taunt them sometimes, you complain to them sometimes...Pallu hardly does any of that, to her in-laws.. Because she has made them sort of godly... Because they gave her something she craved for. She needs to understand that even parental relationships need understanding, trust and friendship, not just blind obedience and respect. If Vijay was like a father to her, he would have thought about her for a moment at least, why is she not disappointed in him? Why doesn't she expect anything from him? That's where her problem as a character lies, she doesn't have any bad feelings, even of small magnitudes towards deshmukhs... How is that possible? How can she not confront her own family members about the lack of trust, attachment from their side? How can she not ask them why they have given Sulo and Amrutha free pass in their home? But then, that would mean giving time to Pallavi as a character, which CVs are not able to. Right now she is just the female part in a love story, nothing more... Man why do I get so serious about characters ?🤣

Pallu as a character was always meant to be criticised with the labels like doormat, typical ITV FL and all.. It's part of the package for such characters.

It's just a show. People should just chill and enjoy the ride. Even I don't like Pallu when she goes on her idealism spree.. I would have loved her to not give a shit about the Raos or Deshmukhs and just get the f*** out of there.. 🤣🤣

I would have lodged a police complaint or made a media scandal out of the marriage if I was her.. Or rather I would have demanded compensation for ruining my life.. But she just put it mildly.. Because she is not me.. 😆 Chill hai bandi, second chance bhi de diya, ghamandi Rao ko apna bhi liya subconsciously.. Aur kya chahiye?? Agar Deshmukhs ke liye self respect side ki hai, toh Raghav ke liye bhi ki hai... People don't see that. Because Raghav said he was sorry, doesn't mean what he broke in her comes back. He did break her inner self. I mean that was epic humiliation for her from all sides.. To give that person a chance in marriage is a big deal... People don't see that.

Chalo, end of the rant. 😆

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Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

Raghav gets a loads of free pass, because woh toh aisa hi hai. Personally more than the paisa throwing part and izzat uchhalna part on her, I found his offering money and deal part for marriage so insulting, because that wasn't something out of anger or revenge, it was how his character was, and it got free pass because woh toh aisa hi hai... Not to forget when he got her to sign the papers for shop...All of these can make you hate that person for life, because it's manipulation preying on your weaknesses, how easily can one trust that person? So I get it when Pallu is sceptical about his intentions... And chilli powder was just a silly prank gone wrong, nothing more... I was amused by her reaction to it, it's a progress from before.. This time she even thought Raghav would eat it, if she served it with sweetness, that itself is a progress. 😆😆

I like how Raghav Rao as a character is written, and the same cannot be said for Pallavi.. I loved her when used to be spunky, and so dedicated towards her saree shop and being the anchor of the family. But then came the abortion track, and then came the absurdity. Then they threw her out and then came the forceful marriage. 🤣🤣

Who can relate to such things? 🤣

There are so many times when one lead gets blamed in a love story, because of poor writing and because of enormous expectations from characters. It's totally okay if the people are not on same page in a love story. It's okay if one's love is more passionate than the other. Characters are characters, not wish fulfilling fairies.. If Pallavi is blind in her family love, that is what it is... You cannot do anything about that. It's an imperfect show with non relatable characters..Raghav was estranged by his own blood family for years, but in the end the family remains family... The same goes for deshmukhs.. Vijay wouldn't have been so hurt or so angry, if Pallavi was nobody to him... He is a toxic character, but he can have his own shades.. He gave his saree shop as a gift to Pallavi, even though in ego, he wouldn't have done that if she was nobody to him. He wouldn't have stopped talking about how Pallavi is, if she was nothing to him. And his mistakes are out there, as mistakes. There is no justification for them, period.

But relationships are complex and much beyond 'they-don't-deserve-her' and he-doesn't-deserve-her.. It's not about algorithm of who deserves whom, it's about your attachment to people. What's the point of life if you don't have people to share the joy of achievements with? You can't be too dependent on them, you need to have self respect, in that aspect Pallu is ready to sideline herself, because she puts relations before herself, I get that. However in today's age, such characters are hard to relate to, because you do get angry at people, you taunt them sometimes, you complain to them sometimes...Pallu hardly does any of that, to her in-laws.. Because she has made them sort of godly... Because they gave her something she craved for. She needs to understand that even parental relationships need understanding, trust and friendship, not just blind obedience and respect. If Vijay was like a father to her, he would have thought about her for a moment at least, why is she not disappointed in him? Why doesn't she expect anything from him? That's where her problem as a character lies, she doesn't have any bad feelings, even of small magnitudes towards deshmukhs... How is that possible? How can she not confront her own family members about the lack of trust, attachment from their side? How can she not ask them why they have given Sulo and Amrutha free pass in their home? But then, that would mean giving time to Pallavi as a character, which CVs are not able to. Right now she is just the female part in a love story, nothing more... Man why do I get so serious about characters ?🤣

Pallu as a character was always meant to be criticised with the labels like doormat, typical ITV FL and all.. It's part of the package for such characters.

It's just a show. People should just chill and enjoy the ride. Even I don't like Pallu when she goes on her idealism spree.. I would have loved her to not give a shit about the Raos or Deshmukhs and just get the f*** out of there.. 🤣🤣

I would have lodged a police complaint or made a media scandal out of the marriage if I was her.. Or rather I would have demanded compensation for ruining my life.. But she just put it mildly.. Because she is not me.. 😆 Chill hai bandi, second chance bhi de diya, ghamandi Rao ko apna bhi liya subconsciously.. Aur kya chahiye?? Agar Deshmukhs ke liye self respect side ki hai, toh Raghav ke liye bhi ki hai... People don't see that. Because Raghav said he was sorry, doesn't mean what he broke in her comes back. He did break her inner self. I mean that was epic humiliation for her from all sides.. To give that person a chance in marriage is a big deal... People don't see that.

Chalo, end of the rant. 😆

Lol, so true . Her character is not realistic . Its our fault for expecting too much from an ITV show.

In reality no sane woman would involve herself with someone like Raghav in the first place lol. I would keep away from him challenge or no challenge 🤣

Originally posted by: Ahlaam5

I'm actually surprised at how everyone is crying for Raghav here and the extreme dislike I'm seeing for Pallavi from some people.

After everything Raghav pulled, everyone seems to have amnesia or selective memory loss. He literally made her homeless, yes the fault/blame lies with her father in law but don't tell me Raghav didn't know what the outcome of his performance would be in such society, blackmailed her into a marriage amongst a hundred other things and yet he's easily forgiven because he's hot💁🏽‍♀️

From what I can tell, a lot of the fanbase seem to be females and are willing to look the other way to all Raghav's faults.

But as soon as Pallavi unknowingly makes a mistake, the hatred/dislike for her is out of the stratosphere.

I keep seeing strong dislike for her after the chilli incident and people saying Amma should put her in her place.

After the stuff Raghav has pulled with her, why should she give him the benefit of the doubt, Raghav literally has given her no reason to trust him and has fallen to such low levels before.

Also any child would get revenge for their parents after what Raghav pulled with her in laws, now I'm no fan of physical abuse, neither of those two men (or the mother in law) are mature and seem to bring out the worst in each other.

I'm pretty sure Pallavi only heard half of the story and honestly it's in character for Raghav to pull such a stunt so why shouldn't she get revenge. If someone hit or tried to hit my parents, I would have hit them back or sent them to jail.

Ofcourse her in-laws don't deserve being called parents, that's a different matter and hopefully a part of Pallavi's growth as a character (if we're lucky), but at the end of the days Pallavi has always seen them as her own parents and because of her not having any other parental figures until Amma, she's unfortunately willing to overlook their conditional love for her because she's starved for a parents love.

Just because we all know Raghav is slowly trying to redeem himself doesn't mean he won't make countless of mistakes on the way and that doesn't mean Pallavi should have to overlook them instead of pointing it out just because he's trying.

Raghav initially was wrong in this whole debacle with the loan, he has no right to interfere in someone else's life. Let them make their mistake in their bullheadedness, he tried to stop them and when they refused to listen, he should have walked away instead of escalating it.

I love to see the slow development of these two flawed characters into becoming more understanding and less foolhardy but it's funny how much people rip into Pallavi for her flaws and for not seeing the good side of Raghav and how much people turn a blind eye to or easily forgive Raghav reckless and often rotten if not full on disgusting behaviour, and all this because he's very very hot.

Peak misogyny!

Ofcourse the more rational thing for Pallavi to do was ask for Raghav's side of the story and then talk it out instead of such petty revenge but he's lucky all he got was mirchi tbh.

I love both characters to be honest but I'm just tired of the blind worship for male leads.

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Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

Raghav gets a loads of free pass, because woh toh aisa hi hai. Personally more than the paisa throwing part and izzat uchhalna part on her, I found his offering money and deal part for marriage so insulting, because that wasn't something out of anger or revenge, it was how his character was, and it got free pass because woh toh aisa hi hai... Not to forget when he got her to sign the papers for shop...All of these can make you hate that person for life, because it's manipulation preying on your weaknesses, how easily can one trust that person? So I get it when Pallu is sceptical about his intentions... And chilli powder was just a silly prank gone wrong, nothing more... I was amused by her reaction to it, it's a progress from before.. This time she even thought Raghav would eat it, if she served it with sweetness, that itself is a progress. 😆😆

I like how Raghav Rao as a character is written, and the same cannot be said for Pallavi.. I loved her when used to be spunky, and so dedicated towards her saree shop and being the anchor of the family. But then came the abortion track, and then came the absurdity. Then they threw her out and then came the forceful marriage. 🤣🤣

Who can relate to such things? 🤣

There are so many times when one lead gets blamed in a love story, because of poor writing and because of enormous expectations from characters. It's totally okay if the people are not on same page in a love story. It's okay if one's love is more passionate than the other. Characters are characters, not wish fulfilling fairies.. If Pallavi is blind in her family love, that is what it is... You cannot do anything about that. It's an imperfect show with non relatable characters..Raghav was estranged by his own blood family for years, but in the end the family remains family... The same goes for deshmukhs.. Vijay wouldn't have been so hurt or so angry, if Pallavi was nobody to him... He is a toxic character, but he can have his own shades.. He gave his saree shop as a gift to Pallavi, even though in ego, he wouldn't have done that if she was nobody to him. He wouldn't have stopped talking about how Pallavi is, if she was nothing to him. And his mistakes are out there, as mistakes. There is no justification for them, period.

But relationships are complex and much beyond 'they-don't-deserve-her' and he-doesn't-deserve-her.. It's not about algorithm of who deserves whom, it's about your attachment to people. What's the point of life if you don't have people to share the joy of achievements with? You can't be too dependent on them, you need to have self respect, in that aspect Pallu is ready to sideline herself, because she puts relations before herself, I get that. However in today's age, such characters are hard to relate to, because you do get angry at people, you taunt them sometimes, you complain to them sometimes...Pallu hardly does any of that, to her in-laws.. Because she has made them sort of godly... Because they gave her something she craved for. She needs to understand that even parental relationships need understanding, trust and friendship, not just blind obedience and respect. If Vijay was like a father to her, he would have thought about her for a moment at least, why is she not disappointed in him? Why doesn't she expect anything from him? That's where her problem as a character lies, she doesn't have any bad feelings, even of small magnitudes towards deshmukhs... How is that possible? How can she not confront her own family members about the lack of trust, attachment from their side? How can she not ask them why they have given Sulo and Amrutha free pass in their home? But then, that would mean giving time to Pallavi as a character, which CVs are not able to. Right now she is just the female part in a love story, nothing more... Man why do I get so serious about characters ?🤣

Pallu as a character was always meant to be criticised with the labels like doormat, typical ITV FL and all.. It's part of the package for such characters.

It's just a show. People should just chill and enjoy the ride. Even I don't like Pallu when she goes on her idealism spree.. I would have loved her to not give a shit about the Raos or Deshmukhs and just get the f*** out of there.. 🤣🤣

I would have lodged a police complaint or made a media scandal out of the marriage if I was her.. Or rather I would have demanded compensation for ruining my life.. But she just put it mildly.. Because she is not me.. 😆 Chill hai bandi, second chance bhi de diya, ghamandi Rao ko apna bhi liya subconsciously.. Aur kya chahiye?? Agar Deshmukhs ke liye self respect side ki hai, toh Raghav ke liye bhi ki hai... People don't see that. Because Raghav said he was sorry, doesn't mean what he broke in her comes back. He did break her inner self. I mean that was epic humiliation for her from all sides.. To give that person a chance in marriage is a big deal... People don't see that.

Chalo, end of the rant. 😆

Originally posted by: Mihika

You are right that she would repent and ease his pain. But regarding the MUs and investigations. Those two were the biggest mistakes of Raghav which I for one cannot forgive easily if I had been in Pallavi's place. But remember the abortion track...Pallavi straightaway interpreted Raghav was at fault but Raghav went and investigated the matter even though he had no clue. I won't say Pallavi should have also done the same with Anjali MU because we can have infinite arguments on the difference availability of resources (money) and power for both of them. Remember the Kidpnapping MU Pallavi was saved by him but she ended up taking him as the culprit. Fine let's say it was all before wedding. But what after wedding. When she wanted to know the problem with her family she went and interrogated Raghav in the pool and also slipped into it but when her family accussed him for misbehaving with Rambo should she not go and ask him. Does this also require money and power? Ok before I could have agreed ... But given the things now I don't see any reason why Raghav would not say the truth about Amrutha had he been questioned. Rather just like he told about the tax problem he would have told this too but she did not ask him anything. The only times I remember her questioning him were after the defamation track and once BWA's truth about photographs came out. I am not justifying what Raghav has done wrong. But has Pallavi always been right. She trusts them blindly or better to say she trusted Amrutha only on half the story...why? Is she that blind to their wrong doings? I would Pallavi's line from that maardo episode "Ek baar to puch liya hota". I can bet if today Pallavi goes and asks for explanation on any of the MUs ... Raghav would readily give her.

Originally posted by: Mihika

I thought of giving a detailed reply but I am running short of time right now

Point no. One

1. This FD has no hatred for any character....we have fans for even BWA and Rambo....Pallavi to lead hai.

2. Both Pallavi and Raghav come to conclusion way too easily but there is one big difference between them....Raghav if trusts someone he would try investigating even though at the end he ended up talking to a bhoot and did that nonsense kaand

But Pallavi never tries investigating. She jumps to conclusion. However is a character, one should always try getting to the bottom of the problem. Which she doesn't do ... And this she will learn from Raghav only.

3. Kindly go through all the threads in this forum right from the beginning of the show before accusing the fanbase here to be biased.

4. Which fanbase doesn't have majority in girls? But here we have boys too but I won't expose the names here because privacy is everyone's right.

5. I am glad that we could discuss on this point as well.

6. For me I am a sadist for both. Both have committed equal number of mistakes and both need to go through redemption.

7. Saying so...chilli powder stunt is not that a serious issue but if it is life threatening then yes it is a big issue. But considération she was unaware of it.

8. Violence .... Oh please don't even get me started on it....Raghav is the Topper of Thappar exam (with/without fault).

PS: I won't come back to this thread. This will be my first and last post in this topic.

Abhi jaate hai meeting chal raha...was feeling sleepy to aa gaye😆

Oh BTW nice to have you here.

I apologize for quoting your post because you have said that you are not going to come back to this thread. I just wanted to respond to some points in general and I don’t expect a reply. Sorry once again.

I agree this FD has no hate for a particular character and there is no significant bias in majority of the member. There are some who heavily lean on a side but they exist in every fandom. However because of Raghav’s characterization or SKR or some other factor, I do feel like there is a slight bias towards Raghav. Take the huge difference in activity of ATs(this happens in a lot of other shows too. In this show I feel like the production team is at fault too because we have more insight to Raghav’s character, he got more screen space and back story)

I also disagree that Raghav is more trusting than Pallavi. Pallavi also trusts those that she think are trustworthy blindly. In fact that is one of her biggest character flaws as per the FD, her blind trust in the deshmukhs.

As to Raghav and his investigation, one inner monologue convinced him. I’m glad he gave it a thought but then he went ahead with his plan. And Raghav gave this benefit of doubt to a person who had saved his life twice, the first time when there was no reason to do so(the accident). I agree, Raghav has saved Pallavi too, but he did try to harm her a lot too(truck incident, taking over her shop, the whole defaming thing, married her forcefully)Naturally Pallavi would assume the worst. Very realistically, most people would not be very inclined to give this person benefit of the doubt. In fact, they would probably doubt his help as well.

They both have not committed an equal number of mistakes in my opinion. Pallavi was wrong only when she refused to let Raghav clear his name in the abortion fiasco. That too, she probably didn’t consider the harm she would be causing him and thought she was the only person who would be affected. Raghav on the other hand, has hurt her a lot more which I have mentioned with the intention to hurt.

Finally coming to violence, slaps are awful. I don’t like physical violence. But I believe Pallavi is greater of a victim. It may not be physical violence, but Pallavi has faced a lot more mental abuse. She felt like she way going to die, had her saree stock burn, was threatened on the highway(Pallu sweat incident), thought her shop was going to be run over. The entire day after the Anjali incident in fact. And finally was forced to marry a man she hated to save her brother from prison.

They makers have changed the character a bit now, but if we look at it from the start, I feel like Raghav has wronged her more and making it seem equal is unfair.

Note: I don’t hate Raghav’s character. If anything I love him. He was introduced as a don, or atleast an immensely powerful businessman who smuggles diamonds. But that being said, the point is also that he is/was a don, which is why I think painting him as an innocent baby isn’t right.

Edit: I typed out all this before reading other replies, so if I have repeated your point I apologize.

Pallavi has definitely made a mistake unknowingly--since she didn't know about Raghav's allergies --but the fact which confuses me is that even after putting a lot of chilli powder why didn't Raghav realise he was eating chilli food because the amt of powder went into it was a huge amount--and he could have stopped eating--he must have known about his allergy right.

I hear your pain TM. And this is not just this forum or show I have found that with many other shows , fandoms. People do ask for ML redemption, if and when it does come and he makes puppy eyes thats it, we expect the FL to forget all. I would say that the topic applies to many shows.

The thing is most Fandom consist of girls and women for the serials. Its natural that they show interest in ML, and once ML shows some sign of romance they cannot stay angry. Where as our FLs who tolerated a lot cannot drop it just like that.

It sometimes just scares me that we are look for romance in a forced marraige. Because in reality no girl or guy should be forced. But then 80% star plus shows are like this. Its sad truth that plain vanilla love stories don't work. And if ML is handsome and good actor then to forget it. !! The show is watched by girls of all age groups and everyone interprets this differently. I especially get scared when young girls romanticize bad behavior from male lead quoting his past life problems. Its never , never a girls responsibility to heal a guys past, or tolerate his bad behavior for that reason. Here Amma's insistence that RR marry Pallavi so she can improve him was one of the most intolerable thought processes to me.

In MHRW I am at glad at least the hero , if we should truly call him that , is trying to make up for mistakes taking a months time. This is a new for people because generally they don't even show that in other shows. Even his way of redemption is very high handed because he doesn't involve FL in his efforts with Ds, which he should. But just the fact that's he is trying has captured lot of hearts.

Personally for me , to accept thier marraige , they must remarry with FL choice. Thats why its important that Mandar come back, and Pallavi chooses whom to be with. Until then all his mein Pati hun dialogues don't hold water for me.

People say that Pallavi is treated better at Raos than at Deshmukhs.I don't think so at all. At Deshmuks she was their elder son , handling all the responsibilities. She had purpose in life. Working and shouldering ones own family does not make you a servant , it makes you a responsible child.

Here at Raos she is reduced to being RR's shadow, a big business mans wife. She has servants and no real responsibilities. RR helping her behind her back with clients also did not go down well with me..though many found it sweet on his part. Because now whatever she earns and becomes its with his help and thats not Independence really.. If she starts going out at night for office work like she did at Deshmuks won't the Raos rebuke her? I find the fire, sense of purpose in Pallavi gone after the marraige. Hope it comes back.

Its hilarious to me that people are blaming Pallavi on mirchi issue when it is Raghav who should have stopped eating that especially since he knows about his allergy.. Blind love for ML...😆

Dear TM, don't worry too much on this issue its there across the board for all shows.If majority audience is female , the sympathy is always towards ML.Also audience is conditioned by other star plus shows, FLs always being forgiving to ML. So the reactions. When tracks will change people's comments will change. And I found this forum pretty decent.