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Posted: 11 years ago

#101

I think the title is apt and final.

Not everyone needs to read Gita with Bhakti.

Gita itself is a text of profound philosophy which has inspired countless people, irrespective of their faith. So to bind it down to only devotion and bhakti, imo, is actually restricting and limiting its scope and deeper meanings to one point of view only.

Edited by LeadNitrate - 11 years ago

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Lumos

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Posted: 11 years ago

#102

mnx12,

thanks for the response...

quite frankly i do not agree with your contention but its ok...the Gita is the final authority...it says its devotion that leads to knowledge/understanding and not the other way around...the preface says the same..first step flawed and subsequent journey might turn wayward...this was simply want i grasped from the great epic that i put it here...found the heading flawed so pointed...maybe i didn't put it out here properly..don/t know...anyway dont wish it take this further...

BTW grt attempt in creating this beautiful oasis here... 👍🏼..i'm sure many(incl me) will benefit from this..!!!

humble thanks! 😊

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mnx12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#103

I read BG for the 1st time at the age of 13. There was no devotion. My friend told me it's worth reading, so did the same. Even after that, it was only from knowledge pov all the further readings happened. I like to collect BG in various sizes, that's a hobby. 😆. It's only Krishna, who makes one do what he wants. This forum, thread, everything is Krishna calling for me & I always like to do whatever he makes me do. There is a different connection. So my pov for BG is knowledge & understanding this Gem.

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Lumos

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Posted: 11 years ago

#104

Originally posted by: mnx12
I read BG for the 1st time at the age of 13. There was no devotion. My friend told me it's worth reading, so did the same. Even after that, it was only from knowledge pov all the further readings happened. I like to collect BG in various sizes, that's a hobby. 😆. It's only Krishna, who makes one do what he wants. This forum, thread, everything is Krishna calling for me & I always like to do whatever he makes me do. There is a different connection. So my pov for BG is knowledge & understanding this Gem.

@bold: this is nothing but devotion my friend, is it not?😊👍🏼...surrendering oneself and krishna ke leela mein maagn ho jaana ko hi Bhakti/devotion kehate hai! when we surrender our reins to him..when we follow him unquestionably...this is devotion, is it not? 😊.. if no, i would like to hear a ur definition of devotion.. ..

oh the shows started,,,seee\ yaaa

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amukta

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Posted: 11 years ago

#105

Lovely picture of Krishna. Meenakshi...draws your attention..their is so much kala in his face...I can't find a suitable English word for kala...you do get attracted and that is important.Sunder Shyam..kitne Dhilom ko churaya...ye boli Bali makan chor...😉😳..his smile as enchanting as his mystical powers.

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mnx12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#106

amukta, thanks. I liked this pic , specially with this paghadi. Reminded me of varities of shringars, vastars he is adorned with. Vishnuji is shringar priya, so is Krishna. But he is Yogi too at the same time. This teaches us how a life can be lived with a detached mind, fulfilling all the responsibalities.

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246851

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Posted: 11 years ago

#107

Originally posted by: Proud-India
My doubt

All are nashvant in this world then what's shashwat ??

What is My Astitva? Who am I? Who sent me Here ? For What To Do? Where Will I Go?

What is Life ?

Brahman is shaswat, the creation starts from it and ends in it. it is neither male, nor female, it is one and endless truth, It is us and it is not us.

However we do not realise what it is, we can talk millions and millions about it, that does not bring us any close to realisation. Hence krishna shows the way one can realise oneself through ways in Gita. Gita basically condenses all that is discussed in the Upanishads.

The rest portion is the questions that has been bugging human kind for centuries. No one can answer that. The answer has to be found by oneself. One seeks out Guru, who can show them the path through which one can follow to maybe get answers to the questions, but end of the day it is the quest of every human being.

Originally posted by: Proud-India
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My doubt - please anyone who knows Geeta Perfectly , tell me ...

Why only Human can Get Knowledge of God ?

Why not for animals , tress ?

Because They can not know about spirituality , life , God ...their life goal is only to eat , to enjoy etc...?!!

So They are also Souls , so can't they get Mukti in this birth ?

Also DOUBT 2 ?

Why God thought to make this world Universe? Why ?

PLEASE There is too questions in my mind, try to calm my mind by Geetaji Tell

Thanks

First of all no one can know the Gita perfectly, such demands are obsolete. Knowing the shlokas and memorizing them by heart is not knowing Gita perfectly.

So yeah the answers any one of us will give you is according to our understanding. For you, you need to seek out and understand yourself as well.

No, every organism gets knowledge of God. For some, due to their previous lives good work, the knowledge is more manifested and for some less.

Animals and plants and even rocks etc, in Hindu philosophy are all part of a cycle. Good karma elevates you to next higher level, bad karma descends you to lower level. if you delude yourself, then you descend as well. Rishi Bharata, had given everything away only to be deeply attached to his pet deer near his death. In his death, he did not think of God but of the deer, so he was born again as a deer. And he was born many lives as a deer. But his knowledge and karma stayed with him and he tried not to entwine in Moh Maha.

It is that humans are blessed with rationality, understanding. So humans are supposed to know and understand more about God by exchanging thoughts .

However does not mean all humans are equal. An enlighneted tiger may know more about a selfish person only interested in torturing others.

As humans too, you go through millions of life cycle, acquiring karma and resolving your karma. With better karma, you take higher birth. U use it to learn and feel and understand about God and yearn for him. Highest birth is a Brahmin( not the caste but the person who will discuss and think of God only). One should use this birth to discuss and read and understand and to come to love God. Then finally one is born as Yogin. Even after thousands of birth as Yogin, does one finally realises oneself and attain mokhsha.

However, according to thr Gospels of Sri Ramakrishna, Moksha is like a toy in hands of a child. If he wishes to, he can grant it to anyone in an instant , irrespective of karma, only their strong yearning for God.

Also the thought counts and not action.

Once two friends were going somewhere. one went to satsang and one went to party. the one at satsang, kept on thinking how much fun the other one was having and the one at party kept on thinking what good stuff the other one was hearing, he was hearing of God.

upon their death, the one who went to party was taken to Vishnulok. because, even when he was partying he was thinking of God.

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God thought to make universe to have fun. why? We don't know, but we came into being when God decided to multiply himself and have fun with himself and then delude himself with his own Maya. and our job is to pray to MahaMaya, to grant us the Shakti to understand ourselves and be one with God.

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mnx12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#108

@ Tani, well said. These questions have to explored practically. Understanding will differ from person to person. It's the practical realisation of these answers that takes one in the path of liberation. Ever one has to work out their relation with the Supreme power themselves.
With Mahamaya's grace only the real pic can be seen, visualised, understood.

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bheegi

@bheegi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#109

@leadnitrate...very well explained. Thanks for that wonderful write up above

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Srishti

@srishtisingh

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Posted: 11 years ago

#110

u know after visiting this thread I feel so ignorant and knowledgeless person! u guys are really much enlightened! I enjoy reading here since I have never read geeta.plz keep on sharing ur knowledge and understanding of geeta so that people like me too can learn something

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