Episode 210 Discussion: 4th March 2013

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Charu

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Posted: 12 years ago

#81

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya
Charu, I think he does care... From past experience, I can say that he does not like his family to be in the media glare and be a pawn to their sensationalism... He came out in the open and cleared the Malik issue, and he took care of the media during Pads-malik marriage when Kukku was telling that the people are talking lowly about their marriage...

As far as Madhu's image in the media is concerned, he tainted her as his laila... But soon after, he married her..thus her dignity and respect was restored in the public eye...
Similarly, he humiliated her in the party, the very next day she comes out of the studio in his arms, yet again witnessed by the public...
Everytime her image fell, it got resurrected thro' him only...
After the break-up, when she was hounded by the media, Madhu tackled it very maturely and in a dignified manner... He saw that and was satisfied...

I agree with you Zoya..i dun know how much he cares for his image..may be zero...but he was the one responsible for tarnishing her image & respect in the first place..be it the MMS or 4 phera shadi (he made his film crew a witness to that and didn't take 7 phere , that says it all) ..after Malik incident, automatically everyone started respecting her but only as RK's wife...and recently, he blew it up by humiliating her in the chawl n didn't he say "6 mahine dekha, pasand nahi aaya" something something..🤢 this is what Madhu has to prove it to him & the society that as an individual, she will restore her dignity and self respect away from RK's shadow...and i hope CV's do that...a positive message which should come out of this track...

he may not sit quietly if he knows about this incident but what's the use? his action will be too little too late...she's a mamooli ladki working on his film set..he will come out of his BMW and do his superstar show off, stay in luxury 5 stars while she has to travel with ordinary people in buses & live in tents...i'll be happy if he punished that guy but it will anger MAdhu more...i think so...

"Coming to ego,

Madhu splashed water on his face and rejected him... His male ego would have been hit very badly..This is a man's thinking..."

I agree that this is a man's thinking..their ego is hurt..but it's not just the ego but they think that they have more POWER over women...this man yest. was asserting physical power , he thinks he can assault Madhu bec. she's a weaker sex..Bittuji asserted "RK power" when he got Malik beaten up, RK had money ,his status and his ego , he managed to band bajao Madhu n she turned completely helpless when he forced her to marry him...

i dun know it's in Madhu's capacity to tackle all these men but i liked it that she showed that man his place...these kind of people are encouraged otherwise..someone has to put a full stop, but then what's the smarter or smartest way to do it? it's debatable..

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Charu

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Posted: 12 years ago

#82

i forgot to mention, howcome nobody, Bittuji, Radha or Madhu herself never thought about "HOW she got drunk??? " 😕

@Zorica, awesome posters, like always 👏 the one with RK in pink shirt and black and white Madhu & RK were the best 🤗

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Ananya05

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Posted: 12 years ago

#83

Originally posted by: _charu_
i forgot to mention, howcome nobody, Bittuji, Radha or Madhu herself never thought about "HOW she got drunk??? " 😕

Madhu should try and figure out how she got drunk. She finds herself in the same house from which she was unceremoniously thrown out, sleeping beside a man who played a brutal prem game with her, yet no curiosity to dig to the root of this mess. 🤢

Another thing, I was absolutely put off when she heaved of relief after getting to know that RK is coming for outdoor shoot a day later. Why take the idiotic challenge then, if you are so apprehensive to face him everyday? This girl seriously needs to grow up.

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Charu

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Posted: 12 years ago

#84

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Women's rights...for cheating in marriages, one has recourse only through divorce/marriage courts. There is no law which will protect you for not being reciprocated in love and then being abandoned...but if Madhu is go to court, she still has the chance to be RK's wife until matter gets settled by court since RK will have to prove the grounds for his marriage annulment (the un-wedding).

If women were really worried about Madhu, all of them(in the forum) should have raised that Madhu should go to court...or may be as Madhu thinks...they are just seperated and not yet divorced. Still as many of us expressed, we are not clear what is their marital status now. Are they still married or divorced. One becomes EX only after divorce. The court doesn't grant divorce in a day. Even for mutual consent, a minimum period of 6 months is required.

Since...we don't want all of that, we are enjoying the drama as is...only today I am unable to believe that Madhu was not able to handle a creep or may be I just blew it up out of proportions and that Madhu may actually handle the guy tomorrow.

So I think I am done for the day on this debate then. 😆 Peace. I will wait and watch what Madhu does tomorrow.

completely agree Shri 👏 i'm as confused as anyone else regarding their marital status...Radhaji and Bittuji still address Madhu as RK's wife so may be that's why they thought that it's okay if he brought her home & spent a night with her ?😕🤢 frm now on, i'll assume that they WERE married and now they're separated and not yet divorced...

yes, Madhu may handle this guy today 👏

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pnars

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Posted: 12 years ago

#85

Wow! What a superb thread to sip my morning chai with..thank you guys for your unique perspectives on the epi and its ramifications.

My two cents on whether the relationship is/was abusive ... I don't think it was, not in the classic sense of the term, mainly because the entire thing was not an act on RK's part - even after the breakup, he has maintained his new relationship with his mom (and possibly with God). He has of course renewed his relationship with alcohol, but that is now a crutch to make him forget Madhu. She did change him for the better.

Think of the "unweds" scenes, as horrible as it was, it could have been so much worse - what if, god forbid, he had invited the media and the families and then ditched her???

It started off as controlling/borderline abusive, but changed into something beautiful (from her perspective) and something frightening (from his perspective). So it had to end, and end it did, painfully!

As for Madhu's fearlessness and/or lack of common sense, guys, where would we be if Madhu was fearful, full of common sense and the tact that marks most Indian women? If she had learnt to quietly go the other way and hide herself in a group, we would be left without a story in the first place, that's where!😊

She's flawed, and he's deeply flawed, and together they're giving us a heck of a story to break our heads over!!

@Shri, re: one of your posts many pages ago (where you've said that RK did factor in society's reaction to his dumping of Madhu, but didn't consider his response to society's reaction) - just 👏. I hadn't considered that layer, and thank you for making me think!

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#86

Originally posted by: pnars
She's flawed, and he's deeply flawed, and together they're giving us a heck of a story to break our heads over!!

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Angeena

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Posted: 12 years ago

#87

Originally posted by: pnars

As for Madhu's fearlessness and/or lack of common sense, guys, where would we be if Madhu was fearful, full of common sense and the tact that marks most Indian women? If she had learnt to quietly go the other way and hide herself in a group, we would be left without a story in the first place, that's where!😊

True if she wasn't fearless there would be no story.

It's just that growing up in a chawl where everyone in her family is working day-in day-out, where she herself is working, not to mention that when she was introduced she used a pepper spray on some guys who were chasing her. It is just a hole in the plot. She was aware enough to have pepper spray with her and yet not aware enough that should the spray get over then she'll be danger. There she walked alone in a dimly lit area, and all I could think was that I would have taken a longer route where there was some crowd.

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Charu

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Posted: 12 years ago

#88

Originally posted by: kodai

That's why the whole revenge was so successful, he did it by giving her so much love and made himself so precious to her.

👏 exactly !

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supercool3

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Posted: 12 years ago

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I couldn't help but compare the situation to this, but imagine the situation of when you're playing video games.

My brother and I, we are totally into video games. Especially, when playing competitive games it's always about who will win and we make it a point to rub it in each others' faces. Very rarely do we play a round where we both are on the same side. There are no feelings or emotions attached. We just see each other as equals and compete til we're tired of playing

When RK took his revenge, he stated that he was finishing the game that Madhu started right?

He said she was his equal. And from his side, he was just taking all required measures to win this game against Madhu. So what did he do? He brought her into his house - a controlled setting.

Just like how in the video game the setting is within the measurements of the TV, this game between RK and Madhu was also just within the area of his house.

RK played, and he feels he won as far as the competition went.

But this is where what was just a game transcends into the outer world

Now I love defeating my brother in video games and vice versa.

Say we were put in a real life situation where we are competing with each other. Initially, the two of us may have no qualms in competing.

But say after a while we start hurting each other, both physically and emotionally. At first we may seem passive about it, but sooner than later we both would be aware of the damage that's being done. How would my reaction be? How would my brother react? As far as the video game setting went, I had no issues with how the other person felt. But outside of that setting, I'm confounded by my sisterly feelings and emotions to him.

Now back to RK-Madhu, even post the break-up RK continues his game. Why? Because Madhu comes to work on the sets for his movie, and even accepts his 3-day challenge. I mean would he have continued otherwise? Probably not.

But now as they move forward from this point, RK's feelings towards Madhu are coming into the light. And in his inebriated state he admits that he's not happy with this revenge/game.

I guess if we saw whatever happened pre-revenge as a game, the whole break up drama makes sense. That meaning we cut out all feelings/emotions.

But now that it has stretched beyond the interiors of the RK mansion, and outside of his control as well, he's slowly starting to react to it. But his perspective of this only being a game (which can also mean his ego) refuses to let him accept it

And like you guys mentioned, RK probably did know the consequences but wasn't aware of what his own reaction would be.

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Charu

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Posted: 12 years ago

#90

Originally posted by: supercool3
I guess if we saw whatever happened pre-revenge as a game, the whole break up drama makes sense. That meaning we cut out all feelings/emotions.

But now that it has stretched beyond the interiors of the RK mansion, and outside of his control as well, he's slowly starting to react to it. But his perspective of this only being a game (which can also mean his ego) refuses to let him accept it

And like you guys mentioned, RK probably did know the consequences but wasn't aware of what his own reaction would be.

very right 👏 the only grudge is that he should have played a fair game..

agree with pnars 👏 Madhu changed him...the biggest proof is that he's not the same old RK...he reconciled with his mother...i said it long back that there is inherent goodness in him, which Madhu brought out in open...apart from all this, i'm satisfied that he never crossed his limit, as in, get physical with her..that much humanity remains in him..he targeted her emotions, he continues to do it post revenge but now, the collateral damage is visible to him..he keeps pushing her to the limit, till she breaks down 😆 i dun know what he gains out of it...physically, he was and is always caring towards her...for continue playing, she has to be fit and fine 😆 that's what he told her...jokes apart, i wud love to watch him beat that guy black and blue 😡

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