Episode 210 Discussion: 4th March 2013 - Page 7

Originally posted by: amrithas

PS: RK really cracked me up when he almost pinned Bittuji to the wall and questioned how come Madhu was in his room and what else happened! God, thats the heights, how is he supposed to know what RK does or does not do with his biwi in the bedroom!

I felt that the pace of today's episode was a bit rushed and was expecting a lit bit more from both RK and Madhu when it comes to realizing or atleast trying hard to analyze what had happened? Agreed that they both were seriously intoxicated and might not have a coherent memory of the events that had occured during the last night but still RK's behaviour of screaming at Bittuji/choking him and Madhu shrugging her shoulders and not showing too much concern over the last night to get ready to go to outdoor shoot was not something that I had expected. He woke up with a bad case of hangover all the while calling Madhu when her dupatta was covering his face and yet he questions every single person who tells him that he was the one who brought her to his room while he had shut them all up by saying that he is fully capable of taking care of his wife. I guess I have to accept that anxiety and confusion are some of the major effects of hangover from uncontrolled drinking the previous night. Clearly RK was anxious, restless and even to an extent nervous when he cornered Bittuji while asking him how did Madhu end up in his room and what were they doing in his room. When Bittuji swore on his mom and told him that he had nothing to do with Madhu ending up in his room, yet again RK's ego took the center stage only to make a conceited remark that even in his drunken state he would never make the mistake of bringing her back in his life.

Radha reprimanding him over his behaviour was pretty good but I did not like the taunt about him fearing to drink next time simply because in his drunken state he tends to reveal his insecurities and weakness to everyone which the superstar RK's ego cannot tolerate. What good it is going to do him? I understand that she was trying to make a point and get through to him but the above statement was not needed. She should have stopped at the point where she told him what he is thinking as the reason for his hatred, anger and pain is nothing but his love for Madhu and once he accepts it it will no longer be the cause of what he is going through right now.

Bittuji was trying everything in his disposal to get RK and Madhu back together but what he seems to have forgotten in the process is that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. He was explaining to RK about the previous night where he had seen RK and Madhu hugging each other and what ramifications it might have on Madhu and how people would react if they were to see them in a situation like that. He was talking about media and public caling RK's act of revenge as a hoax when to them it might seem like they have actually gotten back together. There were people around them at the sets who could very well hear what Bittuji was saying and might actually spin their own stories which may not have any impact on RK who does not care much about what people think about him but what about Madhu? She is still a normal girl from chawl who is just trying to get back on her feet after the huge drama that RK had created and the public humiliation that she had endured. I would have liked it if Bittuji had talked to him in private and explained his concern to him if that is what his real intention was as opposed to having this smile of victory that was plastered on his face supposedly over making him realize that he was indeed hugging her. Big deal! He had taken her to his room and tucked her in his bed and she was sleeping next to him. So why smile as if he had achieved something huge when it was basically nothing.

I did feel horrible for Madhu when that sick pervert in the set was trying to touch and feel her every opportunity he got. She did the best that she could by defending herself and getting away from him. But what she should have done is not go off on her own, instead should have complained about this guy to the assistant director atleast and then stayed in the viscinity of the rest of the crew. But, given the cirumstances and the events from the night before she is still very much dazed and to top it he called her "Chodi Hui". That must have been painful for her to digest and hence decided to stay away from the rest of the crowd. Madhu really needs to toughen up especially with the media and the rest of the public because at the end of the day they don't care that it is a girl's honor and integrity that they are playing with and instead would settle for cheap gossip. She cannot avoid being in the limelight despite being seperated from RK because there will always be that prying eyes of the society waiting to dish up something on their relationship. She already faced the media once and was pretty good in her response and should do the same with the perverts who have such cheap disgusting thoughts. RK is not directly responsible for this incident but he is the reason she is addressed by those shoddy, slandering terms. If it comes to his knowledge RK would never let that person live but the damage is already done and the 'prem game' he had played with her is now going to take a diastrous turn where it has already turned her and their relationship into a laughing stock. He has not given much thought about what Madhu's life would become once she is out in the real world and gets thrown to the wolves. Just as Madhu put it, she can no longer lock herself inside their house instead has to get out and face the real world and that is exactly what she is doing right now and in the process she will learn her lessons as to whom to trust and whom not to. She has had the worst heart break and the worst revenge extracted in her life and if she can deal with that she can deal head on with anything that comes on her way.

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

I agree with Charu.

Though I have to remind us that beautiful epithets like "chodi hui" [cast-off] are given only to strong women, who might have refused or rejected the advances of creeps like that man.

• The rejection deflates the creep's ego, so he inflates his ego by slandering or demeaning the women to make himself feel better than her.
• Sometimes, he also boosts his sagging ego/adrenaline rush by reminding himself that the women is weak (that's why could be cast-off) and so he can pump up courage into his blood and go for her.

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya

Well said Charu and Shri👍🏼

Coming to ego,

Madhu splashed water on his face and rejected him... His male ego would have been hit very badly...Madhu slapped Superstar RK 4 times in front of his whole cast and crew... For a superstar like him,if some girl comes and slaps him, you can only imagine how much his ego would have been hurt... He deserves it, is an altogether a different thing...

A girl just like that cannot go slapping a guy in public or handing a guy bangles...be it a superstar or mamooli... The repercussions would be very bad for the girl only... It is upto the girl to channelize her anger or frustration and use it discretely...

Why is it said that we women have something called woman instincts... You are supposed to use it... What would have happened if in his badla, RK would have gotten physical with her... the pain and hurt she is going thro' now would be ten-fold...

Malik in a fit of rage went to RK's shooting spot for defaming Madhu... In that assault with RK's body-guards and Bittuji, he sort of unclothed Bittuji's shirt, Bittuji's ego got hit so badly that he ordered the body-guards to beat him black and blue till the point of death but not let him die... Malik had to fight for his life.. What would have happened if RK had not come up with the marriage proposal for Madhu and bartered her for 40 lacs?

Malik attacked RK for destroying his daughter's life... Agree that would have been the major reason.. But being the stunt-man he is, don't you think his male-ego would have been hit?... His physical prowess, was his strength... Well we discussed a lot of this during the Malik attack in the previous edt's i guess... And remember Bittuji, the moment he comes to know that it was Malik who attacked RK, Bittuji's first reaction was, he went and apologised to Malik and told that it was not RK but it was I who ordered the men to beat you up... Bittuji thought it was Malik's ego...This is a man's thinking...

The 3 main men in this show have at some point all shown their ego...

Kukku and Sikky have been unexplored in this show... But don't you think that if Kukku gets a chance, he will do a chance pe dance... Sikky- they have made him comical but the way Dipzy treats him, one day if he also gets a chance, then kisi ka khair nahi..

Men will always be like this...Prolly they are made-up this way... Like it or not...We women have to accept it and behave accordingly.. Hum kitna bhi naari morche kyun na lagaa le, nothing can be done... It's a bitter truth...

An aside... We all know of the famous Salman-vivek Oberoi spat... Oberoi was such a promising actor(Road, Company,Saathiya, Yuva,etc) but what happened after he got into a r'ship with Ash... and then came that oh-so-famous press conf of Vivek against Sallu that ruined his entire career... Poor soul, he is still struggling to find a foot-hold in the industry...

Bottom line superstar se panga na lo... Mamooli ho ya khud ek star in the making ho..😆

Okay... I started off with sth but ended up with sth else.. Now i don't remember what i exactly wanted to tell

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Zoya,

Well written. I remember those ED's where we discussed Shamsher's ego.

@bold

you are so right at all those points. How can one ignore or not learn the basic tenets of life?!

I really don't get it why Madhu behaves like this. Honestly I too did not like Madhu splashing water on that creep's face. Even when I was in teens, I had better sense than Madhu. I don't understand why Madhu was looking so naive and had to splash water...unless she is really gutsy...like some of the women/young women I used to see in AP metro...those women could easily show their footwear. And why was Madhu wandering away into wilderness? You know, no matter how much she is guilty or she feels bad about that comment, the same woman's 6th instinct would have made her stay close to her group (herding instinct). Don't the lionesses also live in groups (called pride). Madhu is really acting very naive...that's why she needs to get realistic...fast...before Sultan or RK helps her out.

Thing is I cannot even defend Madhu now, because she displayed the idiocy of not being wordly wise, ignoring woman's 6th instincts in the way she tackled Mukund and RK. That image is going to stay forever in my mind until she learns to be something mature about handling those situations. To think of ...Madhu is so flawed in this regard that she doesn't even know what she lacks. Trishna may not have high morals like Madhu, but she like Padmini can survive from the predators of the world. That's such a saving grace for her. Atleast one will not worry every second that someting bad will happen to her. Atleast here Trishna fulfils the role of being Deedu. She has always rightly advised Madhu about RK...I really wonder how she knew. Does she know the working of an egoist mind ?

Don't know...today for Madhu...I felt very sad...as in the girl...didn't just grow up the right way. Period. She is far too crazy than she appears. She is headstrong and has grown up like a princess rather than an ordinary girl. Why she lacks the basic sense that every other girl has??. Juxtaposed to her, RK can never be seriously blamed...if this was going to be a social drama.

Hmmm...the prides, the vanities, the foibles and hypocrisies of mankind !!!

P.s: I am quoting everything as the entire conversation is so beautiful.

Originally posted by: Ananya05

Very well said Shri. Agree with every line.

The most important thing Madhu lacks to be worldly wise is FEAR. So far she has been shown way too crazy and fearless in her dealings with the outer world and especially the men. I believe most women fear such anti-social elements to certain extent and hence they have certain self-imposed restrictions in handling men around them. Unless you fear some thing, how will you learn to protect yourself from it?

I agree with Zoya. This is all about male ego and to deal with it, we women have to play defensive for our own well being. Attack is not the best policy to employ in such situations. IMO, fear in this regards is not cowardice. Fear combined with a woman instinct is her best weapon to survive in this society, where predators roam around unleashed.

Bottom-line: Madhu needs to learn how to FEAR and thus put a check on her actions.

P.S: Zoya, Charu beautiful write ups.

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

OMG!! Can this conversation get any more interesting. 😆

Ananya, word it 👍🏼

Originally posted by: Ananya05

Very well said Shri. Agree with every line.


Bottom-line: Madhu needs to learn how to FEAR and thus put a check on her actions.

P.S: Zoya, Charu beautiful write ups

OMG!! Can this conversation get any more interesting. 😆

Ananya, word it 👍🏼