Episode 169 Discussion: 14th Jan 2013 - Page 4

Originally posted by: Savz_uniqueblis

so all this for radha-rishab patch up as expected. madhu questioned n done some gyan too to rk , so tat he patch up with his mom . so all the patchup work over, madhu-trihna patch up,madhu patchup family, radha-rk patch up. so ballu patch up left with goli tat his biwi or some other whoeva gives it, ya he needs it in this old age, he needs rest 😆 in this process or after this rishbala ka patch up will also be over.
rishbala scene was nice, dialogues n all but somewhere the scene could ve been better ,don't know something is missing, it seemed like in parts,may be editing or the way it is shot but could ve been better the scene to connect more n bring the impact. somewhere connection is missing. rk is record breaker, he lost trust on humans by getting his heart broken many times by others, now getting his trust on humans back by breaking others hearts many times 😆

so this on madhu n rk condition now, they were asking their hearts

asking heart
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what is love?
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heart replied?
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dekh

apna kaam blood pump karna kai

syllabus k bahar k question mat puch 😆

Originally posted by: Munni_123

A very emotional episode with superb dialogs.

VD and DD are fantastic today.

Madhu showed RK how wrong is his thinking all the way from the beginning.

Sometimes we see the situation in our way and we form an opinion and we stick to that. It happens with people we love or we hate.

As Madhu said kamzor insaan galatiya karta hai. Rishabh became kamzor after his father's death and he did galatiya and he is running away from the reality all these years.

And he doesn't want to acknowledge he is weak and he knows that. Escapism.

madhu is heart broken today. First failure today for her.

I used to watch a pakistani drama 'Humsafar' . Great acting and great dialogs. I remembered that drama today.

FOr the dialogue writer 👏

Originally posted by: dramacrazy12

I tend to disagree... most women are pretty mature around that age and what I am talking about has very little to do with practicality and more with basic emotional maturity

I don't think it is character's fault per se , I just think that CVs have ignored some important issues in her case

1)You know that your husband has a past relationship with his SIL and had hurt him very badly. You know SIL in question is ready to throw you out at a moment's notice, play kitchen politics and has been trying to seduce your husband and drive a wedge in your relationship. She has a habit of walking in your sanctuary without a thought much to the displeasure of your husband. Do you feel an ounce of jealousy, righteous anger, hatred or displeasure...Nope...instead you ask your husband to be nice to her.

2)Your husband believes that his mother hurt him. You are aware that your FIL and BIL are not nice people and wastrels. Do you try to find the reason of your husband's angst and talk to him about it...nope you twist his arm into reconcilliation. Do you encourage your MIL to take strong steps to rebuild that bond and question her passivity all these years? Nope... you bask in the knowledge that you are going to do this for mother-son duo and forge ahead. You basically put the responsibility of entire fractured relationship on your husband alone.

3) You believe you are in love with RK...but wait a minute you thought you were in love with Mukund a few months ago. Do you ponder on difference in the feelings or which one felt more real and why? Nope you just skim through it all. RK asks you to walk away with him when you prompt him to confess his love but instead of giving him the expected answer, you are thinking about your promise to your MIL...unbelievable! It would have made more sense if she had hesitated because she felt that RK needs to heal before walking away from it all.

4)RK explains why he wants to give it all away, you are not sold on it but you agree since you love him. Do you even try to ask relevant questions and draw attention towards other options like does that mean I will never get to see my family again...how can that be okay? You hate the idea to losing love but you are ready to let my family suffer with the same? Will you be okay with your decision if something happens to your family? You love your work ...will you be okay away from it all?

Originally posted by: MarathiMulgi

I agree with you on SIL point. Usually a woman's intuition is right on in matters like this. She could have taken steps of her own to keep Dipali out of their life if she had chosen to. I will have to say CVs have either intentionally ignored or underdeveloped this fact or maybe hopefully it will be explained in future track somewhere.

About the rest of the 3 points that you raise are very much valid and make sense. These are my questions too, believe me. But you are asking her to think logically, do deep reflection on understanding her husband's past, gauge and weigh the long term implications of RK's decision to leave everything. You need more than basic emotional maturity to tackle this. You need mature, logical mind here to deal with this, to question this. That maturity has to come from somewhere. It could be either born with (naturally astute), or gained from real life experience (either your own or by learning from others) or learned from bookish methods (again based on experiences of other geniuses). These are heavy matters indeed. I do not believe she is capable of doing this yet. She is neither perceptive nor astute in that regard (or maybe she chooses not to be, I don't know).

I am not at all saying that all 21 year olds are immature (in fact age need not necessarily go hand in hand with maturity though it should). No, not necessarily but here we are only talking about Madhu as she is presented to us.

To tackle these 3 points, she needs to have an open, straight heart-to-heart talk with RK. Cooler heads need to prevail for that to even happen. Madhu has not completely understood RK the person she married, forget about understanding his past. She thinks she loves him, she thinks she is helping him deal with the poison inside him. She thought she loved Mukund. It is like you like your old toy until you see new one. Then you love the new toy. Who but an innocent child would think that. (I am not talking about iPads and iPhones here by the way. 😊 ). She may even be totally unaware of all the strong undercurrents that exists in Bhatia-Kundra family

Her belief that RK just saying Maa to Radha will make everything alright between RK and his mother itself shows the childishness in her thinking.

To see both sides of the coin is not easy and only a mature person is able to turn that coin and see the other side. For kids it is usually heads or tail.

I am happy that you disagree with my earlier post and please do give me feedback whenever you can. Sorry if I have gone off the tangent yet again. I don't claim to know any of these characters even superficially. I just enjoy these ramblings and reading all the excellent analysis you all post here.

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya

Re. RK-Radha patch-up and Madhu's involvement in it...

I agree with everyone's concern here regarding the RK-Bhatia dynamics. Infact, all these valid questions have been plaguing all of our minds since the day Madhu has involved herself in trying to bring the mother-son duo closer...

After a lot of ranting, discussing about all this in the previous EDT's , I can only try to provide some consolation based on the way Madhu has behaved in the past... All of it doesn't really answer the questions we all have, but atleast I have come to terms with Madhu's behavior...

And the fact is that Madhu is Madhu.. Madhu sets a goal and bluntly,obtusely starts achieving it without bothering to find the nitty-gritties or even understanding the delicacy, underlying emotions of the situation/task at hand...Shri has beautifully explained about Madhu in her subtleties of r'ships post...

Let us revisit the past...

She did it during the blackmailing with photograph incident too.. RK conceded to apologize rather than divulge info regarding the sentiments behind the photographs... When she came to know of it later, she was only filled with remorse... This truth and along with the studio night spent together, had changed her hatred to dislike for him.

She did it during the Bappa track.. Thankfully everything turned out well in the end... It was basically a one-sided human emotion involved. But even then, she managed to put his life in jeopardy, though inadvertantly, and she felt guilty... But ant bhala toh sab bhala..He patched up with God and all was well...And most importantly,at the end of this track, her feelings for him changed...

She is now doing the same with Radha too.. RK knows she is trying to patch him up with his mom...He has just told her that she got remarried when he wanted her the most and hence betrayal.. He refuses to divulge his pain for 17 years, the details of the Bhatias,etc and is conceding to patching up with his mom rather than divulge info... A day would surely come when she would understand and most impotantly feel the real extent of his pain his mother's remarriage has caused him and that day she would yet again be filled with remorse and guilt. RK would only rise in her eyes and her love for him would only increase...

And lastly,Madhu discovers something new about the man she loves with every situation and predicament she encounters and the result is always savory for both her and him, though the ride is bumpy...

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya

Re. RK-Radha patch-up and Madhu's involvement in it...

I agree with everyone's concern here regarding the RK-Bhatia dynamics. Infact, all these valid questions have been plaguing all of our minds since the day Madhu has involved herself in trying to bring the mother-son duo closer...

After a lot of ranting, discussing about all this in the previous EDT's , I can only try to provide some consolation based on the way Madhu has behaved in the past... All of it doesn't really answer the questions we all have, but atleast I have come to terms with Madhu's behavior...

And the fact is that Madhu is Madhu.. Madhu sets a goal and bluntly,obtusely starts achieving it without bothering to find the nitty-gritties or even understanding the delicacy, underlying emotions of the situation/task at hand...Shri has beautifully explained about Madhu in her subtleties of r'ships post...

Let us revisit the past...

She did it during the blackmailing with photograph incident too.. RK conceded to apologize rather than divulge info regarding the sentiments behind the photographs... When she came to know of it later, she was only filled with remorse... This truth and along with the studio night spent together, had changed her hatred to dislike for him.

She did it during the Bappa track.. Thankfully everything turned out well in the end... It was basically a one-sided human emotion involved. But even then, she managed to put his life in jeopardy, though inadvertantly, and she felt guilty... But ant bhala toh sab bhala..He patched up with God and all was well...And most importantly,at the end of this track, her feelings for him changed...

She is now doing the same with Radha too.. RK knows she is trying to patch him up with his mom...He has just told her that she got remarried when he wanted her the most and hence betrayal.. He refuses to divulge his pain for 17 years, the details of the Bhatias,etc and is conceding to patching up with his mom rather than divulge info... A day would surely come when she would understand and most impotantly feel the real extent of his pain his mother's remarriage has caused him and that day she would yet again be filled with remorse and guilt. RK would only rise in her eyes and her love for him would only increase...

And lastly,Madhu discovers something new about the man she loves with every situation and predicament she encounters and the result is always savory for both her and him, though the ride is bumpy...