Episode 169 Discussion: 14th Jan 2013 - Page 3

I missed a few episodes last week… so my views are based on what happened today!

Madhu's outburst was long overdue…. Walking away from everything wasn't the solution in the 1^st place. Someone had to knock sense into him and though not pleasant, Mr Rishab Kundra needed this. He had to face the demons of his past to make peace with his future. Madhu did an excellent job in making him see that his father was weakened by situation to give up on life and it was his father's mistake not RK's. However, I didn't like Radha being given a clean chit by making her decision to marry Bhatia look like the greatest sacrifice in the history of mankind.

I am glad that Madhu told him how difficult it is for her leave her family, leave her loved ones, her identity behind only to be with him. The knowledge that despite this RK was insecure about her love must have broken her. I hope that after this RK will come to his sense not because he needs to pacify his heartbroken wife… because what he wanted to do was not the way to lead a life… a life that has just begun.

It was Mohan Kundra's barsi? So is it supposed to be RK's bday? And why was there no puja in RK mansion? Why does Radha have to go to the temple stealthily for a puja?

The precap was awesome. More than the mother-son scene… I like the way both the actors emote. The scene holds importance for me only because it will relieve RK of his burden. Looking at him today and what he is set to lose if he carries the ghosts of his past with him, respective of it being his mistake or not…if making peace with his mother will help… then so be it. I just wish at least after this, Radha becomes the mother he has always wished for.

It was Drasti's day today… and VD didn't have lines but he was bang on with his expressions… conveying RK's state of mind, his helplessness and guilt.

I wonder what is in store for Madhubala now… Son-Mom have patched up, Ballu's track comes to an end with Padmini supposedly shooting him, RK is expected to drop the sanyaswala plan, or am I being wishful? So what remains is RK winning back Madhu, their marriage… after that???

Originally posted by: Munni_123

But then...the other side is human too and obviously something that we don't like...so what should we do now?????!! Pyaar karna chod de ? Should we stop loving after investing so much of ourselves.

Shri! agar chod de toh is it love? And according to Madhu when we love a person we love his strengths and weakness equally na. Then doesn't she know the weakness of RK?

Yes, she is aware of RK's weakness but she never truly understood it. She knew he was hurt and has trust issues but was not aware how deep they ran.Honestly I don't blame her ...she has to be in RK's shoes to understand his perspective. Despite being poor and anonymous ...she has led a much more charmed life than RK. On the other hand , the fact that she does not understand RK's perspective is the reason that she provides him a different perspective and allows him to battle his woes.There are time in life when too much understanding and sympathy can become crutch and it cripples people.

This was not an MU. This was a CMU - Clear MisUnderstanding.

Originally posted by: dramacrazy12

Yes, she is aware of RK's weakness but she never truly understood it. She knew he was hurt and has trust issues but was not aware how deep they ran.Honestly I don't blame her ...she has to be in RK's shoes to understand his perspective. Despite being poor and anonymous ...she has led a much more charmed life than RK. On the other hand , the fact that she does not understand RK's perspective is the reason that she provides him a different perspective and allows him to battle his woes.There are time in life when too much understanding and sympathy can become crutch and it cripples people.

When I was in high school, I battled with severe migraine attacks that took immense toll on me and my grades. I would crib about it all the the time and blame my falling grades and mood swings on it. One day my mom got really mad at me and told me it was high time I learn to live with it and stop using it as a crutch for all my failures. At that point, I was really hurt because in my mind she did not understand my pain and my challenge in dealing with it...however years later I realized that her tough love was what helped me to get back on track. If she had been sympathetic all the time and coddled me , I would have never made an effort to find a way to fight back.

I have mentioned this before... Madhu has been trying to fit everything in her perception of a perfect life. Everytime something does not fit, she lashes back or cries and there in lies her immaturity. What she feels for RK is deep affection, gratitude and attraction but not necessarily all encompassing love yet. When she hated him , she saw only his flaws...after Shamsher incident, she opened herself to him and focussed on his good , ignoring his flaws. While she had faith on the fact that RK would never hurt her on purpose and felt something for her, she never truly understood the man himself. If she did , she would not misunderstand when he suggested Shamini marraige. If this MU alone drives a deep wedge between them then I would say that they never loved each other. If RK needs to change his perspective and let go of his woes, Madhu too needs to develop some level of maturity and balance in relationship. I wish she would start with Dips and tell her off.

All I can say today is: Well done Madhu, well done.👏

Originally posted by: tanu07

However, I didn't like Radha being given a clean chit by making her decision to marry Bhatia look like the greatest sacrifice in the history of mankind.

I wonder what is in store for Madhubala now' Son-Mom have patched up, Ballu's track comes to an end with Padmini supposedly shooting him, RK is expected to drop the sanyaswala plan, or am I being wishful? So what remains is RK winning back Madhu, their marriage' after that???

I agree with you...this is the piece that irked me the most. Okay I will give Radha that she remarried to provide RK with a father figure. But here are my questions-

Random musings about Madhu's maturity. Just my thoughts.

In this serial, Madhu seems to be ~20-21 years old. A kid really. How much maturity can we expect from her in dealing with the complex person like RK? Her actions, reactions, thoughts, judgements do not stem from years of wisdom or life experience. Bacchi hai woh toh bachhi jaise hi samne ayegi na? So far her life is sheltered to a large extent. She has not faced trauma like her mother nor witnessed death of a loved one like RK.

Her khwaish is as simple as "Chalo kahan chale jahan tum le chalo". That's it. As other writers in this thread are saying, she definitely needs to mature in her thoughts and actions to give the balance needed for her relationship with RK.

Though I feel she is somehow forcing confessions out of RK. Love confession for her a while back and reconciliation with his mother now. In the first case, he had the choice to delay it but now he has brought it upon himself and he has no choice in the second case. There does not seem to be a single incident where the decision to do something (for others i.e.) has been taken amicably. High intense emotional drama in every situation. Aisa kaise chalega always? It can lead to resentment to either party.

Originally posted by: MarathiMulgi

Random musings about Madhu's maturity. Just my thoughts.

In this serial, Madhu seems to be ~20-21 years old. A kid really. How much maturity can we expect from her in dealing with the complex person like RK? Her actions, reactions, thoughts, judgements do not stem from years of wisdom or life experience. Bacchi hai woh toh bachhi jaise hi samne ayegi na? So far her life is sheltered to a large extent. She has not faced trauma like her mother nor witnessed death of a loved one like RK.

Her khwaish is as simple as "Chalo kahan chale jahan tun le chalo". That's it. As other writers in this thread are saying in this thread, she definitely needs to mature in her thoughts and actions to give the balance needed for her relationship with RK.

Though I feel she is somehow forcing confessions out of RK. Love confession for her a while back and reconciliation with his mother now. In the first case, he had the choice to delay it but now he has brought it upon himself and he has no choice in the second case. There does not seem to be a single incident where the decision to do something (for others i.e.) has been taken amicably. High intense emotional drama in every situation. Aisa kaise chalega always? It can lead to resentment to either or both parties.

I tend to disagree... most women are pretty mature around that age and what I am talking about has very little to do with practicality and more with basic emotional maturity

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

2) Second thing...Drinking now when driving that mad did not make sense at all. RK was so disturbed, he was in a state to just drive and not take a bottle to drink to forget...he needed to think...that part was wrongly portrayed. Even drunkards know when they have to drink... !!!!

The obvious clunk had to be there that it has to be Mohan Kundra's death anniversary and perhaps RK also gets to go to same temple. Or am I thinking wrong.

Shri,

@red: I don't think its the case that RK also goes to the same temple for his dad's death anniversary. I think RK must have got to know his mother's whereabouts from Patil. The Radha-Patil conversation has to hold some meaning. I found it bit too prolonged and Patil questioning Radhaji a little unnatural. So, I am thinking all of it was shown just so that somebody would know where Radhaji has gone at such an early hour of the morning, when RK would be looking out for her desperately. However, I am relieved that their patch up will be taking place far away from the RK mansion without the evil Bhati'as around.

Originally posted by: dramacrazy12

I tend to disagree... most women are pretty mature around that age and what I am talking about has very little to do with practicality and more with basic emotional maturity

I don't think it is character's fault per se , I just think that CVs have ignored some important issues in her case

1)You know that your husband has a past relationship with his SIL and had hurt him very badly. You know SIL in question is ready to throw you out at a moment's notice, play kitchen politics and has been trying to seduce your husband and drive a wedge in your relationship. She has a habit of walking in your sanctuary without a thought much to the displeasure of your husband. Do you feel an ounce of jealousy, righteous anger, hatred or displeasure...Nope...instead you ask your husband to be nice to her.

2)Your husband believes that his mother hurt him. You are aware that your FIL and BIL are not nice people and wastrels. Do you try to find the reason of your husband's angst and talk to him about it...nope you twist his arm into reconcilliation. Do you encourage your MIL to take strong steps to rebuild that bond and question her passivity all these years? Nope... you bask in the knowledge that you are going to do this for mother-son duo and forge ahead. You basically put the responsibility of entire fractured relationship on your husband alone.

3) You believe you are in love with RK...but wait a minute you thought you were in love with Mukund a few months ago. Do you ponder on difference in the feelings or which one felt more real and why? Nope you just skim through it all. RK asks you to walk away with him when you prompt him to confess his love but instead of giving him the expected answer, you are thinking about your promise to your MIL...unbelievable! It would have made more sense if she had hesitated because she felt that RK needs to heal before walking away from it all.

4)RK explains why he wants to give it all away, you are not sold on it but you agree since you love him. Do you even try to ask relevant questions and draw attention towards other options like does that mean I will never get to see my family again...how can that be okay? You hate the idea to losing love but you are ready to let my family suffer with the same? Will you be okay with your decision if something happens to your family? You love your work ...will you be okay away from it all?