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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi



Chaaru, the segment actually confirmed my belief that Sona Jotin's marriage track will happen. 😆 😆 . And Sonakshi will go along with it. Here's why --

1) Saurabh-- he has been Sonakshi's confidant and support for a long time. He was the one who would coax all of her true feelings and defend her and support her unconditionally. With Ronita accepting his proposal, Saurabh is on cloud nine. Mrs. M has already shown her feelings about Sonakshi staying there with Soha. If his wedding is not going as planned with Ronita, he might not say anything openly, but will definitely be sad. Similar to how Dev felt for Neha and was ready to fulfill all her wishes because of what Neha had done in the past, Sonakshi will be ready to do the same for Saurabh. Here he may not ask it himself or may even say it's ok, but seeing him pine for Ronita will not be something that Sonakshi will be able to handle. She would not want another thing to add to her guilt.

2) Soha -- It is true that in the segment, Soha said she doesn't want to choose, that she wanted to live with both mommy and papa. But she also knows that Sonakshi and Dev are not ready to live together. That although they care for each other as parents, they are not like Bijoy and Asha who are happy with each other. She has also seen how Jotin has taken care of her mom, how Sonakshi is happy with him. Till now Sonakshi and Jotin's marriage talks has happened behind Soha, not in front of her. If Jotin says that he will not take Dev's place as her papa, but will marry Sonakshi to take care of her and will be Her(Soha's) Jotti as she calls him now always, Soha would want Sonakshi to marry Jotin. Especially since she will see Bijoy's happiness in it.

3) Dev -- Post leap when he talks about Sonakshi and their love, be it with Golu or Ishwari, he doesn't refer to it as a "mistake". He owns that he was not a good husband, calls himself nakaam pati. He also thinks Sonakshi was too good and he wasn't good enough and will never be one. He also knows that Ishwari will never accept Sonakshi and since Sonakshi herself doesn't love him there is no point in trying to convince his mom. Dev has come to believe that Sonakshi does not love him and he thinks only of Soha. If Sona marrying Jotin makes Soha happy, then he will also make peace with it and not do anything that he thinks might upset Soha.

3) Sonakshi-- she has been living with the guilt for the past 7years. She calls her falling in love with Dev as a "mistake" which given a chance would like to mend it. She thinks she should have listened to Bijoy and because she didn't, he was insulted(slap by Dev), her family was hurt, thrown to the streets and she is solely responsible for all that. In the segment Bijoy made it clear that he doesn't want Dev anywhere near Sonakshi or Soha. He will definitely remind her of the insults that he had to endure because of her trusting Dev. Of all the things they had to bear since then.

This will prompt Sonakshi to reconsider marrying Jotin and say yes as she will see this as the way to redeem herself for all the distress caused by her to her family. This is also important for her as she thinks she takes her own decisions and is not unduly influenced by Bijoy or anyone. Doing so she will be in the same place as Dev, where she is trying to secure happiness to others even if is momentarily. She has to understand Dev in order to begin the healing process.

Only when she accepts that her falling in love with Dev was natural and not a "mistake", that she did not do anything wrong in wanting that love, will she be able to trust Dev again as her spouse. Only then will Dev and Sonakshi come together.


Shaavi mindblowing dear...👏
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: jigsaw1234



I am not sure I understand this.
We want Sona and Dev together but only in Dev's terms because he is afraid of rejection? He pushed her away. Like you say above, Sonakshi rejected him when they broke up - and breaking up was his choice wasn't it? She didn't open her mouth ever and say 'She made a mistake by loving him or marrying him'. She didn't say 'Get out of my life'.
We are repeatedly shown what she thinks of Dev as a father for her child. She doesn't doubt his love for their child.

Unless Dev can prove himself as a good lover/husband, I don't want Sona to live with him. I'd rather she give Soha away to the Dixits and walk away with dignity.

So why exactly do we think it is Sona who is wrong in all this? I can understand the need for sympathy to Dev but what is Sona's fault?




The beauty of KRPKAB is that there is no black and white characters, except maybe Ayaan. Even maami and Vickky are not completely black, they are just darker shades of grey. The breakup was not just a result of Dev or Ishwari's mistakes, Sonakshi and Bijoy are also responsible for it. If Ishwari was driven by her insecurities and fear, Bijoy was driven by pride and ego. Is Ishwari wanted to retain absolute control over Son, Bijoy was not ready to let go of his daughter either. Both Dev and Sonakshi respected and mirrored these parents. Both of them let their parents interfere in almost everything.

As much as Dev or Ishwari need to introspect , accept their follies that lead to the breakup, Sonakshi and Bijoy need to do the same. Pride goes a long way before fall and there is no such thing as a selfless act in pride. It is true that Sonakshi did a lot of things for Dixit family, bore all the taunts and all, but most of the times it was not for selfless reasons. For Sonakshi it was about making her fairy tale come true and from her view, a "happily ever after" meant a family mirroring Bose family. She set out to place Dev as Bijoy and Ishwari as her dida and herself in Asha's place without completely understanding the role played by Asha. Also she did not stop to listen or give time to make this happen. Her fear of losing Dev acted as a catalyst and Sonakshi wanted her vision come true in a short period of time.

Dev might have said the words get out, but he had always told Sonakshi that he loved her and was committed to her. He kept proving it over and over, but in the end he got tired of it. Hence his disappointment.

All these main characters are now placed in such a way that they are emulating the characters that they judged others the most. Dev is now fighting for acceptance, understanding the struggle Sonakshi went through with his family during marriage phase. Sonakshi is learning how guilt can overshadow good decision making and make someone so vulnerable that will lead to committing blunders.

Ishwari is realizing how her interference and fear is costing her son to not have real happiness. How she is responsible for not giving him the freedom that he deserves. Bijoy on his end will realize that pride, ego and arrogance are not virtues. That he has not really followed what he preaches regarding absolute morality and will eat his share of humble pie.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi



The beauty of KRPKAB is that there is no black and white characters, except maybe Ayaan. Even maami and Vickky are not completely black, they are just darker shades of grey. The breakup was not just a result of Dev or Ishwari's mistakes, Sonakshi and Bijoy are also responsible for it. If Ishwari was driven by her insecurities and fear, Bijoy was driven by pride and ego. Is Ishwari wanted to retain absolute control over Son, Bijoy was not ready to let go of his daughter either. Both Dev and Sonakshi respected and mirrored these parents. Both of them let their parents interfere in almost everything.

As much as Dev or Ishwari need to introspect , accept their follies that lead to the breakup, Sonakshi and Bijoy need to do the same. Pride goes a long way before fall and there is no such thing as a selfless act in pride. It is true that Sonakshi did a lot of things for Dixit family, bore all the taunts and all, but most of the times it was not for selfless reasons. For Sonakshi it was about making her fairy tale come true and from her view, a "happily ever after" meant a family mirroring Bose family. She set out to place Dev as Bijoy and Ishwari as her dida and herself in Asha's place without completely understanding the role played by Asha. Also she did not stop to listen or give time to make this happen. Her fear of losing Dev acted as a catalyst and Sonakshi wanted her vision come true in a short period of time.

Dev might have said the words get out, but he had always told Sonakshi that he loved her and was committed to her. He kept proving it over and over, but in the end he got tired of it. Hence his disappointment.

All these main characters are now placed in such a way that they are emulating the characters that they judged others the most. Dev is now fighting for acceptance, understanding the struggle Sonakshi went through with his family during marriage phase. Sonakshi is learning how guilt can overshadow good decision making and make someone so vulnerable that will lead to committing blunders.

Ishwari is realizing how her interference and fear is costing her son to not have real happiness. How she is responsible for not giving him the freedom that he deserves. Bijoy on his end will realize that pride, ego and arrogance are not virtues. That he has not really followed what he preaches regarding absolute morality and will eat his share of humble pie.


Bolded - True...Shaavi, I am not sure whether you had noticed one of my post (in the earlier threads) to you asking what was your thought on two scenes were Sona herself says she did it not only for Dev, it was for her happiness too...And those 2 scenes have made me feel exactly what you have expressed here.
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Posted: 8 years ago
I am so sad today after reading the views in the thread- I may be in the minority-
I can't accept sona- Jatin marriage.
Even soha agreeing to this & deciding on this- can't think.
I can't think other than devakshi.
Probably I may be the only one who would stop watching this show if this track happens.

I don't want reunion in the end or Dev be a last choice for sona.
If sona marries Jatin , I want a beautiful & understanding girl for Dev who can bring happiness in his life-
I don't think loving someone & thinking her as a part of himself is a crime.

Lastly I wouldn't want soha to agree to sona- Jatin marriage.
She is dev's daughter!! After seeing her papa's love for her , she should not agree.
Sorry for my rant- please don't bash me.
I know it is only a hypothetical scenario- I couldn't imagine that only-
Strong devakshi fan in me refuse to listen
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi



Chaaru, the segment actually confirmed my belief that Sona Jotin's marriage track will happen. 😆 😆 . And Sonakshi will go along with it. Here's why --

1) Saurabh-- he has been Sonakshi's confidant and support for a long time. He was the one who would coax all of her true feelings and defend her and support her unconditionally. With Ronita accepting his proposal, Saurabh is on cloud nine. Mrs. M has already shown her feelings about Sonakshi staying there with Soha. If his wedding is not going as planned with Ronita, he might not say anything openly, but will definitely be sad. Similar to how Dev felt for Neha and was ready to fulfill all her wishes because of what Neha had done in the past, Sonakshi will be ready to do the same for Saurabh. Here he may not ask it himself or may even say it's ok, but seeing him pine for Ronita will not be something that Sonakshi will be able to handle. She would not want another thing to add to her guilt.

2) Soha -- It is true that in the segment, Soha said she doesn't want to choose, that she wanted to live with both mommy and papa. But she also knows that Sonakshi and Dev are not ready to live together. That although they care for each other as parents, they are not like Bijoy and Asha who are happy with each other. She has also seen how Jotin has taken care of her mom, how Sonakshi is happy with him. Till now Sonakshi and Jotin's marriage talks has happened behind Soha, not in front of her. If Jotin says that he will not take Dev's place as her papa, but will marry Sonakshi to take care of her and will be Her(Soha's) Jotti as she calls him now always, Soha would want Sonakshi to marry Jotin. Especially since she will see Bijoy's happiness in it.

3) Dev -- Post leap when he talks about Sonakshi and their love, be it with Golu or Ishwari, he doesn't refer to it as a "mistake". He owns that he was not a good husband, calls himself nakaam pati. He also thinks Sonakshi was too good and he wasn't good enough and will never be one. He also knows that Ishwari will never accept Sonakshi and since Sonakshi herself doesn't love him there is no point in trying to convince his mom. Dev has come to believe that Sonakshi does not love him and he thinks only of Soha. If Sona marrying Jotin makes Soha happy, then he will also make peace with it and not do anything that he thinks might upset Soha.

3) Sonakshi-- she has been living with the guilt for the past 7years. She calls her falling in love with Dev as a "mistake" which given a chance would like to mend it. She thinks she should have listened to Bijoy and because she didn't, he was insulted(slap by Dev), her family was hurt, thrown to the streets and she is solely responsible for all that. In the segment Bijoy made it clear that he doesn't want Dev anywhere near Sonakshi or Soha. He will definitely remind her of the insults that he had to endure because of her trusting Dev. Of all the things they had to bear since then.

This will prompt Sonakshi to reconsider marrying Jotin and say yes as she will see this as the way to redeem herself for all the distress caused by her to her family. This is also important for her as she thinks she takes her own decisions and is not unduly influenced by Bijoy or anyone. Doing so she will be in the same place as Dev, where she is trying to secure happiness to others even if is momentarily. She has to understand Dev in order to begin the healing process.

Only when she accepts that her falling in love with Dev was natural and not a "mistake", that she did not do anything wrong in wanting that love, will she be able to trust Dev again as her spouse. Only then will Dev and Sonakshi come together.

But in this situation max to max they can go to proposal from jatin. Not more then that. Sona might get agree to that she will try to think jatin as a, life partner but not more then that. We required to see what soha wants she, wants, dev and, sona, together or she want a family like, a, normal child. And this is true dev is not thinking to get sona back because, he, knows, his mother and, thinks, sona, don't want to come back , is suppressing her love and, wraping it in the, form of hate and care for soha's mother and, same, applies to sona she, knows, ishu and, bijoy is not ready to accecpt there relation and, she, feels dev don't want her. Let's see how they move the story. But personaly I wil be happy if they show, that for soha they accept to live together as a family for some days to give her the feel.and, after that they can show, jatin is, proposing her this will incearse problem for dev and sona, because when they will be together and, isolated fron their parents they will relasize there mistakes, and after that jo aag legegi from the both sides means, from dev and sona's, side it will bring them together from double, force. What's, say.
Edited by timbarucha83 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: timbarucha83


But in this situation max to max they can go to proposal from Latin. Not more then that. Sona might get agree to that she will try to think jatin as a, life partner but not more then that. We required to see what soha wants she, wants, dev and, sona, together or she want a family like, a, normal child. And this is true dev is not thinking to get sona back because, he, knows, his mother and, thinks, sona, don't want to come back , is suppressing her love and, wraping it in the, form of hate and care for soha's mother and, same, applies to sona she, knows, ishu and, bijoy is not ready to accecpt there relation and, she, feels dev don't want her. Let's see how they move the story. But personaly I wil be happy if they show, that for soha they accept to live together as a family for some days to give her the feel.and, after that they can show, jatin is, proposing her this will incearse problem for dev and sona, because when they will be together and, isolated fron their parents they will relasize there mistakes, and after that jo aag legegi from the both sides means, from dev and sona's, side it will bring them together from double, force. What's, say.



I think Sonakshi-- Jotin's track will be similar to Dev -- Natasha track where it will go till engagement or marriage as some spoilers say. According to some spoilers, on the wedding day, Soha will say she doesn't want Sonakshi to marry Jotin and wants Dev both as her papa and husband of Sonakshi.Following this Sonakshi will cancel the wedding and return to IN with Soha.

I feel this spoiler is true or will come true 😆 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi



I think Sonakshi-- Jotin's track will be similar to Dev -- Natasha track where it will go till engagement or marriage as some spoilers say. According to some spoilers, on the wedding day, Soha will say she doesn't want Sonakshi to marry Jotin and wants Dev both as her papa and husband of Sonakshi.Following this Sonakshi will cancel the wedding and return to IN with Soha.

I feel this spoiler is true or will come true 😆 😆


I want the first half to happen but the cancellation not with Sohas permission or interference...Just want Sona to realise the truth by herself that she still loves Dev n is incomplete without him...!in S1 how Dev cancelled out the engagement,i want the same route to follow this time Sona pursuing him!
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Posted: 8 years ago
Hello everyone
Logged in after a while. Will catch up on messages and respond. Seen the segment about Soha wanting to move to Kolkotta. What a clever little girl

Thanks
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Chandniyati

@ drama queen Di..

M too small to comment on Ur POV's...
But m jus with each POV here...

Regarding the belt... It has already been analysed a lot more...In some other thread...

Ur PS is so uch valid n m annoyed n irked with the same...
Hope they stop using further with DevAkshi's changing equation...

Hey Chand

Dont be so humble please. I love your posts and thanks for the appreciaion

I have sent a note to Mamta Patnaik. Not sure if she will notice or not. I am not on twitter sadly.

Thanks DQ
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Posted: 8 years ago
@jigsaw1234
Every individual is different. For Sonakshi it is impossible to live without Sona. I can easily understand and appreciate that because I am the same. Make me walk on live coals but can't stay without my son. My ex husband was hundred times Dev, but if he had won the custody case, I would have taken back the divorce case. No second thoughts about it.

Also, There is nothing demeaning about it. In the show also, The mother in Sonakshi overpowers the woman in her and so if the worst scenario comes, Sonakshi will follow Soha.

I would personally prefer Sonakshi to sit with Soha and explain to her that papa and his family was not good to mummy and her grandparents and therefore it is not possible for her to go. She can explain that people can be very nice to people they love and bad at the same time to those whom they don't.

Soha is shown quite sensible and will understand. But if Soha acts unreasonable, Sona would have no option but to bend.

I said that day in pehchaan's post also, we all are judging the show by keeping ourselves in their place. But the leads are not us. What makes you or me feel happy or satisfied will not make Sonakshi happy. Even in our family, is the happiness and needs of two sisters same?

We want redemption of Dev, we want him to grovel before Sonakshi, but have we thought for two minutes what Sonakshi, the character wants?

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