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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: _Payalj_

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Every individual is different. For Sonakshi it is impossible to live without Sona. I can easily understand and appreciate that because I am the same. Make me walk on live coals but can't stay without my son. My ex husband was hundred times Dev, but if he had won the custody case, I would have taken back the divorce case. No second thoughts about it.

Also, There is nothing demeaning about it. In the show also, The mother in Sonakshi overpowers the woman in her and so if the worst scenario comes, Sonakshi will follow Soha.

I would personally prefer Sonakshi to sit with Soha and explain to her that papa and his family was not good to mummy and her grandparents and therefore it is not possible for her to go. She can explain that people can be very nice to people they love and bad at the same time to those whom they don't.

Soha is shown quite sensible and will understand. But if Soha acts unreasonable, Sona would have no option but to bend.

I said that day in pehchaan's post also, we all are judging the show by keeping ourselves in their place. But the leads are not us. What makes you or me feel happy or satisfied will not make Sonakshi happy. Even in our family, is the happiness and needs of two sisters same?

We want redemption of Dev, we want him to grovel before Sonakshi, but have we thought for two minutes what Sonakshi, the character wants?


Payalji...I have read your post in Pehchaan's post...You have presented your points nicely there.And infact wanted you to post the same here...because not everyone here reads Team Sona's threads...😊
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi



The beauty of KRPKAB is that there is no black and white characters, except maybe Ayaan. Even maami and Vickky are not completely black, they are just darker shades of grey. The breakup was not just a result of Dev or Ishwari's mistakes, Sonakshi and Bijoy are also responsible for it. If Ishwari was driven by her insecurities and fear, Bijoy was driven by pride and ego. Is Ishwari wanted to retain absolute control over Son, Bijoy was not ready to let go of his daughter either. Both Dev and Sonakshi respected and mirrored these parents. Both of them let their parents interfere in almost everything.

As much as Dev or Ishwari need to introspect , accept their follies that lead to the breakup, Sonakshi and Bijoy need to do the same. Pride goes a long way before fall and there is no such thing as a selfless act in pride. It is true that Sonakshi did a lot of things for Dixit family, bore all the taunts and all, but most of the times it was not for selfless reasons. For Sonakshi it was about making her fairy tale come true and from her view, a "happily ever after" meant a family mirroring Bose family. She set out to place Dev as Bijoy and Ishwari as her dida and herself in Asha's place without completely understanding the role played by Asha. Also she did not stop to listen or give time to make this happen. Her fear of losing Dev acted as a catalyst and Sonakshi wanted her vision come true in a short period of time.

Dev might have said the words get out, but he had always told Sonakshi that he loved her and was committed to her. He kept proving it over and over, but in the end he got tired of it. Hence his disappointment.

All these main characters are now placed in such a way that they are emulating the characters that they judged others the most. Dev is now fighting for acceptance, understanding the struggle Sonakshi went through with his family during marriage phase. Sonakshi is learning how guilt can overshadow good decision making and make someone so vulnerable that will lead to committing blunders.

Ishwari is realizing how her interference and fear is costing her son to not have real happiness. How she is responsible for not giving him the freedom that he deserves. Bijoy on his end will realize that pride, ego and arrogance are not virtues. That he has not really followed what he preaches regarding absolute morality and will eat his share of humble pie.



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Thanks for this.

I agree on the underlying thread in this story: no black or white; all of us are grey and are hero/villain at various times.

I am not a fan of trashing one character to glorify the other or someone to take sides blindly. With that in my mind, let me put forward my argument.

I don't understand why we blame Ishwari and Bijoy for everything that has happened between Sona and Dev.
We were shown Dev and Ishwari are an adorable mother - son duo. Ishwari was never unkind to anyone. She is incredibly tolerant. She is as righteous as Bijoy Bose if we need comparison. When she realised her son's future was being out in a hard bargain she made the choice, irrespective of her daughter's wishes. Neha did eventually find a better man. When Dev was ready to marry Natasha, again she didn't disapprove. She did remind Dev not to mix business and family though but left it for him.
What was common in both situations was the proposal came to her first. She then discussed with her son. She repeatedly was shown to believe that her son will tell her when he falls in love. She believed in their trust for each other.

Now, comes Dev-Sona's love. What did Dev do? Even when Sona asked him to talk to family, he refused. What exactly was bothering him about his own family? Why did he fail to show trust in his mother?

My question is, don't you think Ishwari was pushed to insecurity by Dev failing to trust his mother? Of course, Ishwari, like any mother, right or wrong, will always support her child, hence her lack of faith in Sona. She couldn't believe her love could have taught her son to deceive her. So she blamed Sona and however hard she tried she couldn't forgive Sona.

Bijoy and Asha, they are a pair. I refuse to believe they have an impact individually because then we would be saying loud one always has the louder say. Again, Bijoy is protective, he was respectful to Dev at all times before their first break up. Again, after seeing your child hurt tell show me a parent who won't be paranoid the next time around? In real life, at 10, my son's classmate's parents don't even invite a child for their child's play date because that boy cheated their son in a game of pokemon!
So what is wrong in Bijoy being protective?

BTW, when Sona finally went to meet Dev because they were on the streets it wasn't because Bijoy told her to , it was actually Asha!

Again, my question is didn't Dev push the Boses to distrust him? Show me an instance before the first break up where Bijoy expressed distrust. This is the same Bijoy who told Sona to keep her relationship secret form the rest of Bose family so she can enjoy a bit of romance!

Both Ishwari and Boses are 'Once bitten Twice shy' and they were unfortunately bitten by Dev Dixit.

So going forward I wouldn't want to involve the parents in the mix at all. Their pride is there for us to see in how well they have brought up their children who are self sufficient, independent, intelligent and have a great social standing. All of us have pride and arrogance and to me, both these sets of parents show it wisely. Of course, if we get on their wrong side, you don't expect even a mouse to sit tight, do we?
Both their children are brought up well, given enough tools to distinguish right from wrong and respect from blind faith!

Coming to Sona and Dev. Again, you make a good point on there being no such thing as selfless act. I totally agree with you on this. Sona's actions at the Dixits house were her attempts in her words to bind with that family. Right or wrong they were her choice and being the person I am, I'd just say, she tried with good intentions and that is everything.

@Bold, Sure they love each other. In all things in life there is a moral code.

Sona didn't come back to leave the Dixits. She came back to put an end to the issue raised because of money.

She didn't leave because he lied or the taunts or that he slapped her father. She left because he asked her to leave!

Even if we say she was wrong to return the money, fight for her father's pride, It is a shame that Dev who expected her to understand his fight for his mother's pride and wishes wasn't able to understand her.

Like I wrote elsewhere: What this story has shown me is most promises are there to be broken, relying on each other is relationship after all. There are also times when one must be the stronger one, the honest one and there are some lines which should never be crossed. And those are the times that actually matter!
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Shaavi, how do manage to spellbound everytime with your superb analysis.
I agree that Baba Bose might propose Jotin-Sona marriage talks, as he is ready to do anything to keep Dev away from Bose Girls. And Saurav might agree to Mondal's demands and want Sona to settle down. And Soha is chota dhamaka and I m curious to know what goes on in her mind. 😆
Even after all this I hope we don't get Jotin- Sona marriage track. If a situation occurs Sona should move out of Bose house with Soha, but marrying just for the sake of other's happiness will be like repeating her previous mistake. And that BL spoiler, i just hated which you think will come true. Lets see what happens, after all cvs must have planned something with Jotin.


@Grace, I really liked what you said. Dev will convince Soha to stay with Sona. I really wish it happens because the Dev I a seeing is ready to do anything to keep Soha in front of him. He was ready to fight his fear to spend some time with his daughter. Even the thought that he will not get time with his daughter made him go into the room to fight the snake, so what will he do when he will come to know that Soha has planned to move out of Delhi. Lets see how cvs surprise us this time.


@Payal, i completely agree with you. The main issue here is that we keep ourselves in place of dev and sona. But they both are different characters and have their own nature and way of responding to things. So its better to watch them as Dev- Sona rather then judging them by comparing.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: _Payalj_

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Every individual is different. For Sonakshi it is impossible to live without Sona. I can easily understand and appreciate that because I am the same. Make me walk on live coals but can't stay without my son. My ex husband was hundred times Dev, but if he had won the custody case, I would have taken back the divorce case. No second thoughts about it.

Also, There is nothing demeaning about it. In the show also, The mother in Sonakshi overpowers the woman in her and so if the worst scenario comes, Sonakshi will follow Soha.

I would personally prefer Sonakshi to sit with Soha and explain to her that papa and his family was not good to mummy and her grandparents and therefore it is not possible for her to go. She can explain that people can be very nice to people they love and bad at the same time to those whom they don't.

Soha is shown quite sensible and will understand. But if Soha acts unreasonable, Sona would have no option but to bend.

I said that day in pehchaan's post also, we all are judging the show by keeping ourselves in their place. But the leads are not us. What makes you or me feel happy or satisfied will not make Sonakshi happy. Even in our family, is the happiness and needs of two sisters same?

We want redemption of Dev, we want him to grovel before Sonakshi, but have we thought for two minutes what Sonakshi, the character wants?



Fair enough. I made that statement on Sona leaving the child behind in rush of emotion and more like putting myself in that place rather than the character.

That said, other than the CVs who knows what the character wants? Sona might choose either way - stay with the child and father or walk away for the child and Dev's happiness.

Sorry if I have made you believe that I want Dev to grovel in front of Sona. No, actually, I want him to grovel in front of his mum first. Tell her why he couldn't trust her when he fell in love with Sona. He owes her that much. I want to believe that after he succeeds in this, when Ishwari knows Soha's wish, she will bring them together!


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Posted: 8 years ago
@jigsaw 1234 very well said,Sona did try her best to fit in all the roles of a family but didn't get required support from her partner and couldn't really work as a team.She did come back for Soha so that she could get both parents love no girl would ever return after her infertility was mocked by the person whom she could die for.I still don't understand the reason Dev didn't ever try to find about Sona in all these years if he didn't mean those hurtful words then even she didn't mean to leave him.I have seen many FL on television but Sonakshi falls in different league.I am no team Sona or Dev but find me lover like Sona I would never leave him nor would let him leave me 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: jigsaw1234



Fair enough. I made that statement on Sona leaving the child behind in rush of emotion and more like putting myself in that place rather than the character.

That said, other than the CVs who knows what the character wants? Sona might choose either way - stay with the child and father or walk away for the child and Dev's happiness.

Sorry if I have made you believe that I want Dev to grovel in front of Sona. No, actually, I want him to grovel in front of his mum first. Tell her why he couldn't trust her when he fell in love with Sona. He owes her that much. I want to believe that after he succeeds in this, when Ishwari knows Soha's wish, she will bring them together!



You are again telling what you want😆. Anyways don't misunderstand me. Even I would love a scene in which Dev understands all his mistakes, asks for Sona's forgiveness and kicks Ishwari out of his life. I would also not want Sona to forgive him easily. In fact I would prefer if she asks him to make his entire property jointly held in their name as security against his greedy and cheap family.

But based on the charactisation shown in the past one year, I know that is not going to happen. Sonakshi is too soft and too big a hopeless romantic for this to happen.

So I have to accept the characters as they are. The way we accept the characters in a movie or a novel. We can like them or hate them but we can't have them as per our specifications
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@shaavi : I read your analysis of yesterday's episode and agree that Ronita's family meeting Vicky-XGKB, could have its consequences earmarked about the business partnership of Sonakshi-Saurabh-Jotin. XGKB would throw enough mirch-masala into their eyes and this is going to create teary days ahead for Bose family. Saurabh looks smitten with Ronita and Sonakshi would not spoil the relationship or ruin it, if Ronita's family comes up with fresh demands. Sonakshi-Jotin relationship could be questioned and marriage could be an answer to silence the critics.

This could be the realisation track of Sonakshi. Her introspection about her need of Dev as Suhana's dad or as her better half is going to be played soon. Unless, of course, Creatives surprise us, just like Ronita and her mother meeting Vicky-XGKB.



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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: jigsaw1234



Edited for readability.

Thanks for this.

I agree on the underlying thread in this story: no black or white; all of us are grey and are hero/villain at various times.

I am not a fan of trashing one character to glorify the other or someone to take sides blindly. With that in my mind, let me put forward my argument.

I don't understand why we blame Ishwari and Bijoy for everything that has happened between Sona and Dev.
We were shown Dev and Ishwari are an adorable mother - son duo. Ishwari was never unkind to anyone. She is incredibly tolerant. She is as righteous as Bijoy Bose if we need comparison. When she realised her son's future was being out in a hard bargain she made the choice, irrespective of her daughter's wishes. Neha did eventually find a better man. When Dev was ready to marry Natasha, again she didn't disapprove. She did remind Dev not to mix business and family though but left it for him.
What was common in both situations was the proposal came to her first. She then discussed with her son. She repeatedly was shown to believe that her son will tell her when he falls in love. She believed in their trust for each other.

Now, comes Dev-Sona's love. What did Dev do? Even when Sona asked him to talk to family, he refused. What exactly was bothering him about his own family? Why did he fail to show trust in his mother?

My question is, don't you think Ishwari was pushed to insecurity by Dev failing to trust his mother? Of course, Ishwari, like any mother, right or wrong, will always support her child, hence her lack of faith in Sona. She couldn't believe her love could have taught her son to deceive her. So she blamed Sona and however hard she tried she couldn't forgive Sona.

Bijoy and Asha, they are a pair. I refuse to believe they have an impact individually because then we would be saying loud one always has the louder say. Again, Bijoy is protective, he was respectful to Dev at all times before their first break up. Again, after seeing your child hurt tell show me a parent who won't be paranoid the next time around? In real life, at 10, my son's classmate's parents don't even invite a child for their child's play date because that boy cheated their son in a game of pokemon!
So what is wrong in Bijoy being protective?

BTW, when Sona finally went to meet Dev because they were on the streets it wasn't because Bijoy told her to , it was actually Asha!

Again, my question is didn't Dev push the Boses to distrust him? Show me an instance before the first break up where Bijoy expressed distrust. This is the same Bijoy who told Sona to keep her relationship secret form the rest of Bose family so she can enjoy a bit of romance!

Both Ishwari and Boses are 'Once bitten Twice shy' and they were unfortunately bitten by Dev Dixit.

So going forward I wouldn't want to involve the parents in the mix at all. Their pride is there for us to see in how well they have brought up their children who are self sufficient, independent, intelligent and have a great social standing. All of us have pride and arrogance and to me, both these sets of parents show it wisely. Of course, if we get on their wrong side, you don't expect even a mouse to sit tight, do we?
Both their children are brought up well, given enough tools to distinguish right from wrong and respect from blind faith!

Coming to Sona and Dev. Again, you make a good point on there being no such thing as selfless act. I totally agree with you on this. Sona's actions at the Dixits house were her attempts in her words to bind with that family. Right or wrong they were her choice and being the person I am, I'd just say, she tried with good intentions and that is everything.

@Bold, Sure they love each other. In all things in life there is a moral code.

Sona didn't come back to leave the Dixits. She came back to put an end to the issue raised because of money.

She didn't leave because he lied or the taunts or that he slapped her father. She left because he asked her to leave!

Even if we say she was wrong to return the money, fight for her father's pride, It is a shame that Dev who expected her to understand his fight for his mother's pride and wishes wasn't able to understand her.

Like I wrote elsewhere: What this story has shown me is most promises are there to be broken, relying on each other is relationship after all. There are also times when one must be the stronger one, the honest one and there are some lines which should never be crossed. And those are the times that actually matter!


@ Bold red. Ishwari did not disapprove of Natasha, but she didn't approve of her either. It was shown several times how Ishwari was fighting very hard to accept the truth regarding Dev's engagement or marriage talks. The reason she did not show her displeasure in a direct manner is because she did not see Dev depending on Natasha emotionally. What Ishwari saw was that Dev still came to her for advise and she was still his confidant. Here Ishwari also knew that Natasha meant a big deal to Dev's business and for his growth as businessman. And she did not want to be the hurdle in Dev's business development.

@ bold blue. Dev on some level knew of his mother's possessiveness regarding him. Also he did not want to share Sonakshi's love with anyone else. Till Sonakshi came in his life, he had not wished for anything for himself in his life. He had to share everything he ever had with his family all his life. I am not saying it is a wrong thing, but a person would like to have something for their own and Dev did not have anything for his own. Even the money he earned was for his family and not for himself. He wanted to prolong the disclosure for as long as possible. He knew that one day he would have to, but he was procrastinating, just like Sonakshi did with revealing Soha to Dev. She knew she had to do it one day, but was not sure when that one day was(thanks Sam 😊 ). Hence he wasn't really prepared for what followed the revelation.

@bold pink. Bijoy rejected Dev immediately after meeting Ishwari even before the initial breakup. It is true that when he came to know that Dev had told his mom, he wanted her to take her time romancing her. But when Sonakshi tried to learn cooking, he immediately became agitated and concerned. He adamantly told her that she should not change and anyoen who makes her question herself was not good enough. Here neither Dev nor Ishwari had asked her to learn anything. She had taken the initiative herself. Following her trying to learn cooking, Bijoy decided to visit IN and talk to Ishwari. When Ishwari said that she wan not very happy with Dev -- Sonakshi's love, Bijoy recanted his acceptance of their relationship. He told Sonakshi to reconsider and did not think him good enough for her. This was even before the initial breakup in the hospital. 😊

@ bold purple. It is true Bijoy and Asha are a pair. But they do have their strengths and weaknesses. As much as Sonakshi was influenced by Bijoy, Saurabh was influenced by Asha. If we see season 1, it is very clear most of the time how Sonakshi and Saurabh mirror Bijoy and Asha. They formed a wonderful pair because of Asha being who she is. Sonakshi did not fully understand Asha's role in maintaining the relationships. Sam has written in detail regarding the dynamics between this pair(sorry don't remember the thread link. But this is kind of the summary of it.).

@ bold green. Bijoy is not just protective, but over protective. He usually doesn't follow what he preaches. His treatment of Saurabh is the example. It is just because Saurabh took it all in good humor, it did not seem bad. Bijoy wanted a partner like Ritwick or Jotin for Sonakshi without thinking if they were the kind of partner she wanted. Bijoy never really understood what Sonakshi was looking for in a partner. When Sonakshi married Dev, she was looking for support and acceptance from Bijoy, but she did not find either one. Anytime Sona did anything, Bijoy would immediately think it is Dev's doing and when something happened, he did not hold off saying "I told you so". He might not have used the exact words, but made it abundantly clear of his disapproval and I told you so.

@ bold violet. True that we all take pride in our upbringing, but this pride should be under control. Here I would like to add Pride and Prejudice. In that although Darcy has all the good qualities, he is still considered as "proud" because of his behavior. I have kids and my son is praised by a lot of people. It does make me proud, but it does not blind me to his faults. Here Bijoy has cultivated this understanding in Sonakshi that is perfect and flawless. There is no person on this earth without faults. Sonakshi has many flaws some of which are pride, conceit, ego and not accepting her mistakes.

Even in season 1, before realizing she loves Dev, she interfered in Dev's family stuff, but did not really think it was wrong of her to do so. Especially when she had told Dev that he was not supposed to interfere in her life. She claimed she had good intentions for her interference. But it does not really mean that she had the right to interfere. And she never apologized when there were negative effects due to her interference.

Similar to Dev's blind faith in his mom, Sonakshi too had blind faith in Bijoy's decisions. She agreed to marry Ritwick claiming it to be her decision, when in reality it was Bijoy's and not hers. She called Ishwari as "maa", but did she really think of her as maa in true sense. Did she behave the same way with Ishwari as she would have behaved with Asha. Similarly, Bijoy called Dev "beta", but did he consider Dev as his son in true sense. If he had considered Dev as son, he would not have asked Sonakshi to hide anything from him regarding his family. But he repeatedly encouraged her to hide things from Dev while telling her that Dev shouldn't hide anything.

Only when Sonakshi and Bijoy accept that they are not perfect, that Dev is Sonakshi's perfect partner, will the true story unfold.

I think KRPKAb is kind of illustrating certain proverbs and sayings in a beautiful way. One of them is "never judge a book by the covers". Till now Sonakshi has judged Dev based on what she has seen so far, that is the cover of the book. She hasn't really understood Dev completely as she declares. There are several chapters to go for the main story to become a little clearer.




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@ Rekha. Thanks for your response. They are so beautifully worded. You have expressed them wonderfully. 👏 👏

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