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Posted: 8 years ago
@Geena ...u make understanding sonakshi easy
...excellent analysis of her thought process
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Shaavi
Suppose a Gardner got a beautiful rose for his garden, loved it more than himself. So he put the rose in the garden and said, promise me you will always stay here, you will never leave me. It was spring when he had got the rose plant.

Next came the scorching summer. The Gardener saw that the sun was beating mercilessly on the plant, the ground near it was getting cracked. It's not that he stopped loving, caring or worrying about the plant, but he did nothing to protect it. It was in his power to provide shade and water to the plant, but he didn't. He assumed that if the plant needed help, it would ask for it. Even when he could see that it's leaves were turning yellow, he maintained that stance since he believed that his plant was a 'super plant' He continued sitting in shade and drinking lemonade and coming time and again to meet the plant and loving her.

But he continued to provide shade and support to the older plants in the garden as he considered them fragile.

Then came the rains and thunderstorm. The plant which had already gotten weak because of the summer and still had not been given any shelter or support by the Gardener, gave up fighting and was uprooted by a strong gale of wind. The Gardener cried buckets and was heartbroken that the plant had broken it's promise of always being there for him.

The plant seemingly had a major fault in all this that it never spoke about what it was going through or what it needed..

But there is a twist in the tale. The rose plant had been robbed of its capacity to speak or complain and scared to death by the gardener himself when he had earlier thrown her into the jungle on the complaint of the so called fragile older plants in the garden. In fact she had been brought back only at the behest of the older plants and not because the gardener had made an effort for her. So she had no courage to demand some shade and water from the share of the older plants

The gardener forgot this and kept on staying angry at the plant that why she didn't speak up, why she didn't stay or fight for being with him.
Edited by _Payalj_ - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Payal just beautiful. You have penned it so beautifully. Loved the analogy.
Shaavi you have penned Dev's thought process beautifully. DQ I still feel she came to Delhi for a reason but will wait for next few episodes to conclude.

Thank you everyone. 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Payalji beautifully explained...
Post leap even i felt sonakshi came to Delhi with some perpose
But can't yet pinpointedly able to figure out
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaavi



On the first day of her job as nutritionist, Sonakshi inspects the things in kitchen and lists all things that should be stopped. Dev is with her and questions if it was necessary to stop completely or could it be allowed sometimes. He also asks if she knew what she was doing. She does not just say yes, but gives an example and says you don't need to teach me my job, same way as you know your job.

When Dev told her that he loves her and as a man loves his woman, he thought she understood stat. From his pov, they were already man and wife from that point forward. He treated her that way. When the first breakup happened, he could not understand why Sonakshi had taken his words at face value this time. Why she did not argue or say you do your job, I will do mine. But later he accepted what she said as he felt she knew better. Meaning she was the one to whom he would go to advice for relationships. Hence he thought she is right. His love and her role in his life could not accept it. He did all the things he did.

Here I am not understanding your point. You mean Dev can throw a tantrum(breakup) in response to his mother's tantrum(pill overdose). Sonakshi has to take the humiliation and understand as she is an adult and other two still kids?

After marriage he just assumed that she understood that they were husband and wife. There was no need to prove that to anyone. He did not understand why Sonakshi felt like she had to prove her role as wife or DIL or anything else if she did not find the need to prove herself as a nutritionist. Why she was not confident with herself. He tried to tell her time and over that she had nothing to prove and she was the best. But Sonakshi was looking for this validation from Ishwari and Bijoy that she was still the best.

Sonakshi tried her best to fit in the Dixit household because of her love for Dev. She knew from the above mentioned tantrum that if you keep MIL happy then son will also be happy. But she under-estimated her MIL. Do you think if she had invested only on Dev, Ishwari would have liked it? As it is Ishwari was paranoid that Sona would snatch Dev from her, so Sona wanted to pacify Ishwari that she is more interested in the family as whole and not only in Dev.

After the initial separation, she lost confidence in herself. This is one of her flaws where Sonakshi is not good at accepting failure. What Dev expected from her was to say this is what you get, deal with it. This is who I am, the way he accepted himself. He knew he was not the worlds best husband, but accepted that he was a work in progress and that was ok. He wanted her to think the same way and not try to go overboard with wanting to be the best wife or DIL. Her flaws or failures did not matter to him.

Her wanting to be best DIL lasted the initial days only. When she realized, nothing will make Ishwari her a part of family, her enthusiasm reduced.

Here is where Sonakshi failed. She could not accept anything less than best. She wanted herself to be best wife and DIL. She became to engrossed in that vision that she failed to see how it was affecting Dev. He felt left out. He tried to include himself with her that he tried to do things similar to her. If she said we should gift your family during Diwali, he did the same with her family. He thought this would make her happy. Although it did make her happy, it made Ishwari unhappy.

The failure was.. Dev only told her that he loves her as a man loves his woman. The action did not follow thru. Time and again, Sonakshi got humiliated, insulted. To keep Ishwari happy, Sona was made to compromise.

For Dev the logic is simple and straightforward. Keep each other happy. You are you and I am me. This is who we are. Be comfortable with that and accept it. Dev wanted her to accept her role as wife and not try to prove she is his wife. He wanted her to take it as her right and assert it the way she asserted as nutritionist. Be confident about herself.

This would have worked perfectly if they were in a nuclear family not in a joint family. Dev is like a child, his logic is simple and straightforward but he is surrounded by complex, narcissist, selfish people. Unfortunately Dev could not be man enough to act as Sonakshi's pillar of strength. He always wanted to be understood by Sonakshi but he never understood her.

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: _Payalj_

@Shaavi

Suppose a Gardner got a beautiful rose for his garden, loved it more than himself. So he put the rose in the garden and said, promise me you will always stay here, you will never leave me. It was spring when he had got the rose plant.

Next came the scorching summer. The Gardener saw that the sun was beating mercilessly on the plant, the ground near it was getting cracked. It's not that he stopped loving, caring or worrying about the plant, but he did nothing to protect it. It was in his power to provide shade and water to the plant, but he didn't. He assumed that if the plant needed help, it would ask for it. Even when he could see that it's leaves were turning yellow, he maintained that stance since he believed that his plant was a 'super plant' He continued sitting in shade and drinking lemonade and coming time and again to meet the plant and loving her.

But he continued to provide shade and support to the older plants in the garden as he considered them fragile.

Then came the rains and thunderstorm. The plant which had already gotten weak because of the summer and still had not been given any shelter or support by the Gardener, gave up fighting and was uprooted by a strong gale of wind. The Gardener cried buckets and was heartbroken that the plant had broken it's promise of always being there for him.

The plant seemingly had a major fault in all this that it never spoke about what it was going through or what it needed..

But there is a twist in the tale. The rose plant had been robbed of its capacity to speak or complain and scared to death by the gardener himself when he had earlier thrown her into the jungle on the complaint of the so called fragile older plants in the garden. In fact she had been brought back only at the behest of the older plants and not because the gardener had made an effort for her. So she had no courage to demand some shade and water from the share of the older plants

The gardener forgot this and kept on staying angry at the plant that why she didn't speak up, why she didn't stay or fight for being with him.


Awesome! 👏
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: FLW70


[BR][DIV]Why always everyone is writing about what Dev expected from Sonakshi?? I really would like to know[/DIV][DIV]What Sonakshi expected from Dev?[/DIV][DIV] Always Sonakshi is expected to be understanding... can't she expect any understanding from dev?[/DIV][DIV][/DIV]



[B] i think she expected love ,support and understanding her and he did many times.
1. He let Bose family put non veg in their menu knowing his family is pure veg .in there he went against ishu and supported sona.

2. sona kept vrat with out informing him. but he thinks his mother forced sona she went to ishu and asked her why the forcing his wife and when sona said it's her wish what ever she wanted to do he accepted and supported her

3. regarding vicky job issue sona suggested something and he thinks it's fair and understand her but his mother make him guilty and reminded him what his mamaji did for their family. if mamaji didn't helped maybe dixit family would not be here.so bound to debt to mamaji he ignored sona suggestion and give Vicky higher position. can we blame Dev for this

4. She went back and with out informing Dev she went to ranveer house to talk to ranveer bhabhi and it bought ranveer to dixit house,he insulted dixit family and sona and that time Dev supported her saying he understand her and her intention was not wrong.

5 . She hide Vicky Elena love affair. if it another guy then she need not inform her husband because it's her sister personal matter. but here her husband brother involved buy she thinks she will handle it and hide it and the result Vicky Elena eloped. and Dev didn't asked why she hide and why she didn't share it with him. instead he understand her and supported her.

6. she started business with her brother and it was huge thing and she didn't bother to share with her husband. she didn't need to take permission from him but when you start new business or something we generally informs our husbands.maybe she thinks that if he knows that he will insist to invest and she don't want his help but the same thing she could say him that. if he insist she can deny it. i don't think dev will force her take his money. she didn't inform him and he gets to know about some other person and he didn't angary with her .he understand her and supported her business.

there is lot of times he supported her ,understand her, and stand up for her. but sadly because of some mistakes of him over shadowed his good things.

And i believe that cvs always shows Dev small mistakes in big way and brush off sona big mistakes like they are nothing. [/B]
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Posted: 8 years ago
Hi guyes 😊😊
Now I am with my thoughts about the yesterdays episode. Now coming to the episode firstly I was anoyed and amez by ishu mata. I was like when this leady will come out her seflishess, she is, like, me, myself , my dreams, and only myself. Honestly I am not able, to imgine the situation which will bring her out and show that day by day she is becoming.
Now comming to dev and sona conferentstion I like it. Because finaly they have learned the, one lesson that is not to put the problem under carpet. They have started the communition related to actula problem
Befor they meet both have put there masks, and ready for fight. And actually they reaquired to do that. Because they want to play game, muze fark nahi padata. So starting was perfect many forum members have the problem that dev had not shown any gratitude towords sona as suhana's mother but the fact is she also didn't show any respect to dev ad father but when the pain of the dev come out in the form of anger then she started to feel guilty because she knows if dev was aware of there daugther then the things can be different and she knows what was the importance if girl child in dev's life. So she was on the back foot. But when dev put the point that how can be she crual then she tell the truth. Which is very important from there future point of view this truth will force dev to think about the soha and sona. Intiialy he was not able to do that as his, family was, his 1st priority and this, was the, out come of the guit. Now one more thing I want to say many of the person including me want to have a punishment to ishu and we don't want to have a normal communication of ishu and dev and if we see that we get pissed off
But to be very honest when I think about the his stiution he is, not in a position where he can escape from the mother's responsibility. He isactuly punishing her by not considering her as a god or not blindly following her wishes. And, I think this will brother her more.

I feel over the period of time ishu will get more and more impataint and will make, some stuidity which will lead to bust of dev's anger. After the truth of sona's try to meet dev dev will not show any anger to ishu but he will be angery with himself. Some how we show the anger which are, close to us. We feel we have a right on that person and today is dev don't show any anger to his mother and his so called family means now, they don't brother to them. His ditachment to words his mother
This is my take.
Edited by timbarucha83 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Hello guys i missed this place so much . Because of exams i couldn't able to write anything. but when ever i have time i read all discussions and i must say they are amazing .this place is a really treasure . thanks for all amazing reviews.
Edited by rekha.366 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Great expectations come with great responsibilities.. one doesnt exist with out the other.. it is not a charity .. it is a relationship when both husband and wife are held reaponsible for events in the life.

Job is different and marriage is different.. it was sona's work ethics that made her come back.. as she doesnt want to leave a job incomplete. In relationship it takes two people to make it work and if one is doing hiphop the other cant do bharatnatyam and still think the other would change the style and start doing hiphop. Usool and adarsh remain the same .. a persons judgement and ability to do the right thing doesnt change with the situation and the ppl involved in the situation.. we saw more than many times where dev chose the wrong path deliberately as it involves his mother. When dev asked her to get out for accidentally bumping into his mother becoz of an accidental push by dev (height of hypocrisy where he had just slapped her father) .. she starts helping ishu get up and is saying sorry... dev comes and says not to touch her and asks her to get out..says loving and marrying her is his biggest mistake. And ofcourse dont forget all the lying and cheating.. making and breaking promises at the blink of the eyr...not to forget that dixits have already labeled boses and sona as gold diggers during slap gate... so we expect sona to show her fighting spirit and stand ground and say "why should i go ? " really .. i think she still stood there and asked dev if that is what he really wants... same to ishu also ... so they cant open mouth and say no i didnt mean it ... but we are expecting sona to stay outside the dixit house and wait to be called back into the house again...
But still i guess we all talk about what dev's expectations and makr it all about his and his moms happiness... forget equality.. is that even humane !!!
Edited by dlavanya - 8 years ago

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