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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: FLW70



Why always everyone is writing about what Dev expected from Sonakshi?? I really would like to know
What Sonakshi expected from Dev?
Always Sonakshi is expected to be understanding... can't she expect any understanding from dev?



I would love to read about Sonakshi's inner feelings and her expectations from Dev .She has always been a mystery to me because she is not vocal about her true feelings .When I think of Sona I feel she doesn't let her mask slip because she is too afraid to be seen as a vulnerable women .Shavi does a excellent job of describing Dev's perspective .Hope you can throw some light on Sonakshi.

Some years back there was a normal Bengali family consisting of a man for whom morals ,principles was important and he was never able to apply the same in practical world .He married a practical women who was compassionate and understanding enough to understand his PoV and learnt to deal with his expectations .They had a son who was a average boy and he could never meet his father's expectations.The father was disappointed and all his hopes was on his daughter.The daughter was able to meet his father's expectations and became the apple of his eye .As years passed the daughter made sure her father was not disappointed by excelling in everything and never displayed her weakness to anyone .She was always kept on pedestal by her family and it became an habit .The father in all this forgot to teach her daughter one thing it's ok to fail and every battle is not worth fighting.

Then comes the Prince Charming in her life who assumed his lady love was always right and stronger than him .He started depending on her emotionally and thought her to be the strong one .She was happy when her lover gave her what her family had always given her ..appreciation for her every action.Life was happy for them but what went wrong was neither the father nor the lover really understand the girl was just like any other person who had insecurities and needed assurance which they failed to give her .

Since the girl had the habit of excelling in everything she chose wrong battles to fight and never openly accepted she needed help .In the end the lover was dissappointed that the girl who he thought as strong never stood for their relationship and the girl was shattered as she for the first time lost her battle and was tired of fighting.If the girl had shouted for help at right time or if the father had assured he it's ok to fail and will be still be loved or if the lover was sensitive enough to indentify the real girl behind the strong women the story would have different ending ...



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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: dlavanya

I am not asking Dev to move out or leave ishwari /... but he needs to make sure he makes it clear that she cant not make decisions for him or on his behalf. I am sure she wont try to kill herslf for this. If he finds that she is suicidal then he needs to get her psychiatrist and help her with proper counseling.[





Dev has already made this clear several times, hasn't he? How much more straightforward can one be?Ishwari is a very stubborn woman and extremely shrewd. She uses her emotions and acts innocent to get away with anything. She is an amazing character!!! How can anyone be sure that Ishwari won't try to kill herself? She did it accidentally pre-leap leading to the leads break-up. But, Dev is stronger now and he is a very protective father. His new role would overcome his weakness as a son and that's where the Creatives would triumph. Dev would succeed as a father where Ishwari failed as a mother. 😃 It was made pretty clear by Ishwari that she was interested only in Suhana, but Dev wants his family- Sonakshi and Suhana. Now the battle is between Ishwari's emotions and Dev's tactics. Who would outwit the other would be the winner!



-Rekha
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Posted: 8 years ago
Gosh! Don't know where to start...with people fighting for Dev and people fighting for Sona.. As far as I'm concerned I'm always team Devakshi and I can see that both are flawed. As far as expectations of Dev and Sona when they went into marriage is concerned - they both set high expectations from each other going into it and that's where they made the biggest blunder. I went into my marriage with no expectations and my hubby too and we are happily married for 14 years now. Not to say we have our ups and downs but we came into the marriage with zero expectations. As we go along we have our own set of expectations and it's still evolving. But I guess if Dev and Sona had gone into it without any expectations then we wouldn't have KRPKAB now would we? 😆 it also helped my mum-in-law is not a wacko like IShwari 😆 . And what's with Dev not being rude outright with his mom? His basic or core character is being a devoted son right? Realistically, how can you just throw aside your mum like that? Isn't his knowledge that his mum is not God a great improvement? His blinders are off and he knows that his mother and his family are not concerned about his happiness. I don't know if I'm getting my point across but he clearly sees how his mother is still fixated on his daughter and is totally against Sona even after she sees Dev's total misery. I believe Dev is now onto her tactics and that ingrained devotion does not let let him literally knock sense into her. I peeped into the forum after last night's episode and everyone is still about Dev not standing up for Sona. But in my opinion in subtle ways he is doing it.

Also the makers made it clear at the launch of the show that it is about the journey of a woman from being a good mother (Ishwari is not in my opinion) to a good mum-in-law. For that Sona has to come back to Ishwari nivas(please don't crucify me - hear me out). I think that is where we are headed - that Dev and Sona reunite and together they set her right unlike before. If Iswari is redeemed before they reunite won't that end KRPKAB ? I believe that we heard that the show is not ending so soon. This is all my idea and as we all know this show is unpredictable. My immediate anticipation is how Dev and Sona will reunite. On this note people are going for Dev's blood as to how he could say that his maqsad is only Soha!!! If we know Dev Dixit by now we should know that he does impulsive things and shoots his mouth off and above all he is crazy about Sona. So it's all talk and no action with regards to this. Even know with all his so called anger he would willing surrender himself in her arms if he can see a glimmer of the same from her side. But we should be happy that when they reunite it not based on feelings but understanding and love. I rambled quite a bit but to put a full stop to this all I can say is keep watching this beautiful show with an open mind and let the makers tell their story.

P.S: I can see Dev is going to be a good father unlike Iswari as he's already put his child's needs before his own. That itself is a sign of redemption. Change is a coming and it might not be at a pace we want but it it will happen. Also regarding evil people winning all the time, realistically the wicked in our world always flourish don't they? But they will get their dues at the right time. Patience is the key.

P.P.S : I'm a tamilian but I can understand Hindi very well. ISO etimes watch this show with my hubby and last night watched the episode where Dev realized that Soha is his daughter. Don't know why, but that episode had subtitles and girls and few guys here let me tell you he was moved. I felt so proud to be a fan of this show.

P.P.P.S : it annoys me that I can see the episodes on YouTube only 48 hrs after it has aired. I'm in Singapore is it the same in other parts of the world?
Edited by Looneygirl - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Danseuse



Dev has already made this clear several times, hasn't he? How much more straightforward can one be?Ishwari is a very stubborn woman and extremely shrewd. She uses her emotions and acts innocent to get away with anything. She is an amazing character!!! How can anyone be sure that Ishwari won't try to kill herself? She did it accidentally pre-leap leading to the leads break-up. But, Dev is stronger now and he is a very protective father. His new role would overcome his weakness as a son and that's where the Creatives would triumph. Dev would succeed as a father where Ishwari failed as a mother. 😃 It was made pretty clear by Ishwari that she was interested only in Suhana, but Dev wants his family- Sonakshi and Suhana. Now the battle is between Ishwari's emotions and Dev's tactics. Who would outwit the other would be the winner!



-Rekha



I sincerely hope that I have not been wrong in reading that Ishwari's bubble of god complex will break and you are correct. Otherwise there seems to be no point of the whole story.
Edited by areeba_blossom - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I think this time more than Ishwari , Bijoy will be against Devakshi reunion.Coz he has his very valid reasons.Also Jatin is still present in the story and somehow he will put pressure on Sona and Jatins marriage.And as most of the scenes are being recreated in role reversal how many of u think that this time Sona will propose Dev 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
There are two things which are still intact in this story,
First one, ishwari and her innocent question "Maine Kya Kiya?". We can wake up a person who is really sleeping but how to wake up a person who pretends like sleeping. Here he is having two solutions, One to leave her and live his life happily or getting some medical help for her mental illness, Two, wait for the change patiently. Going by the theme of the show he can't leave her and live his life happily and I don't think makers have enough guts to address her condition as medical illness. So only option is to wait for the positive change in her character patiently.

Second one, the way they play with Dev's character left right and centre as per their needs. Sometimes to make Sona mahaan and some times to make ishwari insaan. In both the cases, I can only feel pity for his character. I was not able to connect with yesterday's episode, one side I am seeing a birth certificate without father name and on the other side I am seeing a mother who is saying she wants her kid to experience love from both her parents. Whether it's her genuine intentions with illogical approach or ishwari's foolishness filled with selfishness, at the end he is the one who lost everything. There was a wonderful dialogue by Sona where she said even today she is proving herself but if we see in that scene he is the one who is proving himself and how smartly cv's converted that scene to gain sympathy for Sona's character with a single dialogue is really prize worthy. Smart move from cv's. I feel yesterday's Dev-sona scene as well as the flash back both were forcefully inserted to justify Sona's character for hiding kid from her father where viewers were questioning her morality and also to tone down the bitterness in her character where again viewers were questioning why she is filled with so much of bitterness even after having such a wonderful family.

Coming to the Dev-ishwari confrontation scene, as usual I didn't had any expectations so I don't have any disappointments. Till makers stop presenting her innocent face with Maine Kya Kiya dialogue I don't think there will be any positive progress in terms of their equations in this story.
Edited by LiveLife321 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: LiveLife321

There are two things which are still intact in this story,

First one, ishwari and her innocent question "Maine Kya Kiya?". We can wake up a person who is really sleeping but how to wake up a person who pretends like sleeping. Here he is having two solutions, One to leave her and live his life happily or getting some medical help for her mental illness, Two, wait for the change patiently. Going by the theme of the show he can't leave her and live his life happily and I don't think makers have enough guts to address her condition as medical illness. So only option is to wait for the positive change in her character patiently.

Second one, the way they play with Dev's character left right and centre as per their needs. Sometimes to make Sona mahaan and some times to make ishwari insaan. In both the cases, I can only feel pity for his character. I was not able to connect with yesterday's episode, one side I am seeing a birth certificate without father name and on the other side I am seeing a mother who is saying she wants her kid to experience love from both her parents. Whether it's her genuine intentions with illogical approach or ishwari's foolishness filled with selfishness, at the end he is the one who lost everything. There was a wonderful dialogue by Sona where she said even today she is proving herself but if we see in that scene he is the one who is proving himself and how smartly cv's converted that scene to gain sympathy for Sona's character with a single dialogue is really prize worthy. Smart move from cv's. I feel yesterday's Dev-sona scene as well as the flash back both were forcefully inserted to justify Sona's character for hiding kid from her father where viewers were questioning her morality and also to tone down the bitterness in her character where again viewers were questioning why she is filled with so much of bitterness even after having such a wonderful family.

Coming to the Dev-ishwari confrontation scene, as usual I didn't had any expectations so I don't have any disappointments. Till makers stop presenting her innocent face with Maine Kya Kiya dialogue I don't think there will be any positive progress in terms of their equations in this story.

I am fearing the same thing they have not changed Dev's character much he still can't question his Maa, loves Sona like a maniac but won't stand up for her nor can see her moving on with some one else 😕 I think they are taking turns to make us sympathies with character first it was Sona now Ishwari and then it will be Dev 😆 I m really eager to see how will Devakshi reunite without any external influence 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: LiveLife321

There are two things which are still intact in this story,

First one, ishwari and her innocent question "Maine Kya Kiya?". We can wake up a person who is really sleeping but how to wake up a person who pretends like sleeping. Here he is having two solutions, One to leave her and live his life happily or getting some medical help for her mental illness, Two, wait for the change patiently. Going by the theme of the show he can't leave her and live his life happily and I don't think makers have enough guts to address her condition as medical illness. So only option is to wait for the positive change in her character patiently.

Second one, the way they play with Dev's character left right and centre as per their needs. Sometimes to make Sona mahaan and some times to make ishwari insaan. In both the cases, I can only feel pity for his character. I was not able to connect with yesterday's episode, one side I am seeing a birth certificate without father name and on the other side I am seeing a mother who is saying she wants her kid to experience love from both her parents. Whether it's her genuine intentions with illogical approach or ishwari's foolishness filled with selfishness, at the end he is the one who lost everything. There was a wonderful dialogue by Sona where she said even today she is proving herself but if we see in that scene he is the one who is proving himself and how smartly cv's converted that scene to gain sympathy for Sona's character with a single dialogue is really prize worthy. Smart move from cv's. I feel yesterday's Dev-sona scene as well as the flash back both were forcefully inserted to justify Sona's character for hiding kid from her father where viewers were questioning her morality and also to tone down the bitterness in her character where again viewers were questioning why she is filled with so much of bitterness even after having such a wonderful family.

Coming to the Dev-ishwari confrontation scene, as usual I didn't had any expectations so I don't have any disappointments. Till makers stop presenting her innocent face with Maine Kya Kiya dialogue I don't think there will be any positive progress in terms of their equations in this story.


I second u Livelife on exactly the points of my confusion regarding Sona behaviour..n to justify her..the scene was inserted ... it didnot make sense seeing the birthcertificate n the initial talks she shared with her daughter after postleap which was contradictory...I m neither team Dev nor Sona but as a neutral viewer who is trying to understand the genuine intentions of both these characters ..Mre than Dev,i find Sonas reasoning n approach foolish...To elevate the character of Sona,Dev is played down n as the accusations were fired to Her regarding hiding Sohas truth...the same way many had been questioning n branding him with new names 😆😆where was Dev for Sona these many yrs?? I wish Cvs play fair here .. ..It would be interesting if he was the initial investor in her startup or still is n never led her n family down by roaming homeless on the streets!!

INITIALLY Both Had taken steps towards their love,to acknowledge their lives without each other n wanted to reconcile at one point of time ...n tats wat i wnt to see!If Sona had come with soha then Dev was also not left behind in this regard. .. A true genuine Devakshi fans want to see this..



Edited by mehraan - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I can't say if Ishwari needs medical or therapeutic intervention. The makers have hinted but I am not sure. She comes across as a person who moulds and manipulates situations and people to get certain results.

Dev had already been embarrassed by her sona is marrying jatin lie recently. Thus the phone call to IN put him on the back foot with Sona.

He realised he had rushed in with soha and has sensibly decided to take it easy. Because he has decided that soha will come to him when soha is ready. That is why he backed off. Not because of what sonakshi said to him

As for sonakshi's attempt 5.5 years ago. Destiny played a huge role. It was badly planned. It had the undertones of the cheque-rerurn scenario.

Where Dev really impressed me is, he is telling his mother. "So what if you didn't know that sonakshi had come with soha. The point is you asked her to leave and to never come back. " This for me is the strongest evidence that he has never looked at sonakshi as a person who will give him a child.

He placed both his love and his progeny in the same place. He regretted losing them both due to deciet and lies.

How Dev will deal with sonakshi is yet to be seen


Edited by thedramaqueen - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: LiveLife321

I was not able to connect with yesterday's episode, one side I am seeing a birth certificate without father name and on the other side I am seeing a mother who is saying she wants her kid to experience love from both her parents. Whether it's her genuine intentions with illogical approach or ishwari's foolishness filled with selfishness, at the end he is the one who lost everything. There was a wonderful dialogue by Sona where she said even today she is proving herself but if we see in that scene he is the one who is proving himself and how smartly cv's converted that scene to gain sympathy for Sona's character with a single dialogue is really prize worthy. Smart move from cv's. I feel yesterday's Dev-sona scene as well as the flash back both were forcefully inserted to justify Sona's character for hiding kid from her father where viewers were questioning her morality and also to tone down the bitterness in her character where again viewers were questioning why she is filled with so much of bitterness even after having such a wonderful family.


This is an excellent observation, Latha, and one that has really got me thinking, especially the dialogue in bold. Dev made a lot of msitakes during their marriage, and Sona did have to face a lot of hardship (so why not pinpoint those things?), but one thing he never did was doubt her word. I am struggling to think of even one instance where he believed someone else over Sona and she was forced to gather proof to show him the truth. I am happy to be corrected if anyone can think of one. In fact, this is a trope taken from the usual formula of desi soaps -- the hero believes everyone except his own wife and she is forced to gather solid proof. It felt more like a trigger for this knee-jerk girl power feeling than a genuine dialogue. This is my reading if the writers are being lazy.

But if I believe in the writers, I can also read this into Sona's character. She has a tendency to narrativise her life according to known frame stories. When Dev and she got together, it was the prince charming fairytale, and now that they split, her new frame is one where she was the heroic underdog victim in an oppressive sasural. It seems perfectly in character that she would absorb the typical stories around her to construct this narrative as well. In addition, having those boarding passes was a very clever move on Sona's part. She knew that Dev had every right to question whether she had actually come 5.5 years ago, because her attempt to contact him was so flimsy. So she kept the proof and used it to turn the whole thing on him -- you never trusted me so I had to save these boarding passes.

I am not sure this makes much sense, but I believe the show is functioning on two levels. One level is a simple reading, taking the show at face value, where Sona and the Boses are heroes and Dev and the Dixit villains. For those who don't want to put too much thought into it (majority of the soap-watching audience), they show enough to make the show enjoyable from this perspective. The second layer, between the lines, is where a lot of the complexity lies. This layer makes it enjoyable for viewers like us who enjoy obsreving those things which are left unsaid but are strongly implied. I see this happen with a lot of more sensitive shows on Indian TV. S1 had a lot less double-speak, but S2, they are playing with serial tropes much more explicitly. What remains to be seen is, to what end? Are they trying to make this show more mainstream, are they trying to challenge these tropes, both? What I can say, is that they are leaving a lot unsaid in order that multiple audiences can access and enjoy the story.

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