Slapping doesn't always mean violence!!! - Page 7

Originally posted by: braveheartdoc

Sorry to butt in Reemz but if 20 plus people like a post does that mean we're all justifying the slaps? Liking a post means to appreciate the effort the TM has made into making a post and I dont think she doesnt deserve this appreciation. She has put forward her views in a very well presented way and I personally loved to read it so I liked it.

If you dont agree doesnt mean you cant appreciate someones efforts...but yes that again is my pov😊

Well I personally only like a post if I agree with the sentiments.

There was no need to make a topic defending slapping. Period! Talk about the scene but don’t give scenarios especially involving kids. Don’t get so carried away for your love of the show and characters that you bring in reality on a sensitive topic.

Abuse, and violence are very heavy terms used very loosely these days that the actual victims of abuse are trivialized.

I wrote this post earlier but thought better not post this. However seeing the responses here I feel obliged to address this issue of abuse and equating single random slaps as abuse as opposed to so many OTHER forms of ABUSE that have occurred in this serial. Physical violence is not the only form of abuse used against some one, and nor is it more damaging than any other form of abuse. We as humans' do many wrong actions towards others. A person can be greatly damaged and abused and hurt without the use of a single act of physical violence.

Not each and every instance of anger is justified and NEVER any physical act of violence towards another person is justified, SAME AS ANY OTHER WRONG WE COMMIT TOWARDS OTHERS. The only times such an act is justified is when the other person had done the same to you too.

ALL acts that infringe on the human rights of another person are unjustified. How wrong some action are depends on the magnitude of the act and the impact it has on the person at the receiving end. But we have law and order to give us a guide on how bigger a deal some actions are as opposed to others.

We as humans are capable of each and every vile act a person can commit given the freedom and will to do so. Over time the more use of such acts without check and retrospection and an environment to check our actions in the form of other societal checks and balances like family, religion, cultural norms, and institutions like law and order; anyone could end up being an abuser in any form.

Having said that, we still are mere humans and sometimes our control over emotions does waver and we do many things that are wrong and unjustified. verbally abusing people, emotionally damaging people, belittling people, out of anger, envy pride or what ever may have bigger impacts on someone than a single act of violence.

As humans we can't pretend random slaps anywhere on the body of another person does not occur at times. Nor can we pretend that with our words and actions we hurt others that result in great damage to others. So lets not sit on the high horse if we never slapped someone in life and pretend we are better off because of that. We still do many acts that could or have caused harm to others due to no fault of their own. The impact and magnitude of the damage caused to the wronged person is the measure of HOW DISGUSTING an act is. Not whether we engaged in an act of physical violence.

Real or reel, wrong is wrong. And if great wrongs are not addressed whether real or reel it would be called out and SHOULD be called out. Anu, Pre Mohini, Moloy slapping others was wrong and unjustified. It should be called out.

But till date the greatest wrongs that has been committed as per current human societal standards, in this serial that has NOT been addressed by the show is taking advantage of a vulnerable young girl and trapping her in marriage and 2 attempted counts of murder. Every other such acts of vile and disgusting behavior has been addressed in the show and called out and punished.

Originally posted by: IFLove

Did I write slapping is necessary? Really? I don't find that in my post. I have just listed out certain scenarios when people happen to slap. That's it. It is necessary or not, right or wrong, I haven't commented on it at all. Yes, there's one scenario I guess where I have written that u r left with no option and slapping is necessary. I have seen such cases in real life and I don't find anything wrong it it. Apart from that, I haven't written necessary anywhere. Please re-read and then comment. My post was very much keeping reality and fiction apart. In fact, what triggered me to write this post itself was that in real life, just one slap doesn't amount to abuse, violence or anything and here I saw people being hyper because it was claimed that they r showing physical abuse on TV. Well, to each their own, for u one slap might be abuse, for me it is not. Simple. If hundred posts on justifying a blackmail can be made, I m sure I can make one post in favour of innocent or unintentional slapping.

whats this?

‘U slap when it is just needed at that time because the other person is too adamant to listen to you and going on a wrong path’

I’ve never had to resort to slapping even when someone isn’t listening to me. You argue, you don’t slap! You even brought in children.

Yes it is too sensitive and yes you should’ve stuck to the show.

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

Wow. Classic case of 'because i wasn't affected it makes it okay and not problematic'. Well,well,well. What you are talking about here is a conditioning. People are conditioned to think physically striking someone on the face esp their children or spouses to keep them in line is for their own good. I would love to know which culture this is,cause Am Indian and its certainly not in my culture. Infact schools in India are now counselling parents and teachers to not do this because of the long term psychological effects and conditioning it results.

Even I m an Indian too and I see this as normal thing my culture. Thankfully I didn't belong to a school filled with students or parents who would need counseling. In spite of a few slaps from my parents or teachers, my school is one of the most reputed one and my parents are always praised by people from different cultures for being one of the best parents for bringing up a very cultured girl and I m proud of that today.

Well, I think we should stop here. I didn't question ur culture, u don't have a right to question mine too. It's better if we accept that there r different cultures and all r right in their own places. Questioning someone's personal life or opinions isn't allowed on the forum, is it?

Originally posted by: _charu_

I dont agree to it , still u said it nicely ...

I still feel that it was moh that's why everyone is enjoying the slap ...tomorrow if prerna slaps komo that will also be justified ...anurag slapping komo was also cheered ...moh slapping pre was so wrong on so many levels ...things can be sorted out without slapping ..and let's not compare this with a mother and her child . A child has to be slapped sometimes to discipline them although,incessant slapping will serve no purpose but make them more stubborn....nowdays I am hearing complaints from the mothers more that when teachers used to slap children, it was a better time...and children , thy start thinking it's normal when its repeated over a period of time..its quite humiliating to anyone otherwise...may be I can't slap nor take it (anyone slapping anyone in real life ) may be that's why I cant see it that way..it should not be compared to abuse also..and violence..that's on a different level

Charu i understand ur perspective. I wud say any act is abuse when perpetrator is at the advantageous position and exploits tht advantage whereas the victim is a weakling who is left with no choice but to let go of self respect and keep putting up with the trash thrown their way. And neither moloy is an exploitator nor moh any weakling. So i dont see this as an act of abuse.

No i will nt compare this with child n parent equation. But trust me, being in teaching fraternity... I hv realized tht u hv all kinds of people. In every class, there r ppl who r different and i cant treat everyone equally. Some yrs back i was so naive tht i took them on face value... Someone even cooked up a story of open heart surgery... Another case, whr a child lied to parents abt their fees... Another one put a girl's number on a p*rnsite after some dispute... Even counseling fail on them coz they feel they can get away with everything. And i hv come to believe tht such cases need to be dealt with strictness.

So while some r genuinely very sensitive... some understand only consequences. As far as the teacher knows wht line to draw, wht dynamics r at play and respect people's personal boundaries, things can be well sorted.

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Edited. Since I realized it's not right to post personal things just to prove my opinions.

Originally posted by: IFLove

Even I m an Indian too and I see this as normal thing my culture. Thankfully I didn't belong to a school filled with students or parents who would need counseling. In spite of a few slaps from my parents or teachers, my school is one of the most reputed one and my parents are always praised by people from different cultures for being one of the best parents for bringing up a very cultured girl and I m proud of that today.

Well, I think we should stop here. I didn't question ur culture, u don't have a right to question mine too. It's better if we accept that there r different cultures and all r right in their own places. Questioning someone's personal life or opinions isn't allowed on the forum, is it?

Like I said conditioning. And If it's not allowed then you shouldn't bring culture in here in the first place. To say slapping is okay and a cultural thing,well people would ask what culture it is where it's okay to do that. And no,cultural differences don't justify hitting your child. Parenting can be done equally well without hitting your child.

And again,if that @BOLD is not allowed then you shouldn't bring your personal life and your experiences to justify anything vile. Then you are responsible for opening the floodgates of questioning. Hope that's clear.

Originally posted by: Reemz11

whats this?

‘U slap when it is just needed at that time because the other person is too adamant to listen to you and going on a wrong path’

I’ve never had to resort to slapping even when someone isn’t listening to me. You argue, you don’t slap! You even brought in children.

Yes it is too sensitive and yes you should’ve stuck to the show.

The level of audacity here to justify slapping..its insane. In the OG post they even use 'latho ke bhooth bato se nahin mante' if I read correctly. Just imagine that. To think it's okay to go on slapping people around if they don't listen to you... Wow.

Originally posted by: SheAish

Abuse, and violence are very heavy terms used very loosely these days that the actual victims of abuse are trivialized.

I wrote this post earlier but thought better not post this. However seeing the responses here I feel obliged to address this issue of abuse and equating single random slaps as abuse as opposed to so many OTHER forms of ABUSE that have occurred in this serial. Physical violence is not the only form of abuse used against some one, and nor is it more damaging than any other form of abuse. We as humans' do many wrong actions towards others. A person can be greatly damaged and abused and hurt without the use of a single act of physical violence.

Not each and every instance of anger is justified and NEVER any physical act of violence towards another person is justified, SAME AS ANY OTHER WRONG WE COMMIT TOWARDS OTHERS. The only times such an act is justified is when the other person had done the same to you too.

ALL acts that infringe on the human rights of another person are unjustified. How wrong some action are depends on the magnitude of the act and the impact it has on the person at the receiving end. But we have law and order to give us a guide on how bigger a deal some actions are as opposed to others.

We as humans are capable of each and every vile act a person can commit given the freedom and will to do so. Over time the more use of such acts without check and retrospection and an environment to check our actions in the form of other societal checks and balances like family, religion, cultural norms, and institutions like law and order; anyone could end up being an abuser in any form.

Having said that, we still are mere humans and sometimes our control over emotions does waver and we do many things that are wrong and unjustified. verbally abusing people, emotionally damaging people, belittling people, out of anger, envy pride or what ever may have bigger impacts on someone than a single act of violence.

As humans we can't pretend random slaps anywhere on the body of another person does not occur at times. Nor can we pretend that with our words and actions we hurt others that result in great damage to others. So lets not sit on the high horse if we never slapped someone in life and pretend we are better off because of that. We still do many acts that could or have caused harm to others due to no fault of their own. The impact and magnitude of the damage caused to the wronged person is the measure of HOW DISGUSTING an act is. Not whether we engaged in an act of physical violence.

Real or reel, wrong is wrong. And if great wrongs are not addressed whether real or reel it would be called out and SHOULD be called out. Anu, Pre Mohini, Moloy slapping others was wrong and unjustified. It should be called out.

But till date the greatest wrongs that has been committed as per current human societal standards, in this serial that has NOT been addressed by the show is taking advantage of a vulnerable young girl and trapping her in marriage and 2 attempted counts of murder. Every other such acts of vile and disgusting behavior has been addressed in the show and called out and punished.

Thanks for this comment Aish. Exactly what I wanted to say. Ur first statement was what I m trying to convey but somehow it is being perceived as if I justify slapping every now n then.

Second thing I wanted to say was other abuses too r as serious as slapping. Slapping unnecessarily creates a huge unrest, specially when a woman is slapped, and the rest of the abuses we tend to ignore.

Third thing was about the emotional outburst. Unless u r not slapping someone with an intention to slap, it is not an abuse. Maybe u don't have extreme control on ur emotions and that's the biggest wrong I can see in one time slaps.

And fourth thing was the only time this act is justified when the other person has done the same to you too. If I go slapping around people, u r an abuser. But when after 30+ years of patience, someone forces u to finally slap them for their actions, it is not an abuse. This is the difference why anu or pre or anybody slapping komo will not be defended but moloy slapping mohini "can be" defended.

Originally posted by: dahibhalle

This is just classic whataboutism😆

My posts are not of a Bajaj supporter trolling Anurag fans -if this thread was just about fictional characters Mol and Moh,I wouldn't have bothered.

Domestic violence is an issue I am rather passionate about and I just want everyone reading to be very clear that there is NO justification for a husband slapping his wife or vice- versa at least in civilised societies.

Welcome to KZK 2 Forum. That happens here all the time.

However, calling out whataboutism selectively and as per one's convenience is a choice.

So lets agree to disagree there.

Rest I agree that violence in no form should be condoned not only in civilized societies but across mankind.