Jai's Weakness Won't Be Bani's Fault! - Page 7

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Posted: 19 years ago
#61
whoa simram!!...devils advocate 😉 ..
thats kool stuff.. 😃
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Posted: 19 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: nottygarfield

whoa simram!!...devils advocate 😉 ..
thats kool stuff.. 😃

Thank you notty...and dear if JW is the devil in your terms then by hell I am his advocate😈..aakhir meri legal degree JW ke kaam na aayi toh phir kiss kaam ki re😉

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Posted: 19 years ago
#63
ok... i'm back with my response... well a lil more long one this time....

first things first... Why do u even think that this is a possibilty... we never question Bani's character... we may call her silly ...stupid...but never think of her in such light... she is also living with Pushy her first love... Then why question Munna at all... he has an as pure character as he does...and he's proven it too...
Why do we need him to prove it again n again... as if bechaare ko koi agni parikshaa deni hai...

Ok he was mean ... rude... bad... nasty to her in the begining... but he learn't...he accepted his mistakes... n learn't from them... she did take everything without saying a word... n I hated it when he was bad n nasty to her... but wasn't she at fault too.. kisne kaha tha ki chup chap sab saho... I'm in no way trying to justify what he did ...but isn't it said ... anayyay karne wale se anyay sehne wala bada doshi hota hai...

He learn't tried to make every amend he could... ok he hid the fact that he accidently bumped off her mom... but wasn't it him...who told her about it in the end...

I'm not saying she should forgive him so easily... but Play havoc with his feelings and the feelings of his family... is that correct... I know she has a good intention...but I'm not convinced that the method is correct...

Why is that when it comes to defending Jai ...it is percieved that it is anti Bani... no its not... both of them are caught in the trap of very messed up circumstances...

She knew what she was getting into when she married him...knew it all along that the future held great hardships for her... she even understood his pain...n thats something.. 👏 ...but why is that we are still questioning him...
she has given many tests so far... but he has too... hasn't he...


so lets not question such things yaar.... He's too strong a guy to stoop to such a level... he will never.. do such a thing... she may be cold to him...but he understands... today when his family...evnm her sister is doubting her intentios...he's by her... he has no doubt regarding her... abhi aur kya chahiye...

n as far as Pia is concerned... she was a mistake ... nothing else... and she is his SISTER-in-law... he accepts this fact...she might stoop...but he won't ... he's way too strong n valued for such a thing...


Poo

PS: sorry didn't want to hurt any feelings... I just wrote what I felt...

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Posted: 19 years ago
#64
I feel for Bani...such a poor, confused soul 😭
at one hand, she wants to punish/hurt JW for "killing" her mom and on the other hand, she's doing everything in her power to save him from the clutches of his evil relatives (even if that means destroying her ownself and any possibility of happiness!!)
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Posted: 19 years ago
#65
firstly Thanx MT ...u r too good with compil ation of words and thanx for coming up with open and healthy discussion. its pleasure to read others views too ... will come up with my opinion soon...
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Posted: 19 years ago
#66
OK MT .. here I am ..just got your PM
All I was trying to state in my Thread yesterday is That he Might just succumb to Pia's seduction in his weak Moment .. ok .?. he isnt returning to Her ..NO way is he going to do that . and I am saying this coz .. at this Moment in Time Jai Is very Vulnerable he has realised he loves Bani Like Hell , Misses her Presence , wants her back in His life at any cost and waits every moment, minute of each day for her return ( aww my Poor baby is hurting ...) .. as we saw in the episode yesterday .. the expression on his face when he sees those flowers ..How overjoyed he was then walks to His bedroom ..and Lo and Behold there she was in person .. ( was wondering was his heart Racing ,, by any chance ..?) 😕 anyway going back to Jai seeing bani in their Room .here he is walking on cloud Nine .. all happy , dil Ki dhadkane badi ja Rahi hai .. aapne sajni ke laut ne par Hai and God she slams the door in His Face ..! ..No MT .. Thats not Good .!
and That wasnt the first time she has been giving him the cold shoulder , and rude attitude..yeah he is patiently taking it Now .. But For How Long ..? he is no saint or monk .. besides his exFlame resides in the same House ..she has an agenda .. - She wants him Back and has already commenced putting her desire and Plan into action . ..when she tells him pia wants to support him ..and blh blah ...YES he brushed her off for Now .. , Knowing Pia .she has set her sights on Him .and has a Very Valuable Weapon (Brahmastra )in her Hand - that of Bani loving Pushkar -of course its not true ..as we all Know ..but that will be her Trump Card . which might if the situation Comes , bring jai to our Willing Witch pia . temporarily ..
Now I dont know if that is called a week Moment or Not I dont know.
I know everyone has Full Faith In Jai .so do I , he isnt a loose man who sleeps around coz his wife let him down or had a misunderstanding with her . Sometimes certain situation arise in Life .. and a person finds him self Helpless , confused and Vulnerable looking for Solace .and turn to someone for comfort . i feel Thats what may Happen if bani continues her cold Act .
I know he is a strong man sensible man .. , Knows who he wants to spend the rest of His Life with.even the strongest dynamic men have break downs ..! dont U think ..?

I know in retrospect .. jai has demeaned , humilated snarled, snubbed and mistreated Bani , and we have shed our tears , for bani and reprimanded jai for that in our posts previously ..Then jai and bani were different ..NOW They are In Love with Each other .their Relationship is Different Now. I think even kiran would Forgive Jai her ladla Daamad up In heaven .. ! hey 'Sylvia Brown .' physche . Can u like relate this message to bani That her mom is always around her and wants Bani to stop treating Jai for her accidental death ..I think Thats the Only way Bani will stop .
MT .. I hope i explained my 2 cents .. . i am not good in describing, expalining in detail , deep reltaionships .like jai/Bani 's .
I know its Only a teleserial But jai bani have become Part of our Lives .cant help commenting on their relationship
will Call U .. Though ..
Love
Klue 😊
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Posted: 19 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: Lyani

6 pages of reply already, still here goes my pennyworth.MT you don't 'choose to fall in love ', you FALL in love.
Secondly, yes Bani has had to bear pretty hurtful behaviour frm Jai. Worst being, shouting at her in office in presence of Roshni about her trying to push a false relationship. But he was still reeling from PIa's public jilting and feeling caught in a conspiracy of the sisters. Hasn't he done a lot, almost dying for her sake.Now she is hurting him excessively.Whatever she is planning to do to save him , does that warant hardfaced looks an glaring and uncouth behaviour. How does that help?
Another point- Jai is loving her inspite of all her intolerable actions.
Lyani

Hi Lyani,

Firstly, thanks for the response, this is much more than I ever expected! Coming back to Jai reeling from Pia's public jilting....Don't you think that Jai having caused Bani's Mother's death is a far greater issue? This is something like Honor Vs Life! Depends on what is more important for an individual! And Bani is uncouth towards Jai? That is news to me...She is cold, she harsh and she is aloof, but at the same times she is extremely repentant despite having solid reasons to do what she is doing. If you term Bani's current behaviour as uncouth, then what words are you going to chose for what Jai was meting out to Bani...Calling her the choicest of abuses, dememaning her, degrading her, insulting her at any given point...accusing her without a shred of guilt.....I am not justifying Bani's current action here, but if we have to get into a comparision mode, then what Bani is doing to Jai is not even a fraction of what he did to her!

So what if Jai is in love with Bani....I still think that part of his whole, "I want Bani back" and "I am so willing to do anything for her" has a lot to do with the fact that she is carrying his heir, the child he so desperately wants. I am not undermining his love for Bani nor am I saying that there is anything wrong with a Father wanting his child, but Bani loved him when he has nothing to offer to her....Not love, Not Companionship, Not security, Not respect, Not Family, Not a future, Not even a proper marriage! She loved him despite all this.......Let us see how Jai reacts if Bani is to lose the child, that will be the litmus test for the depth of his love, not for Bani, but for the viewers to see!

My two cents,

MT

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Posted: 19 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: klueless

OK MT .. here I am ..just got your PM
All I was trying to state in my Thread yesterday is That he Might just succumb to Pia's seduction in his weak Moment .. ok .?. he isnt returning to Her ..NO way is he going to do that . and I am saying this coz .. at this Moment in Time Jai Is very Vulnerable he has realised he loves Bani Like Hell , Misses her Presence , wants her back in His life at any cost and waits every moment, minute of each day for her return ( aww my Poor baby is hurting ...) .. as we saw in the episode yesterday .. the expression on his face when he sees those flowers ..How overjoyed he was then walks to His bedroom ..and Lo and Behold there she was in person .. ( was wondering was his heart Racing ,, by any chance ..?) 😕 anyway going back to Jai seeing bani in their Room .here he is walking on cloud Nine .. all happy , dil Ki dhadkane badi ja Rahi hai .. aapne sajni ke laut ne par Hai and God she slams the door in His Face ..! ..No MT .. Thats not Good .!
and That wasnt the first time she has been giving him the cold shoulder , and rude attitude..yeah he is patiently taking it Now .. But For How Long ..? he is no saint or monk .. besides his exFlame resides in the same House ..she has an agenda .. - She wants him Back and has already commenced putting her desire and Plan into action . ..when she tells him pia wants to support him ..and blh blah ...YES he brushed her off for Now .. , Knowing Pia .she has set her sights on Him .and has a Very Valuable Weapon (Brahmastra )in her Hand - that of Bani loving Pushkar -of course its not true ..as we all Know ..but that will be her Trump Card . which might if the situation Comes , bring jai to our Willing Witch pia . temporarily ..
Now I dont know if that is called a week Moment or Not I dont know.
I know everyone has Full Faith In Jai .so do I , he isnt a loose man who sleeps around coz his wife let him down or had a misunderstanding with her . Sometimes certain situation arise in Life .. and a person finds him self Helpless , confused and Vulnerable looking for Solace .and turn to someone for comfort . i feel Thats what may Happen if bani continues her cold Act .
I know he is a strong man sensible man .. , Knows who he wants to spend the rest of His Life with.even the strongest dynamic men have break downs ..! dont U think ..?

I know in retrospect .. jai has demeaned , humilated snarled, snubbed and mistreated Bani , and we have shed our tears , for bani and reprimanded jai for that in our posts previously ..Then jai and bani were different ..NOW They are In Love with Each other .their Relationship is Different Now. I think even kiran would Forgive Jai her ladla Daamad up In heaven .. ! hey 'Sylvia Brown .' physche . Can u like relate this message to bani That her mom is always around her and wants Bani to stop treating Jai for her accidental death ..I think Thats the Only way Bani will stop .
MT .. I hope i explained my 2 cents .. . i am not good in describing, expalining in detail , deep reltaionships .like jai/Bani 's .
I know its Only a teleserial But jai bani have become Part of our Lives .cant help commenting on their relationship
will Call U .. Though ..
Love
Klue 😊

Hi Klue, My post was basically initiated after reading your post!😃 So, well thanks for the inspiration, just look at the stupendous and brilliant response to the Post!👏

Coming back to Jai living under the same roof with Pia, I won't think much of it. This is the same Jai, who reeling under the effect of alchohol didn't just brush Roshni off but actually told her that he might be drunk, but not dead......Jai is way too strong, moralistic and self-respecting a man to ever fall for any of Pia's scheme, intentional or unintentional...Nothing will or rather nothing should make him dither from his committment to Bani!

I am not saying that he should go crawling to Bani, his actions right now are just fine, but at the same time, come what the circumstances, Pia should be a closed chapter for him....even if Bani does leave him and go! Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Jai with another female lead, as long as it is not Pia....Not because I hate Pia (which I do, btw) but simply cause, it would just not be the JW we know and love him to be!

Rushing off for the update now!

Love,

MT

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

Hey, nice to hear only the supportive voices now...I guess the Brickbatters will be joining shortly afterwards... 😆

But yes, as all of you have put in so well, and quoting Pinky's words, "We are ultimately responsible for the choice we make in our life and it is upto his to keep up with them, come what the situation."

In fact, MT, in yesterday's U.S. episode, Bani says the same thing to Rano. She says, "Hum zindagi main jo faislay karte hain, unko nibhana bhi padta hai."

Hey, all Harry Potter Fans here will remember Professor Dumbledore's famous words to Harry, "It is the choices we make, that decide our life...."

Harry Potter fan here!! I remember exactly how that conversation went between Harry and Dumbledore. It makes perfect sense. If JW had told Bani that he had accidentally caused her mother's death a bit before this whole park road fiasco, then I am sure their relationship would be much better than it is now. But then again, Bani is not helping matters by doing the EXACT same thing to JW that he did to her. She's hiding something from him which is very important for him to know. Both of them are in this sticky mess because of the decisions that they took and the choices they made, whether right or wrong.

I have never thought of Jai and Bani as being victim of circumstances...They have always had a choice and they have always done what their hearts dictated...From marrying one another to consummating their relationship, to the decision of having the child, despite their estrangement! For two people, who have such strong characters and who are so firm in their thoghts and value systems, nothing can or rather nothing should distract them from what they believe in.

I have to agree with you on this one. Both of them are portrayed as strong individuals who take control of their own lives and do not blame fate or circumstances. I think we only blame qismat when we don't have the courage to say ,"Yes, it was my fault." JW, thankfully, has earned a whole lot of my respect because he was brave enough to say to his wife, "Yes, your mother's death did happen because of me. " It was an ACCIDENT but still he admits that he had something to do with it. Not many people have the guts to say that.

As Bani tells Raashi, that when you love someone with such depths, you also get the inner strentgh to do everything you can for that person's happiness.....I believe that Jai also loves Bani with the same depth and her apparent hatred and coldness will never become a barrier for his emotions and feelings towards her!

Pia be damned! 😡

Hear hear!

MT

PS: The Flowers were, indeed, kept by Bani! 😃

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Posted: 19 years ago
#70
Very good Analysis MT. I fully agree with your view. 100%

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