Jai's Weakness Won't Be Bani's Fault! - Page 6

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Posted: 19 years ago
#51
Good discussion going here and I am taking your side on this as I do feel that if Jai ever did succumb to Pia's overt ways, then it truly will be his OWN fault and not Bani's
I really doubt if this will happen as atm Jai is in complete awe of Bani regardless of whatever she is doing and has complete trust in her so don't think needs any "distraction" I feel if Pia ever tried to make a bold move she will be in for a big "chaata" as he did assure Bani and us when he brought Pushkar to patchup that he is not in favour of breaking their marraige at all but would like them to sort out their problem.
As for Bani, I am sure in her small ways (like the lillies) has already proven to Jai that she still has a soft spot for him and that she is being cold for a "reason" -which I sure the creatives will not drag too much as this show does move quick in a way.
Lets hope next week gets it going.
So I am in all favor of Bani in this case and agree that she has all rights to be a bit "unresponsive" to Jai for her reasons and he too should "put up" with it.
(Hope I make sense 😛 )
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Posted: 19 years ago
#52
6 pages of reply already, still here goes my pennyworth.MT you don't 'choose to fall in love ', you FALL in love.
Secondly, yes Bani has had to bear pretty hurtful behaviour frm Jai. Worst being, shouting at her in office in presence of Roshni about her trying to push a false relationship. But he was still reeling from PIa's public jilting and feeling caught in a conspiracy of the sisters. Hasn't he done a lot, almost dying for her sake.Now she is hurting him excessively.Whatever she is planning to do to save him , does that warant hardfaced looks an glaring and uncouth behaviour. How does that help?
Another point- Jai is loving her inspite of all her intolerable actions.
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Posted: 19 years ago
#53
Actually, I feel for Jai yaar. When he was indifferent towards Bani, Bani understood the reasons for his actions and she willingly went through or tolerated his insults and all. She also said that I am willing to go through this coz I know that you [Mr Walia] get the satisfaction of hurting me because of my sister's actions. In this case, Bani is a bit too harsh. The silent treatment hurts most. If she had screamed at him, yelled at him and called him names, he would have understood all but she has gone quiet, serene and intense. She's is like the calmness before the storm, the eye of the hurricane which is so confusing to Jai. He has no problems in handing over the property to Bani but he is hurt by the way or the manner in which Bani decided to claim that. Jai also understands that Bani is unable to come to terms with him being her mother's killer but she has decided to punish him in the manner that is hard to digest. Bani could have easily re-opened the case and seen that justice is done to her mother by punishing the culprit but she chooses to punish Jai by keeping him away from his child. Yet still Jai thinks that Bani is doing all this for a reason which only us, the viewers know. He believes so much in Bani and knows/thinks that Bani is not capable of doing such a thing. Aaawwww, such a sweetheart.

Ok, now to Bani, she has justified reasons for her actions but her problem is that she keeps it to herself. She found Raashi to be able enough to confess to about her love for Jai and her intensions of claiming the alimony. She is also discussing things against Raashi's husband to her. knowing the twists in Ekta's series, I wouldn't be surprised if Ranveer comes to know of everything through Raashi. Bani could have very well told Jai that she wants the property and if he is not willing to co-operate then she will go to court. Jai would have shown his normal tantrums in screaming and teeth gritting comments but for the sake of the child, he might have agreed.

All in all, I feel for Jai more at the moment. Even when Bani was being hurt by Jai in the initial stages, I would dislike Bani's quietness and mahanta in being an obedient wife and keeping her mouth shut throughout. Jai has always been the one to say things out whereas Bani has been the one to keep things to herself and then say it to the wrong ones such as Pushkar and Raashi. Raashi in this case might help but Pushkar's closeness might be mis-interpreted by Pia's help.

I don't know anymore if I am making any sense but couldn't help writing whatever came to mind.

BTW, very nice debates 😊
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Posted: 19 years ago
#54
agreed mt but in the hospital when jai faked his death, she said that she cannot live under the same roof with her mother's murderer.!
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Posted: 19 years ago
#55
Hey MT....Why? Ab tuje kis naam se pukarun? 😆 Bani will lead you to wrong path.. 😆

I will echo the sentiments made here that JW is a classy guy and will NEVER fall for Pia... As for Pia I don't trust her and she might just be a tad smarter then Roshni and try to succeed where Roshni failed..

Anyway I have to rush but will say this- Bani's love for Jai has not reached the same level as JAi's love for her.. When is she going to love him for himself? When is she going to see JW as a father of her child ? When is she going to start thinking about her child and how JW is related to him/her rather then how JW is related to Dixit women?

She married and fell in love with JW because of Pia and she endured JW not because she loved but for penance of all that Pia did to him... Fast forward to her current state of confused emotions and as you put it MT "she is being loyal to her mom" by giving him cold snubs..Again her relationship to JW is based on how JW's existence was involved with her bhashanvanti(credit Raaga) mom.

Bani needs to see JW as the man who loves her immensensly and the greatest father her kid could have and start living in the present. But unfortunately she only sees JW as Pia's ex lover and her parents killer. 😭

I am not even going to go into how Bani is justified with her current behaviour towards JW..Diff parameters and diff circimstances, important one being they are in love now which was not the case before...

MT btw , if you do enter politics , do you have to don white sari? 😆 How about a rainbow color sari? 😆

Cheers,
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Posted: 19 years ago
#56
what a fantastic profound discussion.. 😊..
MT this is a very Somerset Maughmish kind of topic..very nice..btw m a big fan or urs and many others who hv given their thots to this topic...

As for me..I cant thk of Jai going back to Pia..he is too strong a character for sth like that...he himself is clearly able to see the difference the two gals have made in his life...unless Bani does a Kashish no and forces him to go with the sister(kashish forced sujal to accept her sister..which i thk is downright dumb)...but the KS creatives have so far refrained from any such extreme melodrama..and have done wots not been done before...gvn our heroine and more importantly our HERO a very very sound and STRONG character.
I stress on the strength character more because Jai is is totally in control...lust and alcohol are above him...he talks even more sense when he has had a peg extra(remember the wise comparison betn Bani and Pia during his tete a tete with Tarun) and totally lack lust(er) attitude with Roshni..and i thk Bani is his strength..
Jai cherishes that special WIRELESS 😃 connection with Bani..hez just too taken with the non vocal FOR YOUR EYES only parlance with her.. 😊 ..ok jokes aside...Jai is indeed connected with Bani on a different level..he knows that..and she does too...wot she didnt know till now was that Jai felt so strongly for her...and thanx to Tarun and Rashi now she knows...

Did u all notice how she regrets..sayn..maine galti ki hai or sth on those lines after Tarun tells her abt JW wanting her to win...
she was fighting the whole thg alone and so she thot...but after the revealation abt Jais intent..she felt him standing beside her all the while...with her
i thk she took it as a ray of hope...and flowers were her way of showing Jai that same ray of hope...that shes with him too..mind and heart...
or thats what i would like to thk..

unless of course Pia the wicked witch tried the lame trick...i sincerely hope not!



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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

Hey, nice to hear only the supportive voices now...I guess the Brickbatters will be joining shortly afterwards... 😆

But yes, as all of you have put in so well, and quoting Pinky's words, "We are ultimately responsible for the choice we make in our life and it is upto his to keep up with them, come what the situation." Hey, all Harry Potter Fans here will remember Professor Dumbledore's famous words to Harry, "It is the choice's we make, that decides our life...."

I have never thought of Jai and Bani as being victim of circumstances...They have always had a choice and they have always done what their hearts dictated...From marrying one another to consummating their relationship, to the decision of having the child, despite their estrangement! For two people, who have such strong characters and who are so firm in their thoghts and value systems, nothing can or rather nothing should distract them from what they believe in.

As Bani tells Raashi, that when you love someone with such depths, you also get the inner strentgh to do everything you can for that person's happiness.....I believe that Jai also loves Bani with the same depth and her apparent hatred and coldness will never become a barrier for his emotions and feelings towards her!

Pia be damned! 😡

MT

PS: The Flowers were, indeed, kept by Bani! 😃

Goodness, MT! So much food for thought and for discussion! I'll try to keep it short as I am sure others will do the discussion more justice...

Basically, I am a JW lover, but as I said in Tisha's post.. I also accept that he has shades of grey and deserves to be slapped from time to time as well. These are his failings.. but whats revealing & genius about his character is that somehow, he redeems himself.

With regards to Bani... we are all ultimately JB shippers. We are frustrated with the angst her path is causing -- and because she's the one essentially in control of the entire situation at present, we are quick to wonder at her motivation and her actions. HOWEVER, i am also endeared to her, as despite it all -- she DOES have such deep love for JW and is working on his behalf. That JW has her in his corner, is his fortune!! That is indisputable...

And as far as the Pia angle is concerned... I have always maintained, that were he to go to Pia -- I would call it quits as far as the JW support. Bani DOES deserve better.. he should know better. Bani's the ONLY one for him. My own furious posting on this topic in the AF and other threads hasnt been because I think JW is some saint and i need to save him from his worst failings... its been about exorcising my own demons... and hoping against hope that sense prevails and he reads Pia as she is -- a confused, childish self-centered wanna-be DIVA gold-digger.

If he goes to her... then he deserves the hell he gets! Just look at Pushky Munna.. see what she's done to him!

So, there you have it.. I think. My love for JW is strong. But I am a JB shipper ALL the way.. and to that end.. anyone who gets in the way of that -- even if its them ... will face 'brickbrats.'

xoxoxo

Soap.

PS: THANK GOD it was Bani who placed the flowers there..... anything else would have been twisted and just plain wrong!

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Posted: 19 years ago
#58
I totally agree with you.. I don't want JAi to get back together with Pia, but if he does then that won't be Bani's fault.. Jay hasn't acted really well with Bani in the beginning, and just cause we want them to be together, and Bani's not going in that direction, we can't blame Bani.. She has feelings and emotions too, and if she doesnt want to spend her life with Jay then that's her choice.. (But we all know that she actually wants too cause she loves him.. She'll only try to protect him cause the sorrow he would get if Bani wouldn't suggest a divorce and alimony would have been much deeper then now.. I hate to see Jay so heartbroken, but everything will be fine in a short time, when he finds out the thruth..) Hopefully!

And to your question: If Jai does end up going back to Pia (Temporarily or Permanently) Will you blame Jai for the same or will you blame Bani? I am not naming Pia here, because she will get battered any which way!
If Jay get together with Pia then it's not at all Bani's fault.. If Jay does soo, then I think it's a little his fault. .Cause he says that what he feels for Bani he doesn't feel the same for Pia, and we all heard the lovely conversation between Tarun and Jay where he compared his feelings for Pia and Bani.. Jay isn't so confused about his feelings that he would end up with Pia again..! As far as I understand Jay's character, he is one of the strong characters.. He wold rather wait for Bani or spend his time alone rather then get back with Pia..

But you never know.. Maybe the circumstances force him to maintain a relationship with Pia.. Or maybe a misunderstading.. Since they seem to be a favourite.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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pheew, good to know that Bani put the flowers there! 😉
Edited by ~Deep~ - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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MT that was an awsome post 👏 and unlike last time when I was ready to drag you to court by sending a bloody subpoena on the basis of committing treason against my JW 😡 I will praise you for writing such saccharine words for my bacha 😳 MT you asked US the question but went ahead and answered it your self, Jai's love for Bani is devine and goes beyond normal love what he feels for Bani he never felt for Pia, as the great JW implemented he got butterflies upon seeing Pia but felt no such thing when Bani was infront of him, a person can get "butterflies" many times like a new job interview, first day of school, marriage etc etc. hence his feelings for Pia were a mere excitement but with Bani he was comfortable and able to open up more, therefore he would never leave Bani for Pia, the love he felt for Pia flew away like the butterflies, he now only considers her a saali, he has no true respect for Pia the lady but instead Pia the sister of his wife.

JW could never stoop so low and perform such a dastardly act, he has said many times that he never wants to hurt Bani so why would he do such a thing when he knows how much pain it will cause her and MT you're right Bani did endure a lot coldness from JW post their marraige but never uttered a word not even to her sisters, she quietly loved and worshipped him and as you also said that now JW is doing the same like a noble knight he is trying to clear every thornful path that comes in Bani's way..he too is now quietly loving and worshipping her

And I agree that Bani has been very benevolent to love JW despite knowing the fact that he had "accidently" killed her mom, but I wish she would also understand that it was after all an accident, he did not intentionally kill her mom..but perhaps she understands that and hence wishes no such evil for him...I just hope the PR raaz can finally be solved for good now 😕

so in conclusion JW will not leave bani and rush to Pia 😉and if so it happend then I will summon Pia and try her for treachery, adultry and for performing proposterous acts of sexual harrassment...The verdict Guilty as charged on several criminal accounts 😡Pia Dixit is hereby sentenced to life imprisionment under JW Rule Criminal Procedure 2.428 😉 of course all under my legal jurisdiction 😈 Case Dismissed without prejudice 😉

Adjudged and Ordered in the chambers of the Honrable Simran1285 JW County Criminal Court Judge, on this day of August 25, 2006 😉
Edited by simran1285 - 19 years ago

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