Jai's Weakness Won't Be Bani's Fault!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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This post is mainly directed to all my Member Friends here who are indicating that Bani's current cold attitude towards Jai will drive him straight in the arms of Pia!

Excuse me? If this is the case, then so be it. Jai deserves someone as shallow, as empty and as selfish as Pia! Remember the countless instances where Jai was not only cold but downright cruel towards Bani, did that drive her into the arms of Pushkar or to Mohan Khandelwal. Forget that, did she even go crying to her sister's complaining about Jai and his attitude towards her? Is this some sort of a notion we have here, that a woman has to put up with all her husband's idiosyncracies and bear and wait like a good wife till he comes round the corner, but if a woman decides to stay away from her husband, for reasons of her own, he has all the rights to go astray from the relationship?

I don't understand why should Love always be a two-sided lane? When Bani was in love with Jai, and he was the least bit bothered about it, we were still singing paens to Jai and saying that Jai has just not realized it and one day he will come around! Why is that now, when supposedly Bani has nothing to do with Jai and he has fallen in love with her, we all desperately want Bani to succumb to his wishes?

When Bani chose to fall in love with Jai, she chose to do it on her own accord, without any notions of ever getting that love reciprocated...Now if Jai has decided to follow the same path, he has also done this of his own accord, with no notions of Bani ever coming back in his life!

Jai has to put up with Bani, her coldness, her taciturn nature, her aloofness, her detachment, her rudeness, even her tantrums! If Jai has truly loved Bani, he has to love her under what ever circumstances...He has to love her when she is even at her worst, he has to love her even when she is apparently breaking his heart into a hundred pieces everyday.....Simply because she has also loved him despite his innumerous faults and failings...and loved without expecting a single thing in return!

As you guys say, following Bani's coldness, if Jai does indeed go straight into Pia's arms, it would only show what a shallow and weak man he is....Somone who is not even sure of his feelings for the woman he loves, someone who cannot wait for her to come around, someone who has to salvage his ego by running to another woman!

But Jai is not like that....He is too strong a character, too principled a man and too firmly entrenched in his moral values and beliefs to ever fall for the traps of a girl like Pia....and most important, he is deeply in love with Bani and hence, even if the whole family turns against her and try and emotionally manipulate him into letting go of Bani, he won't! Jai has ultimately always done what his heart has told him and here also he will follow the same path! I believe in Jai and all that he has stood for till date and if the Creatives show him going against all that he has believed in, then it would be their fault and not Jai Walia's! As Sangeeta's Poem so beautifully quotes, "Love only comes to those who believe in it..." If Jai believes in his love, it will come back to him one day, nothing would be able to stop that! Its really upto him to keep the faith.....and he will for sure!😃

Coming back to Bani, I won't blame Bani for anything, I still think that her not being able to forgive Jai and move on is trivial compared to what she had to go through when she got to know that her husband and the man she loves had actually being responsible for her Mother's death. I think its rather remarkable that despite this truth being known to her, Bani is still doing all that she can, in her own strange ways😕 to help Jai....and acutally confessing that she loves him and will do anything and everything in her power to protect him. Just goes to show that she might be a small towner with a lower-middle class upbringing, but when it comes to character and beliefs, she is the Tops!👏On the same level, if not higher than Jai!

Whatever Bani is doing is of her own sound reasoning, however stupid and silly it might be and most important, she is doing this out of love and nothing else, for the man whom she cares for the most in the World......Even if Jai doesn't understand the thought behind Bani's actions, he has to understand his own emotions and trust his instict that his faith in Bani is not unfounded and he has to follow the path he has chosen, that of being faithful to the woman he loves.....and no amount of roadside distraction should lead him astray!

Basically, this was a Pia battering Post😆, but really, sometimes I feel that we support Jai way too blindly and always are ready to disown and batter Bani, even at the slightest provocation......So, I thought why not chip in today and then get brickbats on her behalf from you guys!😉😆

So my question for you guys is;

If Jai does end up going back to Pia (Temporarily or Permanently) Will you blame Jai for the same or will you blame Bani? I am not naming Pia here, because she will get battered any which way!😆

Sangeeta, Sara, Tisha and all the Other Bani Brigadiers, need your support here, cause we are badly, badly outnumbered by the Jai Defence Front!😆

I can already see my phone ringing and Raaga coming out with a barrage of "Eu Tu Brutus" for me!😉😆

Would love to read your views on this.....

Cheers,

MT

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Good post MT and last one ill answer b4 i go to bed!
i agree with almost the whole thing u wrote!

and to answer - if Jai does end up going back to Pia (Temporarily or Permanently) Will you blame Jai for the same or will you blame Bani?

I will definitly blame Jai for this not bani. we r such a double standard society, everything was fine when bani was under Jai's wrath and hwen bani is doing the same everyone seems to think Bani is wrong in doing so...I DONT THINK SO!
every woman has a right to choose her own destiny and even make decisions in her relationship i guess that what bani is doing and if Jai is not with her then screw that!
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

As you guys say, following Bani's coldness, if Jai does indeed go straight into Pia's arms, it would only show what a shallow and weak man he is....Somone who is not even sure of his feelings for the woman he loves, someone who cannot wait for her to come around, someone who has to salvage his ego by running to another woman!

But Jai is not like that....He is too strong a character, too principled a man and too firmly entrenched in his moral values and beliefs to ever fall for the traps of a girl like Pia....and most important, he is deeply in love with Bani and hence, even if the whole family turns against her and try and emotionally manipulate him into letting go of Bani, he won't! Jai has ultimately always done what his heart has told him and here also he will follow the same path!

Very balanced POV 👏 Yes, though I fear the worst, I do agree that Jai is too dignified, self-conrolled, a person to stray just because someone wants to balm his bruised ego/heart. He didnt go to anyone when Pia left him. (aka Sonali)

Originally posted by: mistletoe

Basically, this was a Pia battering Post😆, but really, sometimes I feel that we support Jai way too blindly and always are ready to disown and batter Bani, even at the slightest provocation......So, I thought why not chip in today and then get brickbats on her behalf from you guys!😉😆

Good luck, MT, esp. for some parts that I havent quoted. Sincerely, all the best.

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Originally posted by: mistletoe

So my question for you guys is;

If Jai does end up going back to Pia (Temporarily or Permanently) Will you blame Jai for the same or will you blame Bani? I am not naming Pia here, because she will get battered any which way!😆

Sangeeta, Sara, Tisha and all the Other Bani Brigadiers, need your support here, cause we are badly, badly outnumbered by the Jai Defence Front!😆

I can already see my phone ringing and Raaga coming out with a barrage of "Eu Tu Brutus" for me!😉😆

Would love to read your views on this.....

Cheers,

MT

Hopefully, tomorrow....I guess Ill be too late, but anyway.

Jojo

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Posted: 19 years ago
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MT,

You are right. If after having experienced Bani he still chooses to go back to Pia, it would say volumes about his brains/heart or the lack of it. No blame can be attached to Bani.

But yes, should there may be no difference in status quo on PR Raaz and Jai indeed did kill Kiran and Bani makes a final break with Jai forever, I would give both Jai and Bani the right to move on, although at the same time I will stop watching KS. If he wants to go back to Pia, so be it provided he tells her about PR Raaz as well.

Rgds

Priyanka
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

But Jai is not like that....He is too strong a character, too principled a man and too firmly entrenched in his moral values and beliefs to ever fall for the traps of a girl like Pia....and most important, he is deeply in love with Bani and hence, even if the whole family turns against her and try and emotionally manipulate him into letting go of Bani, he won't! Jai has ultimately always done what his heart has told him and here also he will follow the same path!

Hence, I won't blame Bani for anything....Whatever she is doing is of her own sound reasoning, however stupid and silly it might be and most important, she is doing this out of love and nothing else, for the man whom she cares for the most in the World......Even if Jai doesn't understand the thought behind Bani's actions, he has to understand his own emotions and trust his instict that his faith in Bani is not unfounded and he has to follow the path he has chosen, that of being faithful to the woman he loves.....and no amount of roadside distraction should lead him astray!

There u said it... he won't do it...its way below his stature...he will support Bani... stand by her no matter what... family accept kare ya na kare.... his heart will never let any such thing happen....IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN....NEVER....

and if he goes to Pia........ well then... I guess atleast I will disown him.... I can't belive I wrote this... .....It will be too much of an act to be defended.... it will be against everything this guy has stood for... SO IT CAN NEVER REALLY HAPPEN...

Such a thing won't be Bani's fault.... it'll be his weakness and he will have to be blamed... blamed nahi totally beaten up black n blue...😡

But I don't see it happening any time...so its cool... aisa nahi hoga...

Poo

Edited by pooja.walia - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

So my question for you guys is;

If Jai does end up going back to Pia (Temporarily or Permanently) Will you blame Jai for the same or will you blame Bani? I am not naming Pia here, because she will get battered any which way!😆

No I will not blame Bani. I believe that each person is finally responsible for the choices he makes and the actions he or she takes as a result of these choices. If he believes that going back to Pia will make him forget what he feels for Bani or the relationship that they have then good luck to him. He will very soon pay the consequences. Like you, I too believe that there is less likelihood of something like this happening because JW is a very strong man with equally strong principles. If he does want to be with someone else he would first set Bani totally free. He knows deep in his heart that Bani has some hiddent agenda as to why she is doing this but he just cannot figure it out.

Sangeeta, Sara, Tisha and all the Other Bani Brigadiers, need your support here, cause we are badly, badly outnumbered by the Jai Defence Front!😆

I can already see my phone ringing and Raaga coming out with a barrage of "Eu Tu Brutus" for me!😉😆

Would love to read your views on this.....

Cheers,

MT

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Well said MT!

If Jai does end up going back to Pia (Temporarily or Permanently) Will you blame Jai for the same or will you blame Bani?

I would stop watching the show and hate Pia and wish her ill. I would dislike Jia but I would try to make myself see the reasoning behind his hook up Pia. I could never hate or blame Jai for his actions, as I can with Bani. I think we women have higher standars for women than men. I might find Bani at fault to some point but I would not totally blame her. The only person I blame is PIA!!!
Edited by punjabi#1 - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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MT, you have finally said it. really, it will seem like i am just repeating whatever you have writen, but i agree 100% with you on this, though most of the other times we do not lokk eye to eye. 😉
I do indeed believe that the white lilies were put by Bani in Jai's bedroom and not by Pia, Simply becasue if Pia knew abt it, then she would have put the flowers in Jai's room much before. And i dont think that anybody else knows about the cute scene they shared w.r.t the flowers, so its Bani only who knows abt the significance of the flowers in Jai's like. It was more of an impulsive act on her part to try and reach out to the man she loves, no its not retribution for Jai, no matter what his degree of hotness is in each and every episode. 😉

As i was discussing with Jojo, we have always taken Bani for garnted that she will always have to make adjustments and compromises. But in all this, where does Love fit in? yes, Bani fell in love with Jai under the most unexepected circumstances and we went on giving time to Jai to realise her feelings and the importance of Bani in his life. But now, why should things be different? If he loves his wife deeply, then he should be there with her, emotionally and menatlly, if not physically, even when the going gets tough. He has to bear all her feelinsg towards him and then only can he think of winning her back. Its not easy - because Bani left the Walia House when she found out that the life of her mother, whom she loved dearly, was compromised, and she again came back to the Walia House, simply because the life of her Love, the person whom she cherishes the most in the world (though she is not able to tell it clearly) is being compromised. We may all disagree with her methods, but with her intentions never.

As for Jai, if shutting the door and other such issues pushes him to Pia and he finally ends up in Pia's arms, then I guess that he really deserves Pia and Bani doesn't deserve him. And the mighty Jai Walia that we keep on talking about, arguing about, fussing about, does not really exist. But i am sure Jai is not such a weak person and I really expect him to go the whole hog in defending Bani and her actions, even in fron tof his family. here's where the Panditji's predictions are going to come true.

Bani didn't shut the door on Jai's face because she hated him, but because she did not want him to see her vulnerability and pain at that moment - its sasort of defence mechanism for her. She has to do a lot before she can finally allow her the privilege of thinking about her future with Jai, meanwhile, she has to save his life, his family and property. Would anybody do it for any other person whim he/ she hates?

SO Jai, you better be careful and be a good boy. Maybe i will dedicate the next analysis to you, along with a beautiful song. 😉
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Yeh discussion ho kyun rahi hai 😕 MT Not read ur post... will do it and edit this post... dont ask me why i am putting up this post without reading it... i doing it on an impulse.

Why is that Jai has still not won over everyone's trust 😭 Why does everyone feel he will ever stray? 😕 Does anyone even question Bani with respect to Pushkar? Then WHY JAI? Jai is not a weak guy... a weak moment is never going to come... NEVER! Jai is in Love with Bani... and what is Love without Loyalty!

I simply trust Jai and believe he is a guy with a lot of integrity. It is not fair to suspect him... unless he is going to give u solid reasons to... he has shown us on 2 occasions what he is made up of... and still we are suspecting him... 😭

Lots of Luv
Anu.

I will surely edit this post later... My Momma is behind me to help her with the festival preparations.... let me go and maskafy Ganeshji... for a bit more akal 😆 !



Edited by anushka_5 - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey, nice to hear only the supportive voices now...I guess the Brickbatters will be joining shortly afterwards... 😆

But yes, as all of you have put in so well, and quoting Pinky's words, "We are ultimately responsible for the choice we make in our life and it is upto his to keep up with them, come what the situation." Hey, all Harry Potter Fans here will remember Professor Dumbledore's famous words to Harry, "It is the choice's we make, that decides our life...."

I have never thought of Jai and Bani as being victim of circumstances...They have always had a choice and they have always done what their hearts dictated...From marrying one another to consummating their relationship, to the decision of having the child, despite their estrangement! For two people, who have such strong characters and who are so firm in their thoghts and value systems, nothing can or rather nothing should distract them from what they believe in.

As Bani tells Raashi, that when you love someone with such depths, you also get the inner strentgh to do everything you can for that person's happiness.....I believe that Jai also loves Bani with the same depth and her apparent hatred and coldness will never become a barrier for his emotions and feelings towards her!

Pia be damned! 😡

MT

PS: The Flowers were, indeed, kept by Bani! 😃
Edited by mistletoe - 19 years ago

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