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Posted: 10 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: -MKB-

Can please not get a hawt scene just because she is wearing short clothes which I still dont get because s**t walk does not always mean shoet skimpy clothes, but it is more about your belief and the fact that u want equality!

It can either be done in shoet dresses or even a saree



LOL don't you know ppl are already busy planning how "sexy" she'll look and how bowled over Manik will be...👏way to support a "NOBLE CAUSE", right?😆😆



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Posted: 10 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: AreYaar

No one is trying to justify the Mukti "called it upon herself" mindset here...please, that is the last thing ppl would say...again, it's how easily words get twisted around in this debate...how oversensitive everyone is about the whole issue.

Right now logon ka attitude is that woh ladki hai, respect her, period...aage peecche don't anyone DARE point out how she HERSELF NEVER RESPECTED HERSELF...cuz well that means you are "judging" her and saying that she called this upon herself...NO...NO ONE is saying that.


What is important to understand here is the term RESPONSIBILITY...Mukti's UTTER lack of RESPONSIBILITY for herself as either a woman or even an effing HUMAN BEING...so I'm sorry but we WILL call THAT out...even if ppl want to misconstrue it as "Mukti being blamed when she's the victim"



This entire situation is being made MURKY and the REAL issue is being lost in all that...ppl just want to gaado crusader JHANDAAS without realizing how RESPSONSIBLY this issue needs to be treated.


There are people in the post and in other posts, pointedly and categorically saying just that. What's the point of the constant reminder of her consent in the situation or the stupidity of her decision to go to a bar if not to imply that her choices lead to her public s**t shaming?

The rest of it, I don't disagree with. Mukti is irresponsible and reckless, she refuses to grow and own up to her actions. She is the liability in the show and in general, I am completely done with her. But again, her lack of respect for herself, her refusal to take responsibility for her actions, her own perpetration of a similar crime in the past do not take away her right to be a victim in this particular situation. She is wrong in a lot of spheres of her life AND she is being in wronged in this situation. The states of being a victim and a perpetrator can co-exist in a person. Yeah by making this issue larger than life and going 'ho ha women empowerment', they have disconnected it from the show. It is a disservice to Mukti as a character and her victims that she won't learn from this.

Again, I am not misconstruing one for the other. But, like I said before, maybe it is unintentional, but a lot of posts here are reeking of the whole 'she asked for it' mentality and I needed to address that before agreeing with the rest.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#53
No offence to her fans, but I remember discussing this thing with Anu and the others about how this whole track looks more forced in than anything!

The homosexuality track was PLANNED. We saw Cabir getting calls from 'R' since episode 17 and it wasn't till the 45th or 46th episode that we were made sure of Cabir's homosexuality.

The teenage pregnancy track was PLANNED. We saw NavShad getting intimate on the night of Musicana and we all kinda predicted that this will come next.

This issue, however wasn't PLANNED. It looks more like a munh-tod jawaab to all those people who apparently "bashed" Charlie on Twitter, Insta and all. She even dedicated a whole article to this!

No matter what but I cannot see it any other way- the limelight on Mukti all of a sudden, the "issue" which they are TRYING to address screams of the same!

And LOL, Mukti as the victim? Sorry, but I couldn't feel ANYTHING for this girl, let alone pity her or sympathize with her. Her character has no life left and try as you might CV's but no one's gonna sympathize with her!

The whole scene made me laugh- it was just THAT random.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: AreYaar



LOL don't you know ppl are already busy planning how "sexy" she'll look and how bowled over Manik will be...👏way to support a "NOBLE CAUSE", right?😆😆



haaaha...just returned reading those posts...as hw manik will b clean bowled...nd all the possible manan romance ahead😆😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: AppleBlossom

There are people in the post and in other posts, pointedly and categorically saying just that. What's the point of the constant reminder of her consent in the situation or the stupidity of her decision to go to a bar if not to imply that her choices lead to her public s**t shaming?

The rest of it, I don't disagree with. Mukti is irresponsible and reckless, she refuses to grow and own up to her actions. She is the liability in the show and in general, I am completely done with her. But again, her lack of respect for herself, her refusal to take responsibility for her actions, her own perpetration of a similar crime in the past do not take away her right to be a victim in this particular situation. She is wrong in a lot of spheres of her life AND she is being in wronged in this situation. The states of being a victim and a perpetrator can co-exist in a person. Yeah by making this issue larger than life and going 'ho ha women empowerment', they have disconnected it from the show. It is a disservice to Mukti as a character and her victims that she won't learn from this.

Again, I am not misconstruing one for the other. But, like I said before, maybe it is unintentional, but a lot of posts here are reeking of the whole 'she asked for it' mentality and I needed to address that before agreeing with the rest.



And like you can't look beyond the implications of what you are perceiving from the tones in the posts in this thread, I can't conveniently brush under the carpet the fact that they are disrespecting the whole bloody MOVEMENT in this MOCKERY they are making of the issue by using MUKTI'S storyline SO poorly as the reference point...and I for one am glad that SOME in this forum have the guts to point that out rather than quietly sit back and watch the general in name only crusading going on rather than understanding the whole issue.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#56
If a murderer gets stabbed and is then used to advocate the cause of rising violence in society, does that nullify their original crime because they are the "victim" now? Or does it cheapen the entire issue with the obvious inherent hypocrisy of this entire premise?
This is the greatest problem with this track. When you make a perpetrator into prey just to sensationalize a 'hot' topic it takes away from the credibility of the issue itself. By the very nature of the character itself, all audience sympathy was anyway absent. When you impose a social angle onto an already skewed perspective, there is no possible way to make a successful connect for even the most sensitive of viewers.

What happened with Mukti was wrong. But what she did, has been doing all this while(without remorse) and will most probably continue doing even after this tamasha is over is also just as wrong. By inappropriately portraying her as the mascot for an issue she is no way accurately represents, all you end up doing is trolling and belittling the very cause you are (unsuccessfully) attempting to uphold.
How demeaning and unfair this is to the real, innocent victims who have suffered through no fault of their own and yet are still the ones to be blamed for their plight.
Please let's not toy with their dignity and self-respect in the name of pseudo social activism.

Very poorly done CVs and Channel.

A disappointed fan.

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Posted: 10 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: AreYaar



And like you can't look beyond the implications of what you are perceiving from the tones in the posts in this thread, I can't conveniently brush under the carpet the fact that they are disrespecting the whole bloody MOVEMENT in this MOCKERY they are making of the issue by using MUKTI'S storyline SO poorly as the reference point...and I for one am glad that SOME in this forum have the guts to point that out rather than quietly sit back and watch the general in name only crusading going on rather than understanding the whole issue.


Which is great and I have no issues with it? I completely agree that the plot has been shoehorned in out of nowhere, makes zero context in the show, and that making the whole movement hijack the plotline essentially shortchanges Mukti as a character and demeans the movement in general.

But, what I don't get is why you are accusing me of not looking beyond the my perceived implications when I have repeatedly said that, beyond them, I agree with rest of what the OP and the other posters here are trying to convey?
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Posted: 10 years ago
#58
INSTEAD OF BEING A WELL THOUGHT OUT ATTEMPT TO OPEN THE EYES OF THE SOCIETY... THIS LOOKS LIKE A POORLY THOUGHT , FORCED AND SHOVE DOWN OUR THROAT ATTEMPT BY CVS TO BOOST THE EGOS OF THE CONCERNED ...!!!
WHY THE HELL WOULD CHARACTERS LIKE NANDHINI AND NAVYA PARTICIPATE IN s**t WALKS... ISNT THE ISSUE ALL ABOUT THE CHOICE FOR WOMEN TO WEAR CLOTHES THEY ARE COMFORTABLE IN...???

HOW DO THEY MAKE THE VERY CHARACTERS NOT COMFORTABLE IN CERTAIN TYPE OF CLOTHES FORCED TO WEAR AGAINST THEIR COMFORT...???

THIS LOOKS LIKE COMPLETE FIASCO AND THE DANGER IS IT BELITTLES THE GENUINE STRUGGLE THAT IS BEING DONE IN THE REAL WORLD FOR THE VERY PURPOSE...!!!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#59
So here's my view on this stupid track
The guys hit on mukti because she was an easy lay - she just met Rocky from God knows where and then went to the boys hostel and slept with him willingly and all of a sudden she is a victim?
She has always portrayed herself as a loose character and the issue of the clothes just makes it worse.

My point is that the guys were jeering at her because rocky spoke about she was an easy lay - not because of her short pants and little piece of top.
The CV are like they're confused what issue they really want to highlight
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Posted: 10 years ago
#60
I was just going through some of the other posts and it seems like this track was initiated in order to cater to some offscreen drama.
UFF even a novice like me knows to separate the two so how is MTV getting this so wrong?
Watched the older episodes and am very unhappy with the way Mukthi is being portrayed. There are deeper issues here which have not been addressed and by including the Abhi track it was further devalued.
This girl has serious personality issues, she has poor impulse control and lack of introspection. She bites Nandus head off every time N has cautioned her and her attitude towards N is extremely off putting. Call me biased.
I needed her to feel some remorse but no shame,I needed her to introspect but have no guilt. Her character could have been layered with aggression,borderline personality,vulnerability,sadism but without being portrayed either as a victim or the weak.

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