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Originally posted by: Abie10

Mansi brilliant take as always. 👏👏 I can't believe Ruqqu could stoop so low. She was pathetic yesterday. On Jo-Jalal's anniversary our episodes are full of vamps. 😡😭

This shehnaz is with Maham I think. What's remain to be seen is whether she's Jalal's real lost sister or just someone out of the blue. 😕

Originally posted by: history_geek

Hi all,


A.
Yes, they had bad blood between them. But, not in starting. Infact, in starting the relations were fine between the brothers. Abul Fazl does NOT gives clean chit to Hakim's mom - Mahachuchak Begum. She was MA-Part2, as far as conspiracies as concerned. This Vishkanya was also sent by her along with Abul Maali. Though, CV's have not shown it. Hakim's relations were good in starting. See here.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100493899


B.
No Mansi. She did not murder Abul Mali. It was Abul Maali(favorite of Humayun😕) who murdered her.😕 That time Mirza Hakim was a kid and according to one historical account(not writing the name here), Mirza Hakim was playing with kids at that time. And, Abul Maali wanted to capture the "kid - Mirza Hakim". 😆
(Lol. And, In the show, Right now Mirza Hakim should be 10 years OLD "maximum", as per 1563 timeline, as his DOB was 29.4.1553, but CV's DELIBERATELY inserted this Shivani-runaway eloping incident 🤢 to torture us, and made Hakim swallow capsules for speedy growth.😆😕 His mother was stabbed by Maali in 1564 in Kabul. )


After this, When Hakim was attacked by Mirza Suleiman. Then also Hakim appealed for help, to Akbar and was helped, by sending some protectorates, as his mother was no more at this time. Akbar helped him in following manner.{See link below} (So, relations were still good.) But, Hakim married his sister(who was earlier married to Maali) without consulting Akbar. This left a sour taste, but Akbar did nothing.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100493899

Here is a better description about Mirza Hakim. (Includes account of Man Singh and Hakim encounter.)
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98657498

How Maali's life came to an end.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3929368/nausena-pt5-ja-not-fiction-akbar-a-title-p27-mahachuchak-begum-p30?pn=20


C. The MAJOR difference between Akbar and Mirza Hakim surfaced during the "Mughal-Uzbek Storm" (as it is said) in 1565. Mirza Hakim was a young ruler of 12 years at this time. He attacked Lahore, entered Punjab. The reason given by Abul Fazl is that -> "Hakim came under the influence of some wicked men and became disobedient." And, there is more information provided for this incident. I am trying to understand what the exact matter was, as it was a very confusing description.😕 But, Akbar left Mirza Hakim this time, who fled back to Indus, when Akbar crossed Satluj river, as per Akbarnama.

So, in short, Mirza Hakim will have FINE relations till her mother is alive. And yes, Man Singh and Hakim will be at loggerheads.
Link.https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98657498

Here is a brief description, of Man Singh and Mirza Hakim's 'encounter', including Man Singh's speech to Mirza Hakim.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100584186

Originally posted by: skanda12

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

my replies in blue

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Grt take Mansi 👏👏 .. it was actually a horrible episode for me because I was not sure if I m watching Jalal-Jodha anniversary spl episode or a Villain spl anniversary episode 😕 ... r the CVs on a hoilday or something ... where has the love track vanished ?? No passionplay between Jalal-Jodha either ... 😕😕

Is it that all waiting for IPL to get over and so doing this timepass and delaying the love and consummation track further 😕

First comes Villain no.1 ...Ruqaiyya ka rose -plan is the most stupid twist of JA ever 😆 .. What was she really thinking that Jalal will faint in her arms and she will take him to her room and then he wont attend the Anniversary celebration 😕😆 ... Good to see Hoshiyar showing his loyalty towards Jodha and finally supporting the right side and in a way he helped Ruqaiyya too from Jalal's anger or else if she was caught in this act , then her condition wolud hv become like Maham only 😆 .. but still what was that CVs .. a mere timepass ?? 😕


Then comes Villain no2 ... Shehnaz and her mindless searching of random rooms 😕 ... I just could not make any head or tail of the whole scene ... at least this week CVs should hv concentrated on anniversay and Jalal-Jodha more na and from next week all this Shehnaz and co could hv come 😡


Then comes Villain no 3 ... Maham and her sudden BP rising and she holding Adham's neck .. errr ... looked like a timepass scene to me because how many times we hv seen Maham venting out her frustration against Jalal and then Adham coming and instigating her .. Why show same scenes again and again when u hv something better to show in the form of much awaited anniversary celebration 😕😕


Jalal-Jodha looked like making a guest appearence in the episode and that too not romancing but discussing Maham 🥱🥱


Very disappointed to b honest ,.. hope we get a better episode today 😕

Waise what is this drugging of her own husband by Ruq? That too with a drug that knocks him out for one whole day? Seriously ...!

Originally posted by: sun29

hi mansi...thanks for the wonderful analysis of a not so wonderful episode😆...

yesterday was a start of ruqaiyya's silliness which is eventually going to cause her downfall...hoshiyaar tried to warn her and it was a forewarning...but she is so blinded by her obsession to defeat jodha that she has forgotten to draw that line...till yesterday she took advantage of situations but never created them..yesterday was a first and i see the fake pregnancy too happening which will again be her half baked plan ..she will see it as keeping jalal away from jodha refusing to think about what is she going to do in the long run given she cannot be pregnant forever...and even if she uses shenu to fake a MC to blame jodha ...she would have succeeded if shenu was indeed not in her senses...i see her whole plan coming back to bite her hard...

hoshiyaar has a conscious thankfully and he also saved ruqaiyya but how long...and even if jalal had fainted what makes her think jodha would celebrate without him ...she forgot jashn for them is their togetherness and she would have celebrated it with him another day

MA atleast has stopped pretending she cares ...and yes she wants to be back in his good books coz of some secret agenda but behaving with jodha like that and in front of jalal..seriously all vamps seem to be losing their plot😆

coming to shehnaaz...i see her connection with abu maali but i do not see her benazir related...my theory is

she is the daughter of a baandhi of humayun who was treated unfairly and thrown out or she ran off...and shehnaaz was fed all her childhood of that injustice and she must have come to claim assumung her right on the throne as his daughter...only then can she say that the throne is her right...she sounds revengeful not like a cold blooded assassin as ben was...

her role will be full fledged after MA goes down and takes rukku with her ...

and about the precap..i hope even if they are unable to solve that damned cave mystery..they spend their night in that jungle away from prying eyes

Originally posted by: history_geek

Hi all,


A.
Yes, they had bad blood between them. But, not in starting. Infact, in starting the relations were fine between the brothers. Abul Fazl does NOT gives clean chit to Hakim's mom - Mahachuchak Begum. She was MA-Part2, as far as conspiracies as concerned. This Vishkanya was also sent by her along with Abul Maali. Though, CV's have not shown it. Hakim's relations were good in starting. See here.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100493899


B.
No Mansi. She did not murder Abul Mali. It was Abul Maali(favorite of Humayun😕) who murdered her.😕 That time Mirza Hakim was a kid and according to one historical account(not writing the name here), Mirza Hakim was playing with kids at that time. And, Abul Maali wanted to capture the "kid - Mirza Hakim". 😆
(Lol. And, In the show, Right now Mirza Hakim should be 10 years OLD "maximum", as per 1563 timeline, as his DOB was 29.4.1553, but CV's DELIBERATELY inserted this Shivani-runaway eloping incident 🤢 to torture us, and made Hakim swallow capsules for speedy growth.😆😕 His mother was stabbed by Maali in 1564 in Kabul. )


After this, When Hakim was attacked by Mirza Suleiman. Then also Hakim appealed for help, to Akbar and was helped, by sending some protectorates, as his mother was no more at this time. Akbar helped him in following manner.{See link below} (So, relations were still good.) But, Hakim married his sister(who was earlier married to Maali) without consulting Akbar. This left a sour taste, but Akbar did nothing.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100493899

Here is a better description about Mirza Hakim. (Includes account of Man Singh and Hakim encounter.)
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98657498

How Maali's life came to an end.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3929368/nausena-pt5-ja-not-fiction-akbar-a-title-p27-mahachuchak-begum-p30?pn=20


C. The MAJOR difference between Akbar and Mirza Hakim surfaced during the "Mughal-Uzbek Storm" (as it is said) in 1565. Mirza Hakim was a young ruler of 12 years at this time. He attacked Lahore, entered Punjab. The reason given by Abul Fazl is that -> "Hakim came under the influence of some wicked men and became disobedient." And, there is more information provided for this incident. I am trying to understand what the exact matter was, as it was a very confusing description.😕 But, Akbar left Mirza Hakim this time, who fled back to Indus, when Akbar crossed Satluj river, as per Akbarnama.

So, in short, Mirza Hakim will have FINE relations till her mother is alive. And yes, Man Singh and Hakim will be at loggerheads.
Link.https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98657498

Here is a brief description, of Man Singh and Mirza Hakim's 'encounter', including Man Singh's speech to Mirza Hakim.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100584186