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Posted: 11 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Salim Chisti had foretold HB long back that Jodha would be the MUZ. Now seeing JJ together as a happy and much-in-love couple, her hopes have perhaps arisen that soon she can expect a heir to the throne. So she may be gifting the set of crowns to the SS and his MUZ.


But one ques;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Is crown can only wear, MUJ, or King, is Khas Queens not wear;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;.or which function, Crown Wears😆

is khas queen can wear;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Ruk will wear, First.😆


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Posted: 11 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Hi Medha,

Lovely post! I love reading your posts! 😛 You are such a sweet girl that you can't stand even reel vamps! 😊



Maddi, Radhika,, you both wrote, good points.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


@bold: Great points! ⭐️

You should think positively; a bumbling fool like Ruq is better than a maniacal and psychotic Shehnaz. Has Ruq ever thought out her plans before? She works impulsively. And being the BEK, she will never carry anything herself. not even a gift to her husband. It's a wonder she walks on her own instead of insisting on being carried around on a palki.

You know, there's a story, which goes like this. A maid shouted from a distance to a queen that her dupatta had caught fire. The queen sat still and calmly asked the maid to come and put out the fire. Being the queen, it was below her dignity to do any work herself. Our dear BEK Ruq is like that! 😆



@Bold...Is this a Real story.?.😲
Fits aptly here.😉

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Posted: 11 years ago
#84


She died On Night of 28 April 1564 . At Kabul. Stabbed by Abul Maali.

She passed away on the eve of 11th Birthday of her son Mirza Hakim.



Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



C. she started it much before that... coz MA had died in 1562... and MH started problems with Jalal since 12 years of age(MH)... means ard when Jalal was 20 and MH was some 8/10 yrs younger to Jalal/akbar...

if i m not wrong Mali was killed in 1564... so after MA, AK and Mali departure and SD defeat, MH was only one who created problems for Akbar... and then Maansingh was the one who defeated MH and made him flee back to Kabul...

again, Abhay, pl reply



Hi all,


A.
Yes, they had bad blood between them. But, not in starting. Infact, in starting the relations were fine between the brothers. Abul Fazl does NOT gives clean chit to Hakim's mom - Mahachuchak Begum. She was MA-Part2, as far as conspiracies as concerned. This Vishkanya was also sent by her along with Abul Maali. Though, CV's have not shown it. Hakim's relations were good in starting. See here.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100493899


B.
No Mansi. She did not murder Abul Mali. It was Abul Maali(favorite of Humayun😕) who murdered her.😕 That time Mirza Hakim was a kid and according to one historical account(not writing the name here), Mirza Hakim was playing with kids at that time. And, Abul Maali wanted to capture the "kid - Mirza Hakim". 😆
(Lol. And, In the show, Right now Mirza Hakim should be 10 years OLD "maximum", as per 1563 timeline, as his DOB was 29.4.1553, but CV's DELIBERATELY inserted this Shivani-runaway eloping incident 🤢 to torture us, and made Hakim swallow capsules for speedy growth.😆😕 His mother was stabbed by Maali in 1564 in Kabul. )


After this, When Hakim was attacked by Mirza Suleiman. Then also Hakim appealed for help, to Akbar and was helped, by sending some protectorates, as his mother was no more at this time. Akbar helped him in following manner.{See link below} (So, relations were still good.) But, Hakim married his sister(who was earlier married to Maali) without consulting Akbar. This left a sour taste, but Akbar did nothing.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100493899

Here is a better description about Mirza Hakim. (Includes account of Man Singh and Hakim encounter.)
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98657498

How Maali's life came to an end.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3929368/nausena-pt5-ja-not-fiction-akbar-a-title-p27-mahachuchak-begum-p30?pn=20


C. The MAJOR difference between Akbar and Mirza Hakim surfaced during the "Mughal-Uzbek Storm" (as it is said) in 1565. Mirza Hakim was a young ruler of 12 years at this time. He attacked Lahore, entered Punjab. The reason given by Abul Fazl is that -> "Hakim came under the influence of some wicked men and became disobedient." And, there is more information provided for this incident. I am trying to understand what the exact matter was, as it was a very confusing description.😕 But, Akbar left Mirza Hakim this time, who fled back to Indus, when Akbar crossed Satluj river, as per Akbarnama.

So, in short, Mirza Hakim will have FINE relations till her mother is alive. And yes, Man Singh and Hakim will be at loggerheads.
Link.https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98657498

Here is a brief description, of Man Singh and Mirza Hakim's 'encounter', including Man Singh's speech to Mirza Hakim.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/100584186



Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Hi Mansi,


i am saying episode was good, because, in this episode, Akdha Anniversary,realted talks are happening, & they gifted CROWN, so, acc to me episode was Good.😆


Oh Ruk, what is she doing, she is putting Danger in life of Jalal, because she jealous from Jodha;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;in this way, she will distanced, between Jodha & heAkbar.

what can anyone say about this? What a Brain Ruk Have😉?

She triled, this to one Dassi;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;How much she is insenstive?,

jalal ques after;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Is dassi life is not Life, suppose, she will not back from her unconsicousness.?

is her jealousy +inscurity so much increasing, she can Harm anyone;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;yesterday
she talking about sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;az, mentel status;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so where is Ruk mentel status?

Is she will lose BEK, audha also after some time?

Jalal point, first, she did wrong, second she, went Jalal Hozara, seeing, what reaction, happened to Jalal?

Is jalal will more harmed, who is responsible?(Totaly careless foolishness beahivour)

She not feeled bad, but she is tensing, why Her plan flopped.😡 😡 😡 😡

she was saying sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;az needed treatment, i think, Maham, Ruk, sh;;;;;;;;;;;;az
Ak, sharrif, Bakshi;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Long list needed treatment.😆 😆


Ayushi, you will open a new superspeciality shahi shafakhana in Agra for all these - there will be no dearth of patients. 😆 Ruq is Ruq - hats off to her - no one can say she doesn't try - she tries and tries - she has the never-say-die spirit like King Bruce 😆 How can anyone here expect her to feel bad or OMG, think about the sultanat or the SS's safety - she is the BEK - no one is more important than her - everyone must think of her feelings first.

HB gifts were beautiful, is jodha is giving some Title, i wrote Abhay reply also, Maybee he will clear,😆 😆;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So Akdha will wear CROWNS😆 😆

This is the first time I am seeing real crowns in this show. Earlier, Jalal only wore simple turban-style crowns and Jo none.

jalal behaved Maham Good, but i am understanding jodha point also, her point , i already wrote today, Attachment & talking have difference.so both are right in Own place.

We agree here 😊

Credit goes to Hosh;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;r, fully, Who did great job, How he blanced the situatin

& saved jalal;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; if a Wife start, doing these things, or we, talked about realtionship;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;realtionship, i not see anywhere, it is going to finishing.

what is blancing? Who can save this realtion.?

Yes, Hoshiyar has more sense, loyalty and gratitude than a queen, what a pity!

is she feeling inscuring, &jealousd;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;in this way, she will loose everything.try

Sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;az, pharman Maham pharman;;;;;;;;;;;;;;becoming mystry😆 who can solve this mystry;;;;;;;;;;;;he or she will be rewarded, on Akdha Anniversary.😆 😆


is Akdha is going on Date night time, acc to precap😉both saw Maham in SURRUNG

So what will come in front of us;;;;;;;;;;;;Surrung Mystry.


But Akdha anniversary, how will come, in front of us, Guess😆 😆

Sh;;;;;;;;;;;;;az point;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;my brain, not ans;;ing;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;me😉

Naa Zane kaha see Ayee hee, ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Yee ladki.😆

but my sick sense is saying;;;;;;;;;Ben point, Jodha sloved, this point Will solve

by jalal, because, jalal, already;;;;;;;;;hinted, her stupidness;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So jalal kee hatth theek hogi yee Ladki.😆 😆& CV will blanced the track.😉

Wow, JJ on a camping date, that's a good one! 😆 Yes, the CVs will balance the score by making Jalal save Jo this time from Shehnaz.

Lovely take, Ayushi! 👏👏👏




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Posted: 11 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Mansi... just one passing thought... what if shenu is linked with Mirza Hakim and like u said with MH's mother, one more backstabber whom Jalal trusted as his own?

Jalal loves MH, Jo likes him, both trust him blindly... nobody will ever suspect him to be backstabber, till he is exposed , just like MA... and to be frank, being Humayun's son, if anything happens to Jalal, MH is the most rightful heir to throne..

see, as far as i know history, Akbar and MH had lot of bad blood btw them... there was never such sugery relation btw both brothers, the way it's shown... rather MH always hated Akbar for his power and wanted the takht, and he always tried to create one or other problem for Akbar, till his death in i think 1582... (Abhay, need ur help for the facts)

i don't know but somehow, Shenu connected with MA doesn't fit, if her connection with Mathura is seen... she was there since much before than Jo went to that Ashram... so is it possible that , that Ashram is anyway connected with that farman, and Shenu stayed there to find it out... and just when she understood, that she is not able to find anything in ashram, Jo and then Jalal walked in the ashram by pure co-incidence, and Shenu got the opportunity to enter Agra palace using Jo's sympathy...

ok, MH didn't know Jo was to go to ashram, but he may be in touch with Shenu, and so she knows everybody from palace, and so recognized Jo , when Jo went to ashram... remember their first meeting... shenu run with kanha murty... surely not co-incidence... why should she do it, if she didn't recognize Jo? and that too same day when Jo enter to ashram?

and now, since shenu has acquired the status as mentally challenged girl, even from Jalal, she can very well do anything in palace, without being questioned... coz MH can't go to Jalal's harem often, but Shenu can... see , she is exactly checking the rooms only where she can find some imp papers... first MA and now gulbadan...and being Jo's near one, nobody will even question her...

and why i said, Shenu not connected with MA, then, if there was any connection, then MA had got Shenu inside palace much before, when she was in good books with Jalal...

see we all r concentrating on what we r getting to see... ruku, MA, Adham and SD... and now Shenu... but in all these we forgot MH, , the real thorn in Jalal's way, who had equal right to throne, just like Jalal... coz see, MA wants delhi Takht, but not Shenu... she wants whole Sultanat... just like MH always wanted (as per real history)

what say?


Hi Diksha,

I also felt the same way. In yesterday's Mansi's thread, I had raised this Q - what is MH still doing in Agra? Is he related to Shehnaz and is waiting for Jalal to fall so that he can immediately lay claim to the throne?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#88
Mansi brilliant take as always. 👏👏 I can't believe Ruqqu could stoop so low. She was pathetic yesterday. On Jo-Jalal's anniversary our episodes are full of vamps. 😡😭


This shehnaz is with Maham I think. What's remain to be seen is whether she's Jalal's real lost sister or just someone out of the blue. 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
#89

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



i felt the crown is for Mallika E Hind, not for MUZ... coz MUZ can be any begum who will give him heir... HB doesn't yet know Chisti baba's bhavishyavani... but yes, she can always wish , her chahiti bahu to become Mallika E Hind...


Diksha, early in the marriage of JJ, Salim Chisti Baba had come to Agra to bless the couple. He had then told HB that Jo would be the MUZ.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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oops u know what I meant

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