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Posted: 11 years ago
More info on the Allahabad Fort from the archives of the Hindustan Times-

THE SACRED land of Prayag has many historical monuments and sites. One such monument is Allahabad Fort which is known for its fine architecture. Situated at the confluence of sacred rivers Ganga, Yamuna and mythical Saraswati the fort also has within its ramparts a few unique mythological and historical sites like Ashoka Pillar, Rang Mahal, Akshay Vat, Saraswati Kup and Patalpuri temple.

The fort was built by Emperor Akbar in 1583 AD to dominate the Ganga and Yamuna waterways. It remained with the Mughals till 1765 AD when it fell in the hands of Marathas for a short period and was eventually restored to Emperor Shah Alam in 1789 AD.

In 1798, Allahabad Fort was ceded to the East India Company and three years later it became a military station.

Right from the first day of the British occupation, Allahabad Fort housed the 'arsenal' for British Presidency Army of the East India Company. At present, the fort is a Command Depot.

Thus there is an unbroken link of this historic site with the Ordnance Services of various regimes since the days of Akbar the Great.

Entering into the fort is an experience in itself. The entire premises have been very well maintained by the army and it is doing an yeoman's service in maintaining and conserving the monument.

According to Wing Commander SM Sharma, PRO, Ministry of Defence, all the maintenance and conservation of the fort is undertaken with the resources available with the army.

The President's View site is the standing evidence of President Dr Rajendra Prasad's stay in the fort for the month-long 'kalpvas' during annual Magh Mela.
Located near it is the Saraswati Kup which is actually a deep well and it is believed that river Saraswati flows beneath it before merging with other two holy rivers.

The Patalpuri temple, which is open for the civilians, has several idols installed in its premises which could not be found elsewhere. According to the priest, Surendra Nath, the temple was built by Jodha Bai, wife of Akbar.

The rare architectural piece of Ashoka pillar has also been conserved safely by the army. The pillar is 35 feet in height and was built by Emperor Ashoka. His main purpose was the propagation of Buddhism as this pillar has the etchings of Ashoka's edicts.

Later, Samudra Gupt made use of the pillar as a standing proof of his sovereignty over the various nations. Mughal emperor Jahangir re-erected it to solemnise his accession to the throne in the year 1605 AD. The engravings on the pillar are in ancient scripts.

The 'undying tree' Akshay Vat finds special significance in Hindu religion. It is believed that it fulfils all the wishes and the devotees used it as a suicide point in order to attain moksha.

Akbar, however, stopped this practice during his reign. Akbar's grandson Aurangzeb tried to destroy it but it thrived again thus living up to its name.

Just before the entry point to this sacred site are the steps leading to the site which was the personal bathing place of Jodha Bai.

Another site of historical significance is Rang Mahal which is the example of merger of Indo-Islamic culture. Built by Akbar, it served as the theatre for display of dance. At present it is being conserved by Archaeological Survey of India (ASI).

The annals of history could never be completed without mentioning the significance of Allahabad Fort.


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Originally posted by: Clumsy_Wings

A gift for some history buffs,and lovers something for the weekends.


Another MUZ palace

Allahabad Fort at Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh, India was built by Emperor Akbar in 1583. The fort stands on the banks of the Yamuna near the confluence with the river Ganges. It is the largest fort built by Akbar. In its prime, the fort was unrivaled for its design, construction and craftsmanship. This huge fort has three galleries flanked by high towers. At present is used by the army and only a limited area is open to visitors. The outer wall is intact and rises above the water's edge. Inside the fort there is the Zenana, Palace of Mariam-uz-Zamani and the 3rd century BC Ashoka pillar andSaraswati Koop as well, said to be the source of the Saraswati river. The Patalpuri temple is also here. Allahabad Fort is the location of the much revered Akshayavat or "immortal tree." Legends say that if anyone jumps from this centuries-old banyan tree he will attain immortality. Civilians are not allowed to see this tree. It is near the southern wall and is one among many trees that can be seen from outside the southern wall of the fort. In the fort one railway track comes from Allahabad Railway Station.


wow another one palace 😳 TFS
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MIRZA MUHAMMED HAKIM


Originally posted by: sonilausarun



n the line conti... Waiting



Hi all...
Ok...I am done with it finally..Otherwise, this spiral of Hakim will go on increasing..
Even, Mansi's thread was flocked with similar comments on Thursday...

So, here we go...

"Minor" <😕<< Update on Mirza Hakim..(though this is not minor by any angle..!!..)


Akbar's stepbrother.


Father ->Humayun
Mother -> Mahachuchak Begum(check spellings, many are prevalent.😕)
Timeline -> 29 April 1553 - 2 August 1585/10 October 1585(confusion)
Born -> Pargana of Hisar, Kabul (same day as another brother Ibrahim was born, died young.)
Died -> same place as above
Reason -> Excessive Drinking
Burial -> Royal Garden of Babur/Bagh-i-Baburi, Kabul

Before starting, i would like to mention -> Hakim and Man Singh WILL be at loggerheads.😆..I do not know "exactly WHEN" but they will be...Seriously...!!..may be later..


Brief info on Hakim's Mother:

First Munim khan served her till 1560.
Munim then went in personal service of Akbar.


After that, Munim's son Ghani khan continued. She formed political alliance with Ghani khan's uncle Fazail beg to get Ghani eliminated but ended up getting murdering Fazail Beg first.!!..😕


For me she is MA part2 or to be precise FEMALE version of BRUTUS (remember Julius Caesar?). (i am DELIBERATELY not writing more on her, or you all will feel Jalal was always surrounded by conspirators.😕.which is a bitter truth..Though he had LOYAL friends as well..)


She first appointed Shah Wali as Hakim's caretaker (like Bairam for Akbar)...and then...got him killed by one Qasim Haider khan.😕


Around 1562/3 when Munim khan was sent to control Hakim by Jalal(hope u remember on show it was shown..?), she "personally" led the forces😲 and forced Munim khan to flee from Jalalabad, thus maintaining independence of Kabul.!!..


To keep her position strong vis-a-vis Akbar, she forged alliance with people who opposed Akbar. Example: Abul Mali by marrying Hakim's sister Fakhrunissa to Abul Mali and gave him a safe heaven in kabul.

(Though akbarnama says, she was misleaded by her own nobles about real nature of abul mali.😕 Later abul mali killed her in april 1564 and her close associates.)


Sensing opportunity, Mirza Sulaiman of Badakshan invaded kabul and with help of hakim's loyalists and captured abul mali and on hakim's order strangled abul mali to death.

Till her assasination by abul mali in 1564, she tried following 2 things
1. prevented mirza to fall in influence of akbar loyalists.
2. secure throne for him somehow.

Moral: She did all that what MA did for Adham. As simple as that.


Continued: Mirza Hakim

Hakim ruled as a de-facto ruler under his mother initially. Tried usurping Mughal throne from Akbar. Executed endless conspiracies against Jalal, from Kabul...😕...


Abul Fazl has given an apt description of him -> "A man without a cool head, not content with his estate, who executed evils."...(will soon quote EXACT words.).Even, chronicles have described him as a bigot.😕


I do not know what his problem was but he ALWAYS conspired against Akbar. Sitting in Kabul he troubled him. Akbar initially ignored him, did not punish him. ("Bhaichara factor.".Bacha samaj ke maaf kar diya..). But, he mistook it to be Akbar's weakness- a major fault of Hakim.!.!.


Such was his desperation that it's said he even, asked help from Persia, Uzbekistan, Transoxianan countries, etc. against Akbar, and sent his diplomats there!!! Even, he won the support of 'most barbaric and feared tribes' of the hills of Kabul, Kandahar and other places against Akbar!!!... The most fierce and dangerous support he got was from the Uzbeks - they were very barbaric/highly accomplished fighters. Their weapons were primitive but laced with poisons. HIghly accomplished guerilla fighters..He was hand in gloves with Uzbeks. He "created" such conditions that brought Akbar into confrontation with Uzbeks. When Akbar was busy handling Uzbeks in 1566, even than he carried his unscruplous acts .


Back to topic::(mentioning Uzbeks, since they troubled Akbar a lot..!!..)

"Uzbeks - described as deadly enemy of Mughals..", right from Babur to Aurangzeb, and even Later Mughals.. They created a lot of troubles and conspiracy after conspiracy to de-stabilize Akbar's rule. Akbar finally was able to win Kandhar around 1594(plz check dates..m not sure..), when Man Singh was sent against them, but it was lost under Shah Jahan in 1649. Aurangzeb and later Dara Shikoh were sent against Uzbeks that time, but they could not defeat them.

BTW, Uzbeks troubled Akbar BADLY...Resulting in the famous, Mughal-Uzbek Conflict(1564-66). They were spontaneous raids but HIGHLY dangerous...

Raja Birbal lost his life fighting against them and other tribes in 1589. Finally, again Man Singh was sent against them. He fought against them, despite the fact that his father, Raja Bhagwan Das had just passed away...(Man Singh was TOO loyal to Akbar. Akbar called him his 'FARJAND'-meaning son.)


Important info:

It is mentioned from starting Man Singh was 'wary' of Hakim's evil plans.(?do not know how but he was..it is said..)

Man Singh intercepted 3 letters of Mirza Hakim, after defeating a general of Hakim around 21-22 December 1580. The letters were Hakim's reply to 3 people, whom Akbar considered his 'Faithfuls'.😲..(will quote their names later) Through these letters, they shared some ''Saazish" against him. I am trying to find out exact episode. Will update it later. The point is, Akbar had many conspirators, but, MAJORITY were his closer ones..Who lived near him..He was deceived by his close relatives...😕..I personally feel odd for him..

BTW, Akbar still forgave a few of those conspirators, to be deceived again.😕..Again, they were exposed by Man Singh...😲..

Continuing this episode..
This is the case of 1580-81.
Almost, entire sultanate was in revolt against Akbar..

Now, from Bengal and Bihar Afghan subedars attacked and revolted...
Raja Todar Mal sent there..(Finance Minister)

Condition was more severe in Kabul.
From, Kabul, Hakim Marched...and reached Lahore, Punjab..
Man Singh sent there to fight him.

Man Singh (Again.!😕!...it seems he wanted to fight against Hakim...), was sent against Hakim...
Akbar/Man Singh had underestimated Hakim's plans, it seems. Actually, Hakim had 15,000 horses alone + a mounted infantry + superior guns of Persian origin + archers + those deadly tribal people... Man Singh was almost outnumbered...!!!.


P.S.--> It was Man Singh who was sent to fight, not Akbar himself. Even Bhagwan Das was present.
Many books give Akbar crushed the rebellion, which is not totally correct . Consult chronicles for correct details..


Asked to surrender, Man Singh refused, and asked Hakim to attack him and he declared -> "I owe my faith to my king(Jalal.), i and my fighters will fight till last breath.etc.etc.blah blah.. " Hakim wanted to capture him alive...(BTW, EVEN Man Singh's exact words to Hakim are recorded in chronicles.😲.If you want i will update??)


Keeping short, Hakim was defeated, by comparatively small army of Man Singh-who suffered "badly".
The battle continued with stout resistance from Man Singh..!!!!...
Man Singh, and Hakim..none of them ready to give up..

Finally, Hakim fled.
He even tried to instigate the local population against Man Singh on religious grounds.(he tried every treacherous move).

Hakim had also forged an pre-alliance with some of Punjab nobles to assist him, but they backed out at last moment.

Meanwhile, Akbar started for Lahore with a force of 50,000 horses.(by the time he reached there, war was already over and Hakim fled to nearby hills.)..
(I also read somewhere, Mirza Hakim, fled "even" from the hills after Akbar "darao"fied him.(i mean afraid of Akbar)😆...Khauf-e-Akbar...👍🏼)

Note:-> Akbar sent his generals to take hold of Hakim's sons, Khaikhubad & Afhrasiyaab, both below 10 years. They were virtually put in house arrest around 1585, in the Mughal gardens of Lahore/Kabul(i forgot exact location.)

Continue:

Finally, Akbar gave the rule of Kabul in hands of Hakim's sister, Baktunissa (check the name..).
Though, she returned throne back to Hakim, later.
Hakim died soon in 1585.
Akbar got rid of Hakim, But Uzbeks became new active irritants. Now most famous enemy from now on from 1585 till 1598 will be Abdullah Khan Uzbek.

It's another story. Leave it for later.

This issue of Man Singh and Hakim is going to be interesting..Man Singh blocked Hakim's plans. Wait...You will see all this in show..

References:

1. tabaqat-i-akbari
2. tarikh-i-akbari
3. khan-i-khanan munim khan by alam khan (biography of Munim Khan)(1575)
4. akbarnama vol 3
5. muntaqhab ut tawarikh
6. tazkira-i-humayun va akbar by bayzid byat
7. iqbalnama-i-jahangiri
8. tazakirat-us-salatin-i-chagahata


@Maddy...Hope..!!..You got to know another person who backstabbed Akbar, despite being his close relative. So, add this name to your list of following "Aanstein Mein chipe Saanp", --->>Maham Anga, Adham Khan, Abul Mali, Sharifuddin, Mahachuchak Begum, and wait...the list is ENDLESS.!!...Soon, you will get "minimum" 4 more names...And some of most unexpected ones who are less famous in history...Keep watching...!!..


@KDR81...As you always say, i wanted to give a minor update, and even after you removed 4 big paragraphs from this writeup, i still ended up writing a NEW THREAD.😆...BTW..."A BIG Thanx" for giving crucial dates and names...👍🏼...


Error, if any regretted, just writing at one stretch, what i remember, though possibility is VERY LESS.
Finally...Full Stop...Fatigued...Exhausted..!!.🤢..


(i have "skipped" various tracks which you will get in future related to Hakim..Will update as & when they are about to unfold on show..)


P.S -->> Do not go on BHOLI BHALI shakal of our charming,⭐️ 007 & INNOCENT looking Shahzada Mirza Muhammed Hakim. He is the male version of our DEAR MAHAM ANGA "JI" .


P.P.S -->> He is going to TROUBLE Akbar seriously. And his secret letters getting caught by Man Singh and plans getting foiled, is something i am waiting to watch...(provided it is shown..!!..)
..(See the contrast--Bhai marne pe laga hua hai 😕..Aur Man Singh ki loyalty ka jawab nahi...That's why Akbar called him, his "Farjand" .)


P.P.P.S.-->> Do not reject it as "ANOTHER" fictional story.😉😆



ALSO.--> Almost entire forum wanted to know what blue/green colored liquid Vishkanya Ben was carrying in her mouth.😆...And, questions about their existence and MODUS-OPERANDI..

Check foll. link, 2 separate posts by me and KDR81 on page - 17.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3848936/mughals-ja-real-is-not-fiction-pt4-author-tms-note-on-pg1-and-91?pn=17
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98476507

also on page-19.
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/98595784

Hope was helpful.
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Thank you for the detailed info. I love reading your post because your detailed knowledge of history brings alive the characters of the serial.
Just 1 correction if I may- Akbar conquered Kandahar from the Persian king Shah Abbas in 1594( the same Persian king who tortured a Georgian queen to death because she would not convert to Islam)
Immediately after Akbar's death, the Persians again tried to capture Kandahar but failed.
In 1623, the Persians managed to retake Kandahar from Jahangir
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Posted: 11 years ago
Abhay thanks for posting on Mirza Hakim. His's mother was known for being notorious. The more I had read about her , the more it made me feel sorry for Jalal. I had not read about Hakim Mirza, but he does sound like the she version of MM. Akbar was always surrounded by conspirators, and anyone who has power is not strange to to this. Betrayals are part of life..Keep them coming.. When i finish reading about his mother, i will try my hands on Hakim.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Donjas

Thank you for the detailed info. I love reading your post because your detailed knowledge of history brings alive the characters of the serial.
Just 1 correction if I may- Akbar conquered Kandahar from the Persian king Shah Abbas in 1594( the same Persian king who tortured a Georgian queen to death because she would not convert to Islam)
Immediately after Akbar's death, the Persians again tried to capture Kandahar but failed.
In 1623, the Persians managed to retake Kandahar from Jahangir



Hi...

Yes...you are correct but..😊...
BUT,
I meant that in 1649 the kandhahar fort was PERMANENTLY lost by Mughals...I was talking of FINAL FACE-OFF...i mean the LAST ATTEMPT...😊
Just more info, Shah Jahan wanted the entire Central Asian kingdom,Samarkand and Farghana, originally part of Timurid empire during time of Changez Khan..from where Babur came...

Hence, he had dream to WON that part again...

So, he sent 3 expeditions...
2 were carried on by, Aurangzeb(1649) and Dara Shikoh(1653) themselves...
But, they failed...

Thanx a lot...👍🏼
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas

Thank you for the detailed info. I love reading your post because your detailed knowledge of history brings alive the characters of the serial.
Just 1 correction if I may- Akbar conquered Kandahar from the Persian king Shah Abbas in 1594( the same Persian king who tortured a Georgian queen to death because she would not convert to Islam)
Immediately after Akbar's death, the Persians again tried to capture Kandahar but failed.
In 1623, the Persians managed to retake Kandahar from Jahangir



Hey...I have a query...😊...

Can you please tell me about that Georgian queen..?..?..😊
(though we discuss JA here..still..just some knowledge sharing..)

If i am correct, she was regarded as a pure soul and Abbas was a bigot king.??
i mean am i correct in deciphering their characters or i am mixing something.??

Thanx..
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Posted: 11 years ago
Thanks so much for the info on mirza on abhay👏
If directed properly Ekta has a ready made masala in the form of their stories waise hi...but, I doubt the CVs will really stick to authentic accounts.

My problem is not as much the bringing in of a semi-fictional character like vishkanya, it's about how the entire thing is being executed...😭

Some lovely info there Syria...👏
Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Don't know why he is called the great.😕 Anyway! Pardon me for intriguing.

The queen name was Queen Ketevan. She is revered as a martyr in Georgia. He took her as a prisoner when he conquered her land. Her remains were have been found in St. Augustine Church in Goa. The DNA analysis have confirmed that the bones found they are more likely hers .

Here is a article



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Posted: 11 years ago
That freaking Bigot killed her.😡
An excerpt of how she was tortured. His ego was hurt when she refused his proposal and his condition. That freaking idiot killed her to satisfy his ego.😡I hope her soul has rested in peace. She truly seem to have been one hell of a courageous woman.👏
"Queen Ketevan was robed in festive attire and led out to a crowded square. Her persecutors subjected her to indescribable torment: they placed a red-hot copper cauldron on her head, tore at her chest with heated tongs, pierced her body with glowing spears, tore off her fingernails, nailed a board to her spine, and finally split her forehead with a red-hot spade".


Edited by Clumsy_Wings - 11 years ago

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