Jodha Akbar 212: Manna from Heaven or a mrigtrishna ? - Page 9

Originally posted by: shahbhavini

Hello Shyamla Aunty,

I completely agree with your POV... I have not watched today's episode but can't wait... As usual I couldn't hold my curiosity and read some of the post about today's episode... I am really very much disappointed with CVS... I have notice my own reaction... when ever I am frustrated with any tracks or CVS or actors... I usually post my comments😆...

Yesterday episode... I felt Rajat acting was marvelous... his tears touched my heart and Jodha... I am not too sure but was not that bad either... but sensual dream (thank god) scene I will say it's like joke... Aesa dikhane se behtar hota kuch nahi dikhate... what a Joke... Jalal kissing on her Tikaa... lol... and photography... closeup horrible... MOST IMP ...I find intensity missing... They didn't look comfortable at all... Jalal has done thousand time better job with Tansen time...and even with Ruku ... I still remember their passionate hug at the time of divorce drama...

today... again... I am very much frustrated at Jodha... What is going on with CVS... One day she is talking to herself that she is the one who is culprit and today Madam pack up and ran out of the palace... CVS thinking that viewers are stupid... Aur wants us give us a free ride of roller coaster... Really I am really disappointed at Jodha's double face...FOR THIS TRACK I AM SAYING THIS FROM THE BEGINNING JODHA IS 100% AT THE FAULT... and after today's drama I am done... On top of it... Why even in dream Jalal knee down and apologies to Jodha... That is what in his mind... He really think that he is at the fault... This can't be real... First of all he has not distrust her at all... even after seeing both of them together he constantly ask her same question... say something... and Stupidly she admit her brotherly love to him... she loves him... really 😲 My mind has so many things going on right now ... I think Ekta mem drama what u expect... women ko bichari abla nari ...par yaha pe Jodha abla nahi hai... i am screaming ... My frustration is extreme... Hope I have not written anything in stress...

Love U Aunty🤗
Bhavini

Originally posted by: Joja

Bhavini, I am exactly in the same state as you, hence stopping myself from seeing any other thread. Because if i see anone prasing Jo, Not sure what i would say/write. So just came to this thread . Dont have even 1% mood of seeing this episode.

We both are in the same boat... I want to watch today's episode to see how far cvs will go to make viewer stupid... and another problem... Without watching Rajat... I can't sleep good😆

hi Aunty 😊
Your case for obstacle race was equally entertaining. Dang !! tears were wiped off before zooming in Martian landscape,it would been resourceful to, Americans giant leap for colonizing on mars with sight of water body.😆

Well i did watch today's episode after seeing many post floating on the forum either standing up for Jodha or in disagreement .
Wow kuwri Jodha, The letter, how cool was it...quickly turned the things around, conveniently lay the blame at shenshah's door, not a word of remorse on her part. Easily opt for selective memory, 😡blanked out her vachan was reason for playing the game of silence. Something like aap ne pati ka farz nahi nibhaya, she got some brass to say that...but i guess keeping secrets about meeting a man is not good enough reason for apologizing... This is height of hypocrisy...The Lady can't owned up to her mistakes...

Writers must be smoking weed to pen out such a lame letter. Now that love is confessed in not so perfect situation, derail her off the ego track. but i guess feminism brings more viewers than love saga.Only good take is actress is beautiful and a good performer.

There goes one more feather in the cap, pilgrimage tax.Some one did mention it was brought up before by Jalal and left in limbo. It must have dawned on them (makers) it is jodha's transition to akbar not jalal's. 😡
My escape from jodha's tirade did not last long😆.She paid me back with long letter ( killing it with moti's recital) and long distance hugs.😆 poor me need long break from the show, can't handle wheeping willow Jalal and HB( love her smile) on jodha jaap, Ruq brain washed, Jodha's sermon to citizens.
I might switch to maham(being consistently negative) atka khan( using patented dialogue ,monotonous expression) and sarifuddin ( being gutsy to see jodha as wife) for my favorite list 😆

Aunty, really good post 👏. Had to give credit to CV's. I constantly keep thinking it can't get any worse than this and they always prove me wrong .

Jodha: I never had any great expectations from her. I always look past her long baashans and her constant halo because it is expected in hindi serials. I was hoping for some growth in her character with each track and there was, albeit in baby steps. But now everything has gone back and even me who try to find my own logic for everything is unable to justify this.

Her grina ki keechad mein prem ka kamal jo khilne laga is similar to Ashutosh Jodha's prem ki raah per chalkar hame suk milne wala hi tha ki. Atleast there, Jalal didn't do any takikat and was entirely at fault. But this Jalal, who more and more seems a lost cause, half-kneeled infront of her and asked hame batayi who kaun tha..hum app per yakin karenge jodha begum is being taken on an extended guilt-trip 😲. I know he is guilty for what he did but so should she. Putting the blame entirely on him is, by god, totally unfair 🥺.

I now feel that the dream sequence was so much better - atleast Jodha was understanding towards Jalal. I can't name any other person who is stubborn as to not hear her own antaratma, or stick to her own thoughts. I mean she realised that the mistake was hers, so why not accept it. In the letter at the last, when she said galti appki nahi hai, I was thinking ok maybe she will accept her fault now. But what does she goes on about next - ...aurat ko hi agnipariksha deni padti hai.. For the first time, I wanted to smash her head with something.

Yes, she needed to go away so why not write in the letter that see sehenshah, you are not the only one at fault. Circumstances were such that I couldn't tell you. Though we both tried to make our relationship strong, we somehow always fall short with our trust for each other and end up hurting one another. Maybe it's the sign from fate that we are not meant to be in each other's life. So I am packing up my bags with kanna and leaving this pagalkhanna.

Jalal: Jalal is being blamed entirely for this situation because he himself is allowing it. Period. And I have nothing more to say about it.

Aunty, I was not this disappointed during the worst episodes of Ben track. CV's now better come up with a script that matches to that track ending.

About your P.S. aunty. In the divorce track, after reading Rukayya's letter to Humayun, Salima comes to Jodha and says that she felt really bad when reading the letter. So Jodha must have known that Jalal can't read, otherwise, why would Salima read a letter that is personal to Jalal-Rukayya. I thought CV's took gajini's path for the dhakka episode, but apparently not and Jodha very much knows he can't read. Imagine that. Everyone kept thinking that she will get to know that he can't read and so will try to clear the letter MU.

Originally posted by: divyavm

Amazing post Aunty! Please PM folks that it is hidden here! I was about to log off!

I agree with your PS completely! It makes no sense ... The reading instructions.

Will respond more tomorrow when my eyes open wider 😊

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Aunty,

I thought that the wordings of the letter were a let down. The SW who wrote for angry Jalal on Friday did his homework well and covered all the points. But today the letter which is supposed to be a very important part of the story was a let down

The part saying, had I loved another man... I would have done jauhar part was fine.

But couldn't it have been ...though I grina-ed you initially later as I told you it changed. Prem ka kamal or whatever had begun to bloom and you crushed it with your anger. What else but love would prompt a person to drink poison for another. But you mocked even that. In what action of mine thus far did you see me capable of zinakari. You had once accused me of adultery earlier, that you yourself proved wrong. But at that time you trusted me. But now you declare to have fallen in love with me. Why not the similar trust? My silence I agree was hurting you. But I wish you had trusted me a little more. Given me a little more time to prove myself . Has our relationship that has progressed from distinct hatred for each other to love, seen extremes and withstood thunderstorms capable of that.

I really wish my brother had not bound me by that vachan that sealed my lips and gave you so much pain . If not for the vachan I would you have told you right at the start. You don't know, how guilty I felt at hiding the meetings from you. May be I was wrong. I don't know. I agree, you were not at fault either...the circumstances forced you to think otherwise...but was adultery the only explanation you could come up with. I am not blaming you but perhaps bhagya is not my friend.

I felt angry and fought against your earlier accusation of adultery. But this time I feel hurt and broken and cannot bear it as I have fallen in love with you. I cannot take it again and again and hence I leave.

Then...the don't send sena part... and wherever I am my prayers are there for you.

The vachan and hriday part of the letter sounded totally irrelevant and in fact strangely funny. The letter itself in most parts was incoherent and contradictory.

Hallo aunty,

Thank you for your PM.

I didn't watch the Tuesday or Wednesday epi. But by what I read in your post, written updates and also the posts in your thread, I can very confidently say that yesterday's episode can be watched at a later day or never at all...for I am sure these type of thorough obtuseness from Mahaan Jodha is not worth riling up my gastric juices.

I deduce that she left a letter ( so she doesn't feel that she has created enough drama with her brother, she need now to do a Diva-fied exit too?) to express her sorrow, her pain, her disappointment. On how she could not stay a moment longer (after she had been informed that her dear darling brother and her accomplice has been spared) carrying the hurt that he suspected her?

If I could, I would love to ask her what my grandpa used to ask us when we were young and got caught doing something stupid ' you eat rice or grass? you got brain in your head or clay?' Now i understand the real value of my grandpa's wisdom. Was she not the same woman who was acknowledging she had wronged her husband by hiding the truth? Why is that everyone elses antaratma talks them into path of change for good, but hers takes her to the path of damnation?

Is it a Rajvanshi trait or Hindu woman trait (sorry I mean no offence to you or your readers aunty, but Jodha is a Hindu Rajvanshi right?) that she has it ingrained in her to evoke non-existent vachans and also expect the unsuspecting person to be tied to it? And what about her vachan? IF I remember it right, she was the one who took an oath during their wedding, not him. And in no marriage, there exist a promise to trust you NO MATTER WHAT...no one can be asked to take that type of dumb promise. Was she not supposed to honor and love her husband until her last breath?

I called sujamal foolish, callous, selfish and coward.

From what I read, I really do not see much different the highly revered and glorified Jodha. She is very foolish to have held on to that vachan even when her husband went thrashing about literally and metaphorically. She is callous for writing this letter and with every emphasize turning the blame on him. Very selfish to have only left when the brother has escaped death, and not offering the reasoning to Jalal in person...this to me is the perfect emotional blackmail a woman would do...the type that I hate so much. To pile guilt onto your opponent on their weakest moment to prove your supremacy and false innocence. She is a coward too, for she left Agra, easy way out rather than staying and facing him and building back what is broken.

Does she not understand that she does not have the right to be angry with Jalal? Does she not understand that she has no right to wail and howl on his lost trust of her? Does she not understand that is not the duty of a husband to blindly trust his wife, but for both husband and wife to conduct themselves in manners such that there will never be a question on their fidelity? Does she not understand that for her to expect him to love and respect her, she must make herself worthy of the same? Does she not understand that when love is given to her (which was proved during the Ben track ...all the things Moti told her about him) she need to cherish and protect it?

People often think that understanding or giving in are one the things needed to mend relationships. In fact acknowledging your own mistakes and saying sorry alone will not be enough too. It takes a lot of courage, It's easier to run away. It's very hard to stay on face the person, overcome the awkwardness and build back the broken trust. One need to be tenacious of their intend that the marriage means more than anything to them. How does running away when you were the reason for the whole fiasco prove that>

I am so disappointed in her. All this while she annoyed me with her stupidity, bashan and self-righteousness. But today I feel completely disappointed in this sorry excuse of a person. She did not stay true to what a woman should do, stay and mend what she had broken; neither she stayed true to her royal upbringing.

I don't think I can continue watching JA...maybe before I turn into an imbecile like the CV's I better stop.

shyamala my dear! back to square one😆..jalal bure hain jallad hain poodle hain..blah ..blah..blah...jodha devi hai mahaan hai abla naari hai..akeli hai..now as usual the whole dosh on our shahenshah..did she apologize in the letter about hiding the truth..nahin na..same old..same old..blah..blah🥱🥱🥱..show us something different for a change ekta maam..aapka hum ghareebon pe bara upkaar hoga!

shyamala, i am not keeping in best of spirits these days, my bhuaji in india is not keeping too well, i hope she recovers fast!

Shyamala, thanks for the post, yes it liked the episode, but not the letter part. I liked the episode for Jalal and also somewhere Ruq was good as well. Letter reading was the worst part for me, she couldn't understand his love, longing and pain for her and to top it, she says hope you find your lost heart!???? What was that, which he poured out to her on Friday? This woman never fails to amuse me. If this is the love Jalal is yearning for, then he better not have a heart. I know self respect is very important, but when it comes to this relationship, then even self respect needs to take a side step at times, even at this era, then we are talking about 16th century. And this my opinion.

Originally posted by: KDR81

Well, unfortunately, the issues are still there and will be there for some more time as there is a whole lot of them together in a tangled mess...!! But, I am trying my level best to take off the Knots one by one...😊
I am extremely infrequent in the forum but I always read ur posts unfailingly...But today ur double-post -Treat and ur Pretty Close-up made it more special and hence egged me to put my comment , even if they are short...😊

One thing I agree big time with a few others here is that...I can't understand, Was it necessary for Jo to leave Agra like a Bhikhareen.😕?? Why,Just becoz her Pati Dev asked her to leave , she even left her beloved Sakhis and daasis behind too??

Couldn't she leave like a True Princess who knows that her Chastity is NOT limited or subject to justification by people of Agra...??😕

To me, the overtly-crying Ja and the Potli -Kanha Clutching Jo...Both were equally irritation-invoking and unnecessary...🥱

Regards,
Kamal