Jodha Akbar 212: Manna from Heaven or a mrigtrishna ? - Page 8

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Posted: 11 years ago
#71
U know aunty??
I thought IT was on Tuesday!
Bt nothing heard of it, n I thought IT to be rumour n was happy!
Bt poora Wednesday bohot kharab gaya!
Mood off tha, tabyet bigad gayi n kaam bhi thikse nahi hua!
Pata nahi chal raha tha k kya ho raha hai.. Kyun ho raha hai...
Aisa Rahul Dravid k shaadi par bhi hua tha.
Bt tab mein just school mein thi.
Ab badi ho gayi hun!
Ab Forum aake pata chala k Aaj thi Rajat ki engagement!!!!



Can u imagine my situation?
I was just not ready to read ur post.
Bt later I did.
N m glad that I did!
It cheered me up to a great extent.
Loved many parts.

I swear! Jodha n uske ornaments!!!!!!!!!

Beech beech aa jati hai.

N omg! Nirdosh pashu pakshi set to receive bhashans! Lol!!!

N Palace mein cats bhi hai??? Haila! Katengi Jalal ko! Utmost Animal Lover k sath animals jaisa behaviour kiya karke!

N Shashtang Namaskar practise? U have me taken in for sight!

Thank you for lightening up atmosphere for me.

Bt bechara mera dil!!!!

Kitna bhi bolu k I like just Jalal n not Rajat, thoda bura to lagta hi hai yaar!

Aap nahi samjhengi!
Jodha samazh paye..
Ya phir I guess Ruqayya!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#72
Adiana,

As usual, you are spot on. Both about what love is, and about the fact that Jodha is never going to get it.

I was so exasperated by the inconsistent tripe that was dished out to us tonight that I have done a vitriolic take on it, which is above , on page 9. Do take a look at it.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: adianasr

Shyamala, I have been saying that Jodha's main problem is Fear - today EK and her team of writers proved that this Jodha is ridden with Fear - she ends her letter with 'Jodha ko nahin paoge' - Since when is Love about Paana??????

Jodha ko itni samajh nahin ki Prem paane ka nahin kisi ke ho jaane ka naam hai!!! - and she calls herself Kanha ki poojaran!!! - I believe my TE understands Mohabbat better!!! He always said he wanted to 'BE Hers' just as he wanted her to 'Be His' - he was halfway there and he will reach there completely - but EK's Jodha may never end up taking that 1st step even!!!

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Episode 213: Masterly sophistry

Tonight's episode highlighted only one procont Jalal can see only his own faults, and bends over backwards apologising for them to Jodha. He cannot see hers, nor tackle them, at least not in a cool-headed, practical manner.

We knew it. Didn't we. * Edited I had accepted to watch regular tripe to view a performance like rt's on Friday. So no excessive complaints against today's tripe.

He cannot stand up for himself, he cannot assert himself like any normal husband would with any normal wife. He cannot read her the riot act and call her to order. That is in fact his problem, and Jodha Begum, who has got used to bending him to her will every time without exception, cannot understand it now if her midnight trysts are not seen by him as part of the normal behaviour of a paaksaaf patni. One cannot blame her for it, can one! Galti to Jalal ki hai.

It always is aunty. Her skll accusation is justified. Her 'moorchith hone ka anuchith laabh accusation is justified. Het go die anywhere except in Amer is justified. But if jalal accuses her of adultery after he has repeatedly seen her with another man AND after she repeatedly tells lies about it it is a crime as feelings and honour are exclusively female property. Men have no honour dignity or feelings.

She refers condescendingly now to the prem ka kamal jo ghrina ke keechad mein khilne laga, as as though she was St.Peter opening the Pearly Gates for him, and Jalal reacts with a maniacal stare that shows the whites all around the iris and makes him look demented. Which, by the way, is what he is at the moment. He is so shocked and gratified that I fully expected him to do a shashtaang namaskaar to the absent Kanha.

He looked demented indeed when she admitted to lotus beginning to bloom. But when he declared of his mohabbat that is tearing him apart she looked petrified. Wonder why? Aunty, she deserves only that *edited suryabhaan who is all words and no action


She pontificates about the vivah ke vachan, and selectively accuses Jalal of forgetting the one that he has to trust his wife under all circumstances. I have never heard of any such vachan. The man promises to provide for and protect the wife; he does not give her a blank cheque for all time to come to behave as she likes.


Which vivah ke vachan has she honoured? Did she trust her husband when he said he had not touched her? No. Did she honour him? No, she proclaimed repeatedly in public that she hated him. So what selective vivah ke vachan is she talking about now?

And when has she ever obeyed him to the letter. Now that he said leave she claims to leave as it was an order from the shahenshah! When the husband and shahesshah ordered her to come into the tent on the thunderstorm night where did her obedience go?

Her talking about the vivah ke vachan and accusing him of breaking it was the height of hypocrisy. If respecting each other was an essential vachan what about all those times that she has insulted and hurt him?

The thing is that she has pulled a very clever stunt with that letter, which is a masterly exercise in sophistry. She has now shifted the blame on to him, exculpated herself entirely, and pushed the guilt-ridden Jalal completely on the defensive.

And this just because he allows her to do so, since he is besotted with her. A normal Rajvanshi husband would have thrown her into prison or executed her on the spot on the suspicion of infidelity, and she surely knows it courtesy her maasa and her dadisaa. Woudl Bharmal have tolerated his daughter's midnight meetings, even if they were with Sujamal? Not on your life!

The day before, she was telling her antaraatma that the fault was hers because she had not told her husband the truth and maintained silence. Now she has apparently changed her tune, and is asserting that no matter WHAT she had said, he should have looked into her eyes and known the truth and trusted her!

So now Jalal is expected to be a clairvoyant on top of everything else, and peer into her eyes without worrying about another dhakka.

He is expected to know occlumency too.

Jodha has also now begun attributing her obstinate and extremely misleading silence NOT to the unbreakable vachan given to her Sujamal Bhaisa to the thes that Jalal's lack of implicit and unquestioning trust in her had caused her
. She should get a prize for revisionist thinking and re-interpretation of her past utterances and stands!

She of course does not think it necessary to lend even a passing thought to the thes her very dubious behaviour must have caused her husband, and would have caused any husband. This is a selective blame game with a vengeance!

Now, she goes out from the palace in the night like Nirupa Roy in the 1960s and 1970s films, with a bundle, the only difference being that Nirupa Roy usually had a child in tow and Jodha lugs along that heavy bronze Kanha. And when Nirupa Roy used to leave her house and hearth, it used to start raining at once, to add to the tragic impact. Here, Paridhi probably does not like getting wet, so it has not rained as yet!😉.

🤣. I was reminded of Shivaji Ganesan's sister in Parasakthi

Here you have a very pretty lone woman wandering all over the countryside. The risks to her are obvious. Soon someone, probably Sharifuddin, will kidnap her, and then Jalal will have go to her rescue.

I am sick and tired of this heroine worship and the pulling down of the male lead. I am sick of this man weeping like a faucet in full flow, and generally looking like a poodle that has been soundly kicked. Even Rajat could not salvage that weepy letter-reading session for me. Has Jalal never heard of dignified sorrow? Why does he cry so much? It is hardly edifying.

He has probably decided to take over from Menawati

Why don't they get rid of Jalal altogether, and have the show solely on Jodha & Jodha? But they won't, for it is Jalal who brings in the TRPs, and the more he prostrates himself, the higher they will rise.

Exactly. 'Vaanam azhuthal thaan indha bhoomi sirikkum.' Rajat azhuthal than the makers can laugh their way to the banks.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

PS: If Jodha instructs Moti to read her letter to Jalal, she must know that he cannot read. Is this a new piece of enlightenment, or if she knew it all along, why did she write the letter that led, eventually to the dhakka? No one knows, and no one is likely to know either.

Even if she does know of what happened she will still write a tearful emotionally blackmailing letter that even if ma were to add on words he as her husband should have honoured the vivaah vachan and understood her manodasha and not come into her hojra.

PS: WHEN HER FATHER QUESTIONED HER CHARITHRA AFTER THE BOAT RIDE WITH SURYABHAAN WHY DIDN'T SHE LEAVE AMER WITH HER KANHAA AND A POTLI PROTESTING IN ANGER AT THE INJUSTICE?


Aunty
The show is full of contradictions. It can not be denied that the Cvs want to drag it on and on and have butchered the characters and made the story redundant discrepant and a total tripe. Rajat is the only factor that still holds me to the show that I ought to have abandoned right after the Tasneem track.
Edited by -Deepzz- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#74
Take a look at my latest on page 9 above, my dear, and see if you like it too!

And don't worry, you will survive Rajat's engagement!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: RagSia

U know aunty??
I thought IT was on Tuesday!
Bt nothing heard of it, n I thought IT to be rumour n was happy!
Bt poora Wednesday bohot kharab gaya!
Mood off tha, tabyet bigad gayi n kaam bhi thikse nahi hua!
Pata nahi chal raha tha k kya ho raha hai.. Kyun ho raha hai...
Aisa Rahul Dravid k shaadi par bhi hua tha.
Bt tab mein just school mein thi.
Ab badi ho gayi hun!
Ab Forum aake pata chala k Aaj thi Rajat ki engagement!!!!

Can u imagine my situation?
I was just not ready to read ur post.
Bt later I did.
N m glad that I did!
It cheered me up to a great extent.
Loved many parts.

I swear! Jodha n uske ornaments!!!!!!!!!

Beech beech aa jati hai.

N omg! Nirdosh pashu pakshi set to receive bhashans! Lol!!!

N Palace mein cats bhi hai??? Haila! Katengi Jalal ko! Utmost Animal Lover k sath animals jaisa behaviour kiya karke!

N Shashtang Namaskar practise? U have me taken in for sight!

Thank you for lightening up atmosphere for me.

Bt bechara mera dil!!!!

Kitna bhi bolu k I like just Jalal n not Rajat, thoda bura to lagta hi hai yaar!

Aap nahi samjhengi!
Jodha samazh paye..
Ya phir I guess Ruqayya!

Edited by sashashyam - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Shyamala,
What to say...!! It seems there is a mysterious hidden book of "Non-existent" Vachans in the life of iur JA😕...which keeps showing itself up inside the heads of the leads time and again...😆

But Really, I can't wait to tell you that I really thought our TE aka Rajat was going to "Bite off " Jodha Aka Paridhi's pretty nose 😲😲..When he snarled exactly like a Sher hearing the "Mohabbat" thing...😆😛 🤣

Regards,
Kamal
(I really hope he did not have Onions or Garlic or similar smelly things before the shot...!!🤣)

P.S. It's a real pleasure to see your beautiful pix with your equally beautiful write-ups..😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#76
And I am happier to see you here again than even Jalal was to see Jodha in her rooms in his fantasy.

I hope you are in better shape and the personal problems have been tackled. Take care.

Affectionately,

Shyamala

PS: Do see my take on the latest episode on page 9 above.

Originally posted by: KDR81

Hi Shyamala,
What to say...!! It seems there is a mysterious hidden book of "Non-existent" Vachans in the life of iur JA😕...which keeps showing itself up inside the heads of the leads time and again...😆

But Really, I can't wait to tell you that I really thought our TE aka Rajat was going to "Bite off " Jodha Aka Paridhi's pretty nose 😲😲..When he snarled exactly like a Sher hearing the "Mohabbat" thing...😆😛 🤣

Regards,
Kamal
(I really hope he did not have Onions or Garlic or similar smelly things before the shot...!!🤣)

P.S. It's a real pleasure to see your beautiful pix with your equally beautiful write-ups..😊

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Amazing post aunty. I am so sick of these illogical and Heroine oriented serial that even Rajat is not able to pull me back to show. I just read your post and am happy. Don't want to get irritated seeing the episode.

Comeon, they cant show an emperor to cry always... They cant show him apologizing always be it his mistake or not.

I used to find it as one of his great characters to ask sorry when he did mistake. But now whether its his mistake or not, he runs behind Jodha asking sorry and cry buckets like a women is annoying me. I really want Akbar atma to come

and haunt these CV's for showing so illogical stuff.

They want to show the heroine as great, fine let them do so. But let it have some logic, meaning and not just for the heck of it.

Why don't they show Jodha to accept her mistake. I am ok even if she doesn't accept, but she cant blame Jalal. She cannot point the mistake on someone else.

Let me stop writing here Aunty, else I will go on and on and not sure what I would say about her.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr



Tripti, please hear the words of that (sic) letter again😡 That was no Love Confession!!! That was Jodha's ego and her pride making my TE guiltier to satisfy her guroor. I definitely preferred Draupadi today!!!

Adi, Completely agreed. Me watching Mahabharat now a days. Draupadi's acting is incredible.
JA not watching, just reading posts here.
I am not able stand this Jo reading these posts. Good i didnt watch the espisode, else i would have been very irritated...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hello Shyamla Aunty,

I completely agree with your POV... I have not watched today's episode but can't wait... As usual I couldn't hold my curiosity and read some of the post about today's episode... I am really very much disappointed with CVS... I have notice my own reaction... when ever I am frustrated with any tracks or CVS or actors... I usually post my comments😆...

Yesterday episode... I felt Rajat acting was marvelous... his tears touched my heart and Jodha... I am not too sure but was not that bad either... but sensual dream (thank god) scene I will say it's like joke... Aesa dikhane se behtar hota kuch nahi dikhate... what a Joke... Jalal kissing on her Tikaa... lol... and photography... closeup horrible... MOST IMP ...I find intensity missing... They didn't look comfortable at all... Jalal has done thousand time better job with Tansen time...and even with Ruku ... I still remember their passionate hug at the time of divorce drama...

today... again... I am very much frustrated at Jodha... What is going on with CVS... One day she is talking to herself that she is the one who is culprit and today Madam pack up and ran out of the palace... CVS thinking that viewers are stupid... Aur wants us give us a free ride of roller coaster... Really I am really disappointed at Jodha's double face...FOR THIS TRACK I AM SAYING THIS FROM THE BEGINNING JODHA IS 100% AT THE FAULT... and after today's drama I am done... On top of it... Why even in dream Jalal knee down and apologies to Jodha... That is what in his mind... He really think that he is at the fault... This can't be real... First of all he has not distrust her at all... even after seeing both of them together he constantly ask her same question... say something... and Stupidly she admit her brotherly love to him... she loves him... really 😲 My mind has so many things going on right now ... I think Ekta mem drama what u expect... women ko bichari abla nari ...par yaha pe Jodha abla nahi hai... i am screaming ... My frustration is extreme... Hope I have not written anything in stress...

Love U Aunty🤗
Bhavini
Edited by shahbhavini - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

And I am happier to see you here again than even Jalal was to see Jodha in her rooms in his fantasy.

I hope you are in better shape and the personal problems have been tackled. Take care.

Affectionately,

Shyamala

PS: Do see my take on the latest episode on page 9 above.



Well, unfortunately, the issues are still there and will be there for some more time as there is a whole lot of them together in a tangled mess...!! But, I am trying my level best to take off the Knots one by one...😊
I am extremely infrequent in the forum but I always read ur posts unfailingly...But today ur double-post -Treat and ur Pretty Close-up made it more special and hence egged me to put my comment , even if they are short...😊

One thing I agree big time with a few others here is that...I can't understand, Was it necessary for Jo to leave Agra like a Bhikhareen.😕?? Why,Just becoz her Pati Dev asked her to leave , she even left her beloved Sakhis and daasis behind too??

Couldn't she leave like a True Princess who knows that her Chastity is NOT limited or subject to justification by people of Agra...??😕

To me, the overtly-crying Ja and the Potli -Kanha Clutching Jo...Both were equally irritation-invoking and unnecessary...🥱

Regards,
Kamal

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