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charlotte74

@charlotte74

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Posted: 12 years ago

#161

Originally posted by: mayad
This is a forum whereby active discussion is essential! I am therefore glad to see a "man's" pov! I thought long and hard about responding because quiet frankly am puzzled by the many opinions whereby it appears that gender, class, status and all the other immaterial things in life seem to cause such controversy about Khushi vs. Arnav.
For those of us who have lived a life that is based on years of experience in relationships, family, love and in general just plain old life we cannot understand what the issues are! I am one such person who has lived a long life with grown up children, grandchildren and two marriages! Well one marriage and in a common law relationship for over 20 years!
What most see as in humane treatment if Khushi, I see as a young inexperience girl who just does not know when to ask for help! No one in their right minds woud subject themselves to what she did without seeking parental help or even that of the law! She reminds me of the type of individual who tries too hard to please everyone and in the long run pleases no one! Khushi does not have the experience to take on the responsibilities that she does! What was she thinking about in that very first scene when she intervened in Payal's marriage? More specifically where are the adults in her life who should be parenting her? Most recently the whole kidnapping story was at best far fetched in that she could really have saved anyone in that situation without professional help! Again where are the responsible adults in her life and why can she not ask for help! That is what parents are for! Yet in this story there us little or no parenting in terms of dealing with real life problems! But to be realistic if indeed there were to be effective parenting then there would be no show!
As far as Arnav is concerned here is another classic example of a poor little rich boy who had to grow up before his time! He was not allowed to be young and carefree he had to shoulder full family responsibilities before he could probably say the word responsibility!! So what does he know? Step on anyone and anything to get what you want ! Self preservation! Self made man! These type of folks are tough as nails and do not suffer fools gladly! But everyone has an "Achilles heel" and in his case he cannot trust in the love between a man and a woman because that equals weakness!
So bring in the daring angel named Khushi and pit her against the devil! Wha t would you expect? But In this case the devil does have a heart and the angel has seen it and cannot forget it! Love has brought about many positive changes in both of them! But it is still a work in progress!
So please stop looking at each situation in isolation because quiet frankly the show thus far has done litte to show consistency in characterization. If you compare each of Khushi's actions verses all of Arnav's you will see that they are both lacking! And this has nothing to do with looks, status or money! It has to do with upbringing an maturity. How many of you woud go to your husband employees for a loan? Counter that with how many of you would ask your employees to proposition a woman to offset her rent increase with an indecent proposal! Checkmate, both of them acted stupidly!
If I may leave you with one thought ... Please do not meddle in a husband and wife quarrels! Khushi and Arnav are husband and wife and I must agree wth Marverick in that they are both enjoying themselves despite all the challenges! Khushi knows that the root cause of Arnav's schemes is to get her back home and she is stubborn enought to fight him to the point of throwing in the towel but still making him pay for that!
Everyday is now a redemption track for these two but IPKKND style not what most forum members want!
Just my opinion. No bashing intended!
Maya
Toronto, Canada

This response is worthy of being its own post!! I love the part when you said "stop looking at each situation in isolation" ---- it is so true...in fact I mentioned something like that yesterday about IPKKND having many layers...

I totally agree with you when you say not to meddle in a husband and wife quarrels... we should let them make their decisions about how they want to carry on with their lives... let them make their own mistakes ... just sit back and watch the fun without getting over stressed

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uniqueARSHI

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Posted: 12 years ago

#162

agree with you...👍🏼 awsome episode 2day😊

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Maverick29

@Maverick29

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Posted: 12 years ago

#163

Originally posted by: serialjunkie

maverick - i am not pushing any of my thoughts into this. the fact is very simple for me - this brand of "wooing", "loving", "grey" "antics" is not entertaining me. Simple. isn't that as easy as it gets?

i am not angry. I am just a viewer with very strong opinions. And life has taught me many greys which i choose to apply on real people around me, not a show i watch for entertainment. a show must entertain and this track is not entertaining me. bas.

Sounds good! That is simple enough! Cheers

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priya

@Iriss

Sparkler

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Posted: 12 years ago

#164

Wonderful post,agree with each n every word,brought out great points,i am so loving these episodes and we are seeing how ArHi's relationship is now slowly blossoming towards friendship after so much of misunderstandings,anger and bitterness😃

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Maverick29

@Maverick29

Voyager

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Posted: 12 years ago

#165

Originally posted by: kbtr

Umm...are you telling me if your husband (say you are married if you are not for argument's sake) threw you and your family out of your home, ie, made you homeless, insulted you in front of strangers, his employees, no less, treated you like a prostitute, $ for service - do as I say - and abused you physically, emotionally and mentally, you would love this. Because hey, this is his way of showing you love, because you are a fighter? And you would love it? PUHLEEEZE!!!! If he knows her, then he should know that she tries to hide everything behind a smile and pretending to be normal. Remember the terrace incident (when he told her why he married her.) This is a classic case of abuse - plain and simple. He wants to control her because that's all he can do.

First off I am a MAN so no danger of anyone throwing me out or me experiencing what Arnav is doing! I was explaining what would make sense if they took this track in a particular direction -- This has some background -- I post regularly on Rima's threads. There my perspective of feeling terrible about making Khushi one person and ganging up on her and practically killing her emotionally were all well known.

In that sense, they finally gave her a "way out" of the emotional hell she was in. That is what I was explaining -- that this track if handled properly will eventually lead to something good.

Now to just go over what you said and just addressing them one at a time -- by the way, my being a guy should not effect objectivity on what is right and what is wrong!

So, this was made about yesterday's post and my views on today's post are on Rima's post -- There is a date thing!

What they showed today was shameful -- if they continue in that direction, well it would be terrible.

Like Harshita suggested, may be I will edit the post and say "this was meant to be for the episode shown in July 30!

Have fun!

Cheers.

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mayad

@mayad

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Posted: 12 years ago

#166

Must say ths is a lively discussion! If I may respond, I think the points you mentioned are taken out of context! No one really believes, most of all Khushi, that Arnav will see her family on the streets! Let's not forget that both these characters give as good as they get! Khushi is no saint!

I am not fond on ASR's behaviour but neither am I found of Khushi's!

Would you approve of your wife going to your employees asking for a loan?

Would you approve of your wife lying to your family about an illness? More so when that family is still reeling from lies that were told about the kidnapping and the truth withheld about something as important as her reationship with Shyam?

Woud you approve of your wife going to your demented sister when she was told not to which lead that sister into further sadness?

If you tell your wife that you will help her and she is too proud to accept your help should you then leave her alone? If Arnav did that where would she have gotten that money from?

Most of all would you approve of a wife duping her husband into signing documents that lead to his kidnapping and almost death!?

There are many more instances where Khushi's actions were less than proper or downright against the family values she's supposed to have but hey it's all in the script and the hands of the CVs!

In the current track, I may not personally like what's going on because where I come from we sit and talk out our problems, sex is not a dirty word and families do not all live together after marriage but i have learnt that Indian soaps and traditions are vastly different from my norm yet I am inexplicable drawn to this show! Must be my mid life crisis ! Lol! Also sad to say Khushi is enjoying the fights with Arvav! Just replay the episodes and see, hear her glee in getting even with him! So what does that make her?

Given Arnav's past and struggles I am in fact quite impressed with his goofy attempts at pleasing his wife! At least give him credit for telling her that he loves her!

Please do not get me wrong I respect your right to your opinion but I just thought that it was very, very strong in reference to abuse because abuse took place on both sides.

Umm...are you telling me if your husband (say you are married if you are not for argument's sake) threw you and your family out of your home, ie, made you homeless, insulted you in front of strangers, his employees, no less, treated you like a prostitute, $ for service - do as I say - and abused you physically, emotionally and mentally, you would love this. Because hey, this is his way of showing you love, because you are a fighter? And you would love it? PUHLEEEZE!!!! If he knows her, then he should know that she tries to hide everything behind a smile and pretending to be normal. Remember the terrace incident (when he told her why he married her.) This is a classic case of abuse - plain and simple. He wants to control her because that's all he can do.

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himba

@himba

Explorer

Posted: 12 years ago

#167

Originally posted by: mayad
This is a forum whereby active discussion is essential! I am therefore glad to see a "man's" pov! I thought long and hard about responding because quiet frankly am puzzled by the many opinions whereby it appears that gender, class, status and all the other immaterial things in life seem to cause such controversy about Khushi vs. Arnav.
For those of us who have lived a life that is based on years of experience in relationships, family, love and in general just plain old life we cannot understand what the issues are! I am one such person who has lived a long life with grown up children, grandchildren and two marriages! Well one marriage and in a common law relationship for over 20 years!
What most see as in humane treatment if Khushi, I see as a young inexperience girl who just does not know when to ask for help! No one in their right minds woud subject themselves to what she did without seeking parental help or even that of the law! She reminds me of the type of individual who tries too hard to please everyone and in the long run pleases no one! Khushi does not have the experience to take on the responsibilities that she does! What was she thinking about in that very first scene when she intervened in Payal's marriage? More specifically where are the adults in her life who should be parenting her? Most recently the whole kidnapping story was at best far fetched in that she could really have saved anyone in that situation without professional help! Again where are the responsible adults in her life and why can she not ask for help! That is what parents are for! Yet in this story there us little or no parenting in terms of dealing with real life problems! But to be realistic if indeed there were to be effective parenting then there would be no show!
As far as Arnav is concerned here is another classic example of a poor little rich boy who had to grow up before his time! He was not allowed to be young and carefree he had to shoulder full family responsibilities before he could probably say the word responsibility!! So what does he know? Step on anyone and anything to get what you want ! Self preservation! Self made man! These type of folks are tough as nails and do not suffer fools gladly! But everyone has an "Achilles heel" and in his case he cannot trust in the love between a man and a woman because that equals weakness!
So bring in the daring angel named Khushi and pit her against the devil! Wha t would you expect? But In this case the devil does have a heart and the angel has seen it and cannot forget it! Love has brought about many positive changes in both of them! But it is still a work in progress!
So please stop looking at each situation in isolation because quiet frankly the show thus far has done litte to show consistency in characterization. If you compare each of Khushi's actions verses all of Arnav's you will see that they are both lacking! And this has nothing to do with looks, status or money! It has to do with upbringing an maturity. How many of you woud go to your husband employees for a loan? Counter that with how many of you would ask your employees to proposition a woman to offset her rent increase with an indecent proposal! Checkmate, both of them acted stupidly!
If I may leave you with one thought ... Please do not meddle in a husband and wife quarrels! Khushi and Arnav are husband and wife and I must agree wth Marverick in that they are both enjoying themselves despite all the challenges! Khushi knows that the root cause of Arnav's schemes is to get her back home and she is stubborn enought to fight him to the point of throwing in the towel but still making him pay for that!
Everyday is now a redemption track for these two but IPKKND style not what most forum members want!
Just my opinion. No bashing intended!
Maya
Toronto, Canada

I agree with what you wrote . Sometimes not knowing when to ask for help made me land in a soup!! As for the attitude ASR has its not easy for a partner to change it in six months and i know it personally and i also know if there is love eventually the softening to some extend may happen. (it did happen to me and i have become the bad one now😆)

Maverick made a very timely post.

Thanks.