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Kasu4lyfe

@Kasu4lyfe

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Posted: 13 years ago

#131

Wow! Thanks for making such a wonderful post!This is an awesome post!! I enjoyed reading it! and i agree! Idk about others but im loving this track!!! and trust me so is khushi! She is loving all the attention she is getting from arnva but ofc she doesnt want to admit it! I love seeing their nok jhoks its awesome!

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Srija Singh

@srija.singh04

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Posted: 13 years ago

#132

u know even from a serious feminist pov, remember she left RM not cz of her self-respect or ego, it was cz of her more than humane nature, remember wen she had packed her bags after ASR shouted at har, initially he had an apologetic tone and it was only after she saiid she was leaving fr d family's happiness that he had to get into ASR mode. He knows thats the only way to keep her close and he knows she loves him equally if not more and so wwat hez doing now is not actuallyy forcing her to love him but rather trying to make her acknowledge it to herself tat they'd both die if not togethher. and people please if he had wanted to forcefully get physical with her he could hav easily done it but he has too much respect fr her and himself fr that. And the physical proximity is inevitable in any love or even hate relationship, its just indifference that can thrive in d absence of physical proximity. So guys plz spare the poor guy, hez already neck deep in troubles.

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Manvi90

@Manvi90

Explorer

Posted: 13 years ago

#133

Must say you were awesome with your explanation kudos ,real nice sensible and matured post ,I hope everybody reads this ,it kind of will set eveybodys perspective to the serial right .good for you .

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.furrii.

@.furrii.

Dazzler

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Posted: 13 years ago

#134

I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE your post!
I've been thinking the same thing and trying to explain to a million people...but people are ready only to bash the CV's and all they want is redemption track!
God, this post made my day!
Thankyou! 😃

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Raj Singh

@sammi5

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Posted: 13 years ago

#135

We need you more on this Forum to post because your post sums it up so accurate. I am 100% with you on your thought process and I am female. Every couple has their own way of working things out. Arnav knows when to stop and what his boundaries are with her, he is not abusing her with this new strategy, he is correct when he told her she is just as egotistical as he is, two stubborn mentalities, one has to use strategy to calm the other, they both understand love just shows it differently, everything Arnav is doing for Khushi is out of concern and love for both she and her family vice versa with Khushi as well. The great ASR even voluntered to get the clothes from the veranda for her, what he wouldn't do for her, it is so out of his character but because she was hurt he would fill in for her, just a little observation to add to all the great points you laid out, sometimes we have to put ourselves in a different mindset to understand the motive, everything is not always about a man being a chauvinist, thank you and look forward to reading more from you.

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693326

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Posted: 13 years ago

#136

@topicmker..standing ovation for summing it up so beautifully...cuming to toher posts in the forum...seriously man is it really needed tto look into everything in a negative light...first of all khushi IS NOT HIS SO CALLED Wife but She literally is his wife...so that way no1 is under ny1s mercy...ur post wud hv made sense if they were shwing all this b4 getting married...but now the scenario is diff...now its not abt mercy but abt HUQ on each other...nd this is jus a fun yet romantic yet passionatee trackk...why so much faltu pessimismm around it...it wud be really lamme if cvs hv shwn arnav wooing khushi like romantic heroes of other shws...but cvs turnd the .tables completely nd showingg us the wooing in asr way nd i m luving it

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askaman

@askaman

Beginner

Posted: 13 years ago

#137

ya i agree... i think he is letting her take her frustration wid him out , he is pushing her so she fights vents out all the anger and frustration and when she is tired of fighting him she wud listen and accept...

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Maverick29

@Maverick29

Voyager

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Posted: 13 years ago

#138

Originally posted by: serialjunkie
yes, this is exactly how ASR should woo khushi.

I am very happy she is made to feel her real status in life and reminded every living moment of her lack of funds because at the end of the day, she has nothing going for her but her rich sugar daddy of a husband whom she should go home with and pronto eff. The life will be alright.

ASR's wooing should break khushi's ego because boy she has one big fat ego that should be broken while ASR smells of roses because what the heck, he has earned his ego by hard work and business. All khushi has earned in her life is some useless principles and values that can barely keep the roof over her family's head and feed the four hungry mouths.

Besides, he loves her. So if she ever wanted to say go back to get educated or do another business, she should listen to ASR because he is her husband and provides a fancy house and lovely sarees, not to mention incredible sex. The last part especially makes everything alright in a relationship. It is doubly helpful because ASR is, oh god, drop dead handsome. Makes for a great husband.

Khushi should swallow her stupid ego. The girl has nothing. And man does she show attitude. She has no inner issues because frankly she is shown as a floozie of the first order who thinks shouting loudly will get her her way.

sorry maverick, not feeling it one bit.

We actually started discussing this view on Rima's post -- we can continue! I posted what I thought about today's stuff on Rima's post again. It was a bit cheap today.

But the point I want to make is this: Chori Patane ke liye tareeke alag hote hain. Agar serious chori pe dil aagaya to yeh jo aap keh rahi hain na -- self respect, feminism etc etc, uspe dhyan dena hota hain. If it is a Jhalli like Khushi who is happy go lucky but "competitive", you go after her in a different way.

You are making a point based on "people's mental makeup" -- Self respect is different in different people -- it means different things to different people. From what I see, you are pushing the "independent woman" angle. Some of what you are saying is obviously because of the "male dominated" society in India where people seem to be sidelining women all the time. I am not saying things are very different in the west -- I see the same "fight" here as well.

But what I am saying is they will get to a place where these "who dominates" and Why will stop.

Look at it NOT as a NORM or a rule that a girl should accept "domination" -- look at it as "how she decided to deal with the situation" and you will find different answers.

There are some factors that are constant:

1. It is a Man's world -- no question about it -- it is changing but it is still a man's world. So, with one show, we cannot change that.

2. She has to find "happiness" with someone she is in love with -- as time progresses things will get better and change. The fundamental thing she should look at is "is she happy?"

3. Your argument that "she cannot possibly be happy" after all he has done though right, could be different when you are being pulled towards the guy.

Let us take it to a different angle -- let us not make it a "romantic" man-woman relationship -- instead, let us make it a relationship between a parent and a child or a parental figure and a child. Think about it there -- does ego play a part if one person tends to forgive more? They never leave each other -- no matter how hard you try, you can never be separated totally from your parents -- it is a strong bond which is love again. Why apply these strong "codes" to this Romantic Relationship ONLY? Think about it, a MOM irrespective of how stupid her son is, is going to forgive him over and over again. Where is the feminism and ego in that? Why apply it here if there is "pure" love involved?

I agree from a repsonsibility stand point that Arnav should be more responsible. But as long as he is SHOWING that he is in LOVE and she reciprocates -- I dont care about ego or how they treat each other -- This is a plausible scenario. Now we can then judge whether the guy is RIGHT for her. What should he do to make it right by her. That is the approach I took.

Like I said, I will give this till the end of the week -- today's stuff on the 31st of July was disappointing to say the least! He regressed into "blackmail" instead of letting her make up her own mind. But let it play out a couple more days and see where the brain cells of the writers take it.

Cheers.

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Maverick29

@Maverick29

Voyager

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Posted: 13 years ago

#139

Originally posted by: serialjunkie
I wonder how many of us would approve of this mating ritual if ASR looked like this:-

Well you are helping me bring out one more point -- in real life nothing is driven by "just one thing" -- In real life, several things influence each and every decision we make.

Idealists believe that we should look at what is inside a person. But let us face it, when we think of a romantic relationship and what happens in the bedroom (which is one eventual aspect of any romantic relationship), what is inside doesnt help the romp in the bed.

So, if someone looked like this, he will never ever attract Khushi's attention irrespective of how much we think "IDEALISTIC". Looks help in the following way:

1. Get noticed. One you see a good looking chic you want to go talk to her -- I am sure in case of girls that are not forward, there is hope that the guy will come talk to them. This is NATURE -- agar aisa na hota to 7 billion log na hote!

2. Looks let you over look several things because of hormones that both men and women have -- that feeling we are overcome with because that other person is "attractive" in so many ways makes us overlook things.

3. Where we draw the line is when a good looking guy is truly an Ass Hole that is out to ruin people -- ASR though lacking in some good qualities, makes up with LOOKS! So if you look at the complete package for Khushi, she is actually combining the two and weighing the whole deal and saying "hum ne galti nahin ki iss se pyar karke".

SJ, you sound like an Idealist that wants to see "right" -- I am just telling you that there are several forms of arriving at that right in "romantic" stuff.

In business it is clear cut -- there is Right, WRONG and grey. Most of the work is done in "acceptable shades of Grey in this Kali Yuga based on what is acceptable to the person doing it".

That is my take.

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Maverick29

@Maverick29

Voyager

+ 4

Posted: 13 years ago

#140

Originally posted by: serialjunkie
I wonder how of many of us would approve this mating ritual if ASR was dirt poor and Khushi did this, endearing nok-jhok with him.

When we watch this I think we should look at "plausibility" of a person like Khushi ending up in love with this guy.

If we go down the route of "this is only acceptable because he is rich and handsome" -- my previous answer to you holds. Human mind is capable of so many different evaluations and weighing them. Based on our mental makeup and the situation we are in, we will accept what gives us the best shot!

My fundamental thought always is "we cannot judge based on our standards and needs". We need to see if this is "rational" first or if there is a reason for the behavior and once those two are satisfied, we deem the situation plausible.

Arnav's behavior towards Khushi in the beginning of the show was ASSHOLISH -- Is it plausible YEP but is it acceptable NOPE. Arnav's transition to trying to tease his wife to spend time with her is not "NICE" but it is a way. As long as it is backed by proper "end game" -- end always justifies the means in the age we live.

So, we cannot say we want this guy to be an IDEAL guy -- that aint happening. I dont have to tell you this -- women love flawed characters -- I said it before -- Women in general LOVE projects just like men love challenges. So, Khushi's love for him as a whole package is plausible. His transition being slow -- plausible.

If you accept this -- you will not have a problem with enjoying this current track.

What hit me negatively on previous stuff was "SINGLING OUT KHUSHI" and not giving her any break. This guy with all the time he spending with her will eventually win her over "magnanimously" -- the path is bumpy but if the WRITERS understand how a strong character like Arnav is, they will make him the MAGNANIMOUS guy he is.

Cheers.

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