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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Firebolt

Right ho.. i skimmed through some of the replies etc and boy is it a cat fight here! Domestic violence is of course a very sensitive topic(as i observed after reading many posts here) so i wont't divulge into that as i am neither married nor experienced it. With that said i just call it like i see it. Is what Arnav doing bad?Unforgivable? Yes and yes. But calling it domestic violence is a bit much,i think. (Note i am NOT defending domestic violence, please don't eat me alive!) I mean he made her sleep out in the cold for one day.. thats all its been. ! a single day! Yes it was a horrible thing.. but thats nothing new is it? That's Arnav's character isn't it? No that does not make it right BUT i dont think he's going to make her sleep outside every night (*fingers crossed*).. i mean he could barely get through one night. He's gone through a lot in one night ( point to note - ONE NIGHT) and so has she. If she wanted she could have screamed, told everyone one the truth etcetc BUT she didn't cause thats her character isn't it? And ya she pushed Arnav pretty hard a few episodes ago didn't she? If you are calling this Domestic violence than that is too i think..(to be politically correct and all that). But in my opinion both of them were acts of passion and completely SINGULAR events and i don't see a continuing trend..(unless you know, its in bed😉) although there may be some angry shoulder grabbing but that was there before as well so if ppl wanted to hate then ppl should have hated from the start... if guys did not have the patience/ time to read my entire rant then,


Bottom line is, you cant call a lion a pig just because it rolled in the mud for a day!



In a fit of passion you can't justify the wrong. What is wrong is wrong, and this isn't the first time Arnav/Asr has done such a act, he had done it before leaving khushi out in the cold treating her worse than a household pet. It was wrong before and it is wrong now. You cannot default it just saying he did in an act of love,anger,passion,revenge because in the end nothing holds.

Agreed rolling in the mud for a day is not equivalent to calling him a pig but set and done Arnav/ASR image has been tarnished to an extent, Just for the sake of a better tomorrow one must not become blind to the deed of today.

And honey you need to research domestic violence because what arnav did was such, only burning, and beating isn't equivalent to violence, infact the mental and emotional ones are worse because they hold scars on the inside that take longer to heal than the physical ones. Arnav treated khushi worse when she was only some girl to him and today also when she is his wife not some girl anymore. In the end he was wrong today and yesterday --- i won't say he can't change in the future, he should infact i want him too but for the reason of today, his image is scarred.Everything he has done to khushi cannot be justified by any means from the marriage to sleeping outside.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Ok I have been reading this thread on and off, saw the closure and saw it reopening, nice to know healthy free discussion continues and the free speech and opinions are being voiced, more power to free speech. 👏
Misclog, I am commenting here coming from your thread, that post is superb indeed. 👏👏👏
I am big fan of good writing. And we have some really good ones on this forum.
SJ good job keeping the discussion open.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: misclog2003



<div>Good you fell in the trap. ASR and Kushi are equals. So true.VOW !!. He had the power to balck mail her, and they are equals. He had the power to make her, her sister, his brother and entire family cry by stopping the marriage, and they are equals.

You know why I gave the example. To show, it is abuse when people with the power mistreat people who are not their equals.

You know who ASRs equal is Shyam. Becausse Shyam can easily balck mail ASR saying, go ahead tell Anjali, I will divorce her. And that is why Shyam. is getting a second chance. but you will fail to see that as well.

If the mother hits, slaps the child, and if the child asks the mother what he did to desrve the discpine and the mom choses to keep punishing the child, yes such a mother desrve to be in jail. Only a mother would know what I am saying.



I gather that you don't think they are equals... My actual point was that in ralationship a man and women are definitely equals it's an entirely different matter if one lets the other person push them around which is the case here I think... Khushi, as we all know, is feisty when she wants to be .where was that fire that night??? As much as he would like to beleive ,he doesn't have that much power over payash... If he had stopped the wedding nobody but mami would have been happy he knows this and khushi should have too, but she didn't ,she chose to be the victim. The point Again being I never said she wasn't the victim or that Arnav is a saint... I am just saying that both of them are going through a difficult time, both of them have grown as characters and to say otherwise is what I disagree with.
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Posted: 13 years ago
@firebolt *sigh* yes "once" is one time too many.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Come on Guys it is just FICTION...SO chillax!!!

I have seen worser dramas and If you want to speak up against "domestic violence" then do it for the real victims in REAL LIFE!

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Ri_luvs_ArShi

Come on Guys it is just FICTION...SO chillax!!!


I have seen worser dramas and If you want to speak up against "domestic violence" then do it for the real victims in REAL LIFE!



so just because it is reel its okay to show such treatment towards women?so i am sure next time you see this kind of treatment in real, you will say, come on its their household matter,why should we intervene?

good to know where you stand!
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Posted: 13 years ago
@misclog and Firebolt...very interesting aspect...
a marriage is supposed to be a union of equals...when entered into by both parties by thier own accord...so that comes into play were they equals to begin with...
historically the women was in a position of risk due to enequality in age education control in wealth and society...
Now potentially all that is equal...so gender is not the bias but if at some point one is more powerful than the other and chooces to eercise the diff to their advantage (gender no bar)
so coming to this scenario...he is def in a position of power...wealth, physical et al layed aside he has emotionally put her in a tight lock (payal who she once b4 was unintentionally the cause ...) now she has no security...like her support system is nil...so it still early stages and we have to wait and see if Khushi is going to be a victim or balance the equation and if ASR infact is able to come back
on the bright side most abusers relish on the power (which is not evident here...he shows remorse even while partaking in the act...its not after the fact...) he still believes she is endagering something dear to him he is fighting back with everything he has got...the length he goes to can be extreme but he has been hit below the belt...for all the famous analogies of animals he is a hurt one and a lioness at that I think protecting his young (Anj)
I'd love to see here that the potential victim Khushi takes power back and are at equal play and then the healing starts...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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*Sigh* i guess i've bitten off more than i can chew??😆 I guess i didn't express what i wanted to clearly enough... I am not defending Arnav's actions nor questioning yalls take on DV...Perhaps its been one time too many but how many times has KASR hurled words at Arnav, questioned his character, insulted him? They are explosive, BOTH of them... I just think Khushi is not as helpless as ppl make her out be... she too made some choices which she thought were right when it didn't have to be that way... So after recommendation i did wiki Domestic violence- it is defined as a pattern of abusive behaviors by one partner against another in an intimate relationship such as marriage, dating, family, or cohabitation. domestic violence, so defined, has many forms, including physical aggression or assault (hitting, kicking, biting, shoving, restraining, slapping, throwing objects), or threats thereof; sexual abuse; emotionalabuse; controlling or domineering; intimidation; stalking; passive/covert abuse (e.g., neglect); and economic deprivation.

Right ho... their entire relationship is Domestic violence????? Got it. Totally.
Lets all listen to "Love the way you lie". That wiki just made their entire relationship moot.
Edited by Firebolt - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Ri_luvs_ArShi

Come on Guys it is just FICTION...SO chillax!!!


I have seen worser dramas and If you want to speak up against "domestic violence" then do it for the real victims in REAL LIFE!

I dont think any one here is unaware of that . It is fiction and that is why we can be oservers and discuss it and issue raised by fiction that chooses to portray it...Again I reiterate it is abuse we are discussing a situation that fictional charactors are going thru yet reflect on very real situations ...
real lif victims in real lif as you say need support and unless we are all aware of what abuse is it is not easily visible it is discussions like this that provide the education and awareness...so I hope I am making sense I think this topic has gone way beyond ASR and Khushi and their pool side situation...it has thanx to the forum given abuse a platform to be discussed in a civil manner and expose a very varying group to the merits and demerits of same
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Ri_luvs_ArShi

Come on Guys it is just FICTION...SO chillax!!!


I have seen worser dramas and If you want to speak up against "domestic violence" then do it for the real victims in REAL LIFE!



Would it then be ok for Khushi to push, shove, drop him from rooftop, and bruise Arnav when she is mad at him?
Would it be ok for her squeeze his arm so hard he is covering his bruises from his family and friends the next day?
Would it be ok for Khushi to Blackmail Arnav in future that if he ruins her sisters life, she will ruin his sisters life?
Would it be ok for Khushi to ridicule Arnav that a business man of his stature has no brains on how to handle his own brother in law?
Will the forum accept his behavior from Khushi?

CVs can easily change her character to become the abuser in future and totally justify that she has so many scars from her past that she is now equally flawed as Arnav. Would that make it all better?

If its not good for the goose, its not good for the gander.

The point is, domestic abuse is domestic abuse whether done by ASR or Khushi. There is no qualifying domestic abuse, it is what it is.


Edited by serialjunkie - 13 years ago

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