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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: serialjunkie



😆 Dont worry, if the show ever kills one of the leads, you know they can refer the SP manual of Cliches and bring the twin in. Gasp!! another Humshakal story would fit right in, we already got rest of the masala.


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Posted: 13 years ago
I've been a silent member of IF for quite a while now but I just had to comment on this brilliant, most amazing thread!! I have seen DV firsthand in my life. Yes, my father was an abuser...still is. This is something very close to me, because I've seen my mom suffer (she's still with him). Delusioned into thinking that he's the perfect husband, and he just has this "bad streak that comes out only once in a while". She love this show btw. and finds what ASR is doing to be perfectly fine. I wouldn't expect anything more anyway, the show is an extension of the perfect love story that she never had

Coming to the show, I've found myself giving Arnav way too much leeway for his actions, always thinking that he still had a shot at redemption. but it's all gotten way out of control now...he's shown classic examples of an abuser, and worse it's being romanticized!! I've had enough of this in my life, I don't need to see it on television. To be honest, I actually liked Shyam better for Khushi (BEFORE WE FOUND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT HIM, before you guys think I'm crazy). He was nicer, more civilized, and actually knew how to treat a woman (now we know why he was like that though!). Can we just please get KKG away from the douches...and towards someone more nicer? LIKE NK PERHAPS! he was the sweetest, most kindest, and the best male character on the show...by far!

and anyway, i always found the whole 18year old girl falling in love with a much older man to be very disturbing...add in some man-handling, two beautiful leads and you've got yourself a HOT PASSIONATE LOVE STORY FOR THE MASSES! 🤢 way to go cv's, way to go!
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Posted: 13 years ago
@CDlove@ serialjunkie. Nahiii... You guys are scaring me yaar!! The only reason I put up the sad scenes is the fact that they will eventually get together... And you guys...*sob* * slams iPhone onto floor*

ps dramatic is my middle name!Lol
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: mandymeggy

I've been a silent member of IF for quite a while now but I just had to comment on this brilliant, most amazing thread!! I have seen DV firsthand in my life. Yes, my father was an abuser...still is. This is something very close to me, because I've seen my mom suffer (she's still with him). Delusioned into thinking that he's the perfect husband, and he just has this "bad streak that comes out only once in a while". She love this show btw. and finds what ASR is doing to be perfectly fine. I wouldn't expect anything more anyway, the show is an extension of the perfect love story that she never had

Coming to the show, I've found myself giving Arnav way too much leeway for his actions, always thinking that he still had a shot at redemption. but it's all gotten way out of control now...he's shown classic examples of an abuser, and worse it's being romanticized!! I've had enough of this in my life, I don't need to see it on television. To be honest, I actually liked Shyam better for Khushi (BEFORE WE FOUND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT HIM, before you guys think I'm crazy). He was nicer, more civilized, and actually knew how to treat a woman (now we know why he was like that though!). Can we just please get KKG away from the douches...and towards someone more nicer? LIKE NK PERHAPS! he was the sweetest, most kindest, and the best male character on the show...by far!

and anyway, i always found the whole 18year old girl falling in love with a much older man to be very disturbing...add in some man-handling, two beautiful leads and you've got yourself a HOT PASSIONATE LOVE STORY FOR THE MASSES! 🤢 way to go cv's, way to go!



mandymeggy, first my hugs to you for sharing what must be a painful memory and experience for you and your mother. I think when the show makers shoot the scenes, they dont realize the potency of what they show can have a big impact on the masses. I have never approved of censorship and I believe every channel has a right to show what they want to show to its core audience. What I have a patent problem with is hypocrisy. On the one hand, SP claims it cannot show proper love scenes between ARHI because its a show aired during family hour and those love scenes can lead the youth astray, and on the other hand, the same channel does not miss a beat showing mis-treatment of a woman at the hands of her so called love-interest. How hypocritical is that?

If SP wants stop the Bull-Shiitake Mushrooms then it better do it across the board. The same young people who get corrupted with love scenes can equally or much worse get corrupted by the aggression shown.

finally, if its not hard for you to share (you dont have to if you dont want, and i will perfectly understand), what were your mom's reasons to continue in the relationship? Social stigma? financial dependence? kids?
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Posted: 13 years ago
Smriti

Can I post this thread on LM' wall if you dont mind. There are crazy people there too who are glorifying ASR's actions and who think his twitching of his fingers and feeling the pain or loving her later and regretting later is going to make everything all rosy again. And I dont understand why some people think they own this forum and come out to defend one character or the other. We all can express our opinions good or bad that is why its called a forum. If someone not interested in a particular thread they should refrain from passing comments simple. But instead they make so many threads asking people not to bash characters. We all love this show thats why we all are here. People who tell us to grow up should first grow up themselves and differentiate between romance and abuse. I am a die hard fan of ASR too and my marriage a perfect M&B story and its saddening to see CV's destroy such a wonderful character.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Ash95

Smriti


Can I post this thread on LM' wall if you dont mind. There are crazy people there too who are glorifying ASR's actions and who think his twitching of his fingers and feeling the pain or loving her later and regretting later is going to make everything all rosy again. And I dont understand why some people think they own this forum and come out to defend one character or the other. We all can express our opinions good or bad that is why its called a forum. If someone not interested in a particular thread they should refrain from passing comments simple. But instead they make so many threads asking people not to bash characters. We all love this show thats why we all are here. People who tell us to grow up should first grow up themselves and differentiate between romance and abuse. I am a die hard fan of ASR too and my marriage a perfect M&B story and its saddening to see CV's destroy such a wonderful character.



go for it Ash. Although I doubt it will make any difference to any of them. First hand experience with domestic abuse or watching a friend go through it tells you how unpalatable and reprehensible this is.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: serialjunkie



go for it Ash. Although I doubt it will make any difference to any of them. First hand experience with domestic abuse or watching a friend go through it tells you how unpalatable and reprehensible this is.


Thanks Smriti

Even if one person changes their view reading all this and understanding the word abuse then we all have achieved something. I am 43 and seen enough of this world. i am basically from Bangalore lived in Dubai for 10 years and here in UK since last 10 years now and I have seen many of these incidents to know and feel for such women.
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Posted: 13 years ago
There is a Pakistani drama called "MERE QATIL MERE DILDAR".

The leads have a love marriage, but the guy turns out to be total spineless and the girl is tortured by her in-laws and lusted by her jeth who is married to a nice wife who is also suffering from domestic abuse.

Then the same spineless guy divorces her because of his bua, who is a big dhaba of a woman.

I saw few of the episodes could not stomach the abuse on that poor girl. So I stopped watching that show.

In that story the guy knew what is happening to his wife but did not do anything about stopping his family.

In this ASR was wrong what he did to Khushi. The only reason some are defending him is because they are seeing through his eyes and pov. ASR does not know she is innocent.

There is no trust between them. Its a fact, Khushi did not trust him with Shayms truth.Right now Arnav is not trusting.

When he did that I wanted Khushi to bang on his glass door and he would have no other choice to let her in.

Only way to stop being a victim of domestic abuse is to fight. Women may be weak physically but we have other strengths as well.

Before you answer me read my post with an open mind.

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Posted: 13 years ago
Ash i have read the posts on LM's wall, there are some highly delusional people out there. It's saddening to even try to get your point across to them. If you refer to one of the pics i posted before it is from an ipkknd fan page, although i have maintained my anonymity there. I destroy my peace just reading about them fantasizing their way through the abuse. I am so glad i have like minded people in this forum and i can be true to the person i am here.
I can perhaps now share a moment here about how a very dear friend of mine went through physical abuse and kept shut for a whole year because she was scared that her parents would be shattered if she would utter the word "divorce". She kept shut only because she had chosen to get married to this man.

One day she was gasping for breath because she was being beaten up, she yelled out for help and the neighbors broke open the door and saved her. After that there was no thinking twice. She was divorced in a matter of months. It's been 3 years to this but she says she will never get married again.
Where as her ex has swiftly moved on and started a new life with another woman.

So here if we put Khushi a young 18 year old, let her go through the pain and torture - and then expect her to start a life again with another man, oh wait we want her to be with Arnav forever, which is down right insane.

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: serialjunkie



mandymeggy, first my hugs to you for sharing what must be a painful memory and experience for you and your mother. I think when the show makers shoot the scenes, they dont realize the potency of what they show can have a big impact on the masses. I have never approved of censorship and I believe every channel has a right to show what they want to show to its core audience. What I have a patent problem with is hypocrisy. On the one hand, SP claims it cannot show proper love scenes between ARHI because its a show aired during family hour and those love scenes can lead the youth astray, and on the other hand, the same channel does not miss a beat showing mis-treatment of a woman at the hands of her so called love-interest. How hypocritical is that?

If SP wants stop the Bull-Shiitake Mushrooms then it better do it across the board. The same young people who get corrupted with love scenes can equally or much worse get corrupted by the aggression shown.

finally, if its not hard for you to share (you dont have to if you dont want, and i will perfectly understand), what were your mom's reasons to continue in the relationship? Social stigma? financial dependence? kids?



Yes, it is painful coz I never knew that what was happening wasn't normal. I mean, how would i? that's all I'd ever seen my whole life- him shouting at her, hitting her, restricting her from talking to our relatives, shouting at us (i have an older sister). and all for the most randomest reasons he could find. It took a while to accept that my dad isn't normal, he isn't like other people's dads...and I have come to terms with it. Mostly coz of my older sister, she's played a huge role, but I think i knew all along, I just didnt' want to face it. and that's exactly what my mom is doing. she denies it, everytime we bring it up she retaliates with the good things he's done for us (i say those are things that any normal father would do for his children, nbd). and yes, I would say lots of social stigma invoved (She won't admit it, but I know she's afraid to speak out), and also like most indian women, she was a very sheltered person before marriage, so for her to even think of divorce was like out of the question. We've honestly given up on her, and I myself can't wait to start working and not have to depend on him for money 😔

Sorry for the rant, but i just wish we could see some more woman empowerment on Indian tv. I try to defend our tv to my friends who don't watch Indian serials, and then i get continually let down bu shows like these, that is incidentally ruling the trp charts, which is beyond my understanding 😕 your post truly came as a ray of light, and I saw that you wanted to send a letter to SP regarding this. If there is any development on that, I'd gladly like to be a part of it. glad to be a part of strong, independent, intelligent woman who know the difference between right and wrong and tell it for what it is 😊.

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