ASR only had one choice? Really?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Disclaimer :

I am attempting to commit forum suicide with this post. But please read this with an open mind.

I am not writing this to sensationalize anything. I have utmost respect and admirations for BS and SI. They are definitely two of the top 5 actors in Telly Land – for me. They keep exchanging number 1 rank for me – in my mind.

My negativity is also not against any post, poster, CVs etc.

Only point I am trying to make is, can't every coin have two sides.

Shyam falsely got engaged to Kushi. There was quite some time before Kushi knew his truth. He never tried to steal a kiss from her, all though he was her fianc (remember except viewers no one knew the truth about him). He never spoke to her harshly. Never called her status, her intelligence or anything to question. Even when confronted by ASR, he says, he doesn't love his wife and is in love with someone else and probably wants divorce from his wife.

I know bear with me, I am sounding like I am defending Shyam. But please read on.

Shyam fell for someone. He also does not believe in marriage and wants to leave his current relationship for Kushi. The reason Shyam is wrong is because he full well knows Kushi absolutely dislikes him and absolutely hates him. That is why what he is doing is wrong.

But let us think from different point of view – maybe as ASR. You are ASR and for all practical purposes fell in love with Kushi – when you are supposedly in a relation (call it what ever – he didn't believe in marriage, so the story suggested, live-in was equivalent to marriage for him) with Lavanya. You knew how much in love Lavanya was with You. You knew how her hopes and dreams were shattered when she realized you were not in love with her, all because, you were falling for another woman with whom you were not in a relation. You did not even know if Kushi would be interested in you. It could be Kushi was in love with someone else. But the correct thing to do was, you were not in love with Lavanya and it was not right for her or to keep her in a relationship with you, irrespective of you getting Kushi or not. The right thing to do. So you broke of the relation, Lavanya understood and exited. Problem solved. Lavanya was shattered. But she moved on.

Now you being ASR think, Shyam is married, but does not believe in his marriage, wants to leave your beloved sister and be with a girl who he claims is his true happiness. You being ASR also think, this girl is in love with Shyam. So for you Shyam and Kushi are in love. Shyam also doesn't believe in his marriage. Just like the logical way you solved problem of You – Lavanya – Kushi triangle, what would have been the logical solution of the problem of Shyam – Anjali – Kushi.

I know, everyone will say, he did the only thing he can do. Why was torturing Kushi the only thing to do. If he could balck mail couldn't he balckmail Shyam.

He could go and explain Profit and Loss to Shyam. He could tell Shyam, until Di delivers the baby you be nice to her, stay away from Kushi for 6 months. Once the baby is here, Di is strong, I personally will see to it that, Di gives you a divroce and you can happily be with your lover. But if you meet Kushi between now and next 6 months, I will have you killed in an accident and Di will be better off being a widow than a divorcee and I will make sure your precious Kushi also is hurt. No?

He said, he had to do something for his sister. He blackmailed Kushi saying do this for your sister. He is balckmailing someone for his sister. If that person is ready to do what you are blackmailing her for, how is your love for your sister being understood more than Kushi's love for her sister? Marriage was finished. Yet she walked with you outside and got married to you. You stood like a mute when everyone was yelling at you and demanding an answer. That was the only way Kushi could have gotten slapped. If he said, it is none of your businees, Kushi and I have our reasons to get married, we will tell you in due time, no one including Guptas would have dared press him further. No?

What if Kushi said, he blackmailed me into marrying him for his sister's sake, or else he said he will stop Paayals wedding, that is why I married him. What would have happened then. What if she said, this is a fake marriage, now I will see how you will stop Paayal's shaadi, as it already happened. What would have happened then. What if she said, now you will create problem in Paayal's marriage and have Akash divorce her? Is that what you will do, now that I called your bluff and break this contract marrige? What would have happened then?

She did not. She kept quite. Suffering. How come he who can do so much for his sister, not realise there could be more to the story than what he saw and heard. How.

It pains me, because, ASR is arrogant. I like him like that. He talks status and intelligence etc. I like him like that. ASR is ruthless and I for sure like him like that.

But what I cannot like about ASR is acting like a typicla villain who can only prey on utterly impresionable 18 year old females.

Someone even said, Kushi will realize this was a good thing. Please. An 18 year old, who has taken the Guptas burdens on her is being emotionally scarred like this, and people think it is good for her, just because ASR is played by Barun and we all love Barun and we all know ASR deep down loves Kushi, so Kushi will be alright. Just like everyone can understand ASRs pain as he doesn't know the truth of Shyam completely, but no one is ready to accept Kushi's pain and how cruel of a punishment this is for a 18 year old and actually say ASR loves Kushi so it is ok what is happening.

Yes. It is a story. Yes, CVs have every right to tell it like they want. Yes Barun is better than 90% of actors in the country. But let is not forgive and glorify ASR because we understand his pain, but turn a blind eye to Kushis pain.

How can women be so indifferent to a women's pain is beyond me.

Sorry if I ruffled any feathers. If people think, I should keep my opinions to myself or get lost from the forum. So be it. But I had to say this and I did.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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far where i am seeing he just married her to protect her ,as he can't share her
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😊 I shared it on the FB in sort of fan page.. I truly feel the same. I am a fan but unfortunately i too have a brain and completely agree to your points.. Definately its a reel story and was fun to watch till this Shyam track started. I also think they are trying to give every character a slot but in return they are loosing the charm. IF at all they put some sense in this drama again it'll be worth. Else sooner or later people will find another better series to love and glorify. BS & SI rock and they will be fav among all the viewers even if IPKKND turn a flop show... Keeping my fingers crossed to have something nice else I am not interested in watching another person's miserable life.

Cheeers for Penning it down so precisely...👏


Originally posted by: misclog2003

Disclaimer :

I am attempting to commit forum suicide with this post. But please read this with an open mind.

I am not writing this to sensationalize anything. I have utmost respect and admirations for BS and SI. They are definitely two of the top 5 actors in Telly Land ' for me. They keep exchanging number 1 rank for me ' in my mind.

My negativity is also not against any post, poster, CVs etc.

Only point I am trying to make is, can't every coin have two sides.

Shyam falsely got engaged to Kushi. There was quite some time before Kushi knew his truth. He never tried to steal a kiss from her, all though he was her fianc (remember except viewers no one knew the truth about him). He never spoke to her harshly. Never called her status, her intelligence or anything to question. Even when confronted by ASR, he says, he doesn't love his wife and is in love with someone else and probably wants divorce from his wife.

I know bear with me, I am sounding like I am defending Shyam. But please read on.

Shyam fell for someone. He also does not believe in marriage and wants to leave his current relationship for Kushi. The reason Shyam is wrong is because he full well knows Kushi absolutely dislikes him and absolutely hates him. That is why what he is doing is wrong.

But let us think from different point of view ' maybe as ASR. You are ASR and for all practical purposes fell in love with Kushi ' when you are supposedly in a relation (call it what ever ' he didn't believe in marriage, so the story suggested, live-in was equivalent to marriage for him) with Lavanya. You knew how much in love Lavanya was with You. You knew how her hopes and dreams were shattered when she realized you were not in love with her, all because, you were falling for another woman with whom you were not in a relation. You did not even know if Kushi would be interested in you. It could be Kushi was in love with someone else. But the correct thing to do was, you were not in love with Lavanya and it was not right for her or to keep her in a relationship with you, irrespective of you getting Kushi or not. The right thing to do. So you broke of the relation, Lavanya understood and exited. Problem solved. Lavanya was shattered. But she moved on.

Now you being ASR think, Shyam is married, but does not believe in his marriage, wants to leave your beloved sister and be with a girl who he claims is his true happiness. You being ASR also think, this girl is in love with Shyam. So for you Shyam and Kushi are in love. Shyam also doesn't believe in his marriage. Just like the logical way you solved problem of You ' Lavanya ' Kushi triangle, what would have been the logical solution of the problem of Shyam ' Anjali ' Kushi.

I know, everyone will say, he did the only thing he can do. Why was torturing Kushi the only thing to do. If he could balck mail couldn't he balckmail Shyam.

He could go and explain Profit and Loss to Shyam. He could tell Shyam, until Di delivers the baby you be nice to her, stay away from Kushi for 6 months. Once the baby is here, Di is strong, I personally will see to it that, Di gives you a divroce and you can happily be with your lover. But if you meet Kushi between now and next 6 months, I will have you killed in an accident and Di will be better off being a widow than a divorcee and I will make sure your precious Kushi also is hurt. No?

He said, he had to do something for his sister. He blackmailed Kushi saying do this for your sister. He is balckmailing someone for his sister. If that person is ready to do what you are blackmailing her for, how is your love for your sister being understood more than Kushi's love for her sister? Marriage was finished. Yet she walked with you outside and got married to you. You stood like a mute when everyone was yelling at you and demanding an answer. That was the only way Kushi could have gotten slapped. If he said, it is none of your businees, Kushi and I have our reasons to get married, we will tell you in due time, no one including Guptas would have dared press him further. No?

What if Kushi said, he blackmailed me into marrying him for his sister's sake, or else he said he will stop Paayals wedding, that is why I married him. What would have happened then. What if she said, this is a fake marriage, now I will see how you will stop Paayal's shaadi, as it already happened. What would have happened then. What if she said, now you will create problem in Paayal's marriage and have Akash divorce her? Is that what you will do, now that I called your bluff and break this contract marrige? What would have happened then?

She did not. She kept quite. Suffering. How come he who can do so much for his sister, not realise there could be more to the story than what he saw and heard. How.

It pains me, because, ASR is arrogant. I like him like that. He talks status and intelligence etc. I like him like that. ASR is ruthless and I for sure like him like that.

But what I cannot like about ASR is acting like a typicla villain who can only prey on utterly impresionable 18 year old females.

Someone even said, Kushi will realize this was a good thing. Please. An 18 year old, who has taken the Guptas burdens on her is being emotionally scarred like this, and people think it is good for her, just because ASR is played by Barun and we all love Barun and we all know ASR deep down loves Kushi, so Kushi will be alright. Just like everyone can understand ASRs pain as he doesn't know the truth of Shyam completely, but no one is ready to accept Kushi's pain and how cruel of a punishment this is for a 18 year old and actually say ASR loves Kushi so it is ok what is happening.

Yes. It is a story. Yes, CVs have every right to tell it like they want. Yes Barun is better than 90% of actors in the country. But let is not forgive and glorify ASR because we understand his pain, but turn a blind eye to Kushis pain.

How can women be so indifferent to a women's pain is beyond me.

Sorry if I ruffled any feathers. If people think, I should keep my opinions to myself or get lost from the forum. So be it. But I had to say this and I did.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Khushi4Arnav

😊 I shared it on the FB in sort of fan page.. I truly feel the same. I am a fan but unfortunately i too have a brain and completely agree to your points.. Definately its a reel story and was fun to watch till this Shyam track started. I also think they are trying to give every character a slot but in return they are loosing the charm. IF at all they put some sense in this drama again it'll be worth. Else sooner or later people will find another better series to love and glorify. BS & SI rock and they will be fav among all the viewers even if IPKKND turn a flop show... Keeping my fingers crossed to have something nice else I am not interested in watching another person's miserable life.

Cheeers for Penning it down so precisely...👏

Thanks. I will watch this show no matter how bad it gets as long as BS and SI are on the screen. Only because of them, I so many times forget Arnav and Kushi are not real people. Very few actors have made me forget I am watching a fictious show. Very few.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shyam is also wrong because he wants to remain MARRIED to ANJALI for the money...Please don't forget that stupid dialogue of his to Khushi's dad.
Shyam has tried to kill Anjali many times, he doesn't want divorce, he wants to be a widower.
Shyam is a psycho.
And haven't we seen how violent Shyam was with Khushi also?

What happened between her and ASR is coz sub consciously she is comfortable with him..new love is like that whereas she couldn't even stand having a conversation for long around shyam. At that time also she was very aware of ASR effect on her.

What we should protest is how ASR uses this comfort level to pull and push her around even though he regrets later, he doesn't seem to learn from prev mistakes..

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Originally posted by: preetihere

Shyam is also wrong because he wants to remain MARRIED to ANJALI for the money...Please don't forget that stupid dialogue of his to Khushi's dad.
Shyam has tried to kill Anjali many times, he doesn't want divorce, he wants to be a widower.
Shyam is a psycho.
And haven't we seen how violent Shyam was with Khushi also?

What happened between her and ASR is coz sub consciously she is comfortable with him..new love is like that whereas she couldn't even stand having a conversation for long around shyam. At that time also she was very aware of ASR effect on her.

What we should protest is how ASR uses this comfort level to pull and push her around even though he regrets later, he doesn't seem to learn from prev mistakes..

You are right. Shyma is wrong for many reasons. I did not mean he was only wrong for wanting someone who doesn't want him.
What I am trying to contrast is that, why is everything ASR does ok. I am just saying the savvy businessman ASR is, doesn't know all of Shyam's evilness. All he thinks is Shyam doesn't love his sister and doesn't value his marriage. That's all ASR knows. I was only talking from that perspective.
What Shyam is and can be, we all know.
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i also feel ASR shouldnt act da way he did. i think cvs doing this 4 trp coz all the sash bahu drama and husband hating waife is wot ppl like 2 watch...IPKKND is the best show hell only show i eva eva seen on tv coz heard from my mom its not typical saash babu drama...ASR is back and going 2 stay as long the whole truth dosent come out...all i hope and pray dat khushi wont forgive him so quick...IF member wrote an os loves first step trust i so agree with dat... wot asr likes her yeah but love dont think so he has a long way 2 go before he understand true mening of love...if u dnt trust ur love or give a chance 2 explain den how can u call it LOVE???? luvd the post btw 👍🏼
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Originally posted by: misclog2003

You are right. Shyma is wrong for many reasons. I did not mean he was only wrong for wanting someone who doesn't want him.

What I am trying to contrast is that, why is everything ASR does ok. I am just saying the savvy businessman ASR is, doesn't know all of Shyam's evilness. All he thinks is Shyam doesn't love his sister and doesn't value his marriage. That's all ASR knows. I was only talking from that perspective.
What Shyam is and can be, we all know.






Yeah this ASR man-handling Khushi and regretting later routine is getting a little more disturbing now..People are going to justify domestic violence in the name of love? I hope Star Plus brings romanticizing this in check soon.
About ASR having no other choice, heh heh , he didnt have time to make brilliant plans me thinks, he knows after PayAsh wedding he cant have any reason to tag Khushi alongside!!



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Originally posted by: BellaK

i also feel ASR shouldnt act da way he did. i think cvs doing this 4 trp coz all the sash bahu drama and husband hating waife is wot ppl like 2 watch...IPKKND is the best show hell only show i eva eva seen on tv coz heard from my mom its not typical saash babu drama...ASR is back and going 2 stay as long the whole truth dosent come out...all i hope and pray dat khushi wont forgive him so quick...IF member wrote an os loves first step trust i so agree with dat... wot asr likes her yeah but love dont think so he has a long way 2 go before he understand true mening of love...if u dnt trust ur love or give a chance 2 explain den how can u call it LOVE???? luvd the post btw 👍🏼

I so totall y agree with you. Aranv likes Kushi. He didnt have trust in her to call what he feels towards her as love. Maybe now, the trust will grow slowly (and painfully for us) and now his feeling might take him on the path to realizing true love.
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I am glad you wrote this, this is exactly what I was feeling too.

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