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Posted: 8 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: naq5

tell me one thing if the rishta had come for devs brother ryan wud shivaay have said no or yes considering ryan's dad was involved in a EM affair.

If he wud have said yes to Ryan then dev is being hypo critic. because it is not the child who is illegitimate but the parents rishta which is illegitimate. i mean you have no problem marring the son of a man who had EM affair but cant marry the child born of the affair. its the father who is the issue n his genes n illegitimate khoon which wud be there in both kids



Shivay would have said a No for Riyaan to coz Riyaan was a cheater and a user.
He was goin to confront Dev thinkin of him as the guy who dumped Soumya.

He would not have said a Yes for Riyaan even in the scenario where Riyaan had not dumped Soumya coz being the protective brother that he is, he would have said no for alliance in a family where the head of the family had a child from another relationship. He is a hypocrite agreed but Child is Illegitimate ofcourse coz he is from an Illegitimate relationship.

And the main issue is...Chabbras did not tell the truth, they though it was not an important enough issue to be discussed n disclosed...wronged Chabbras that very moment.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: Luna46

Whatever Shivaye did was natural. I agree with Shivaye that most of the time relationships are a deal especially in arranged marriages. People marry each other seeing their family background, status and bank balance. If that's not a deal then what it is???? True love hardly exists in real world, everything comes down to money and status in the end no matter how much people preach about idealism. But I have one question, why Shivaye is taking life decisions of Priyanka. He can think whatever he wants but it should be Priyanka who should decide whether she wants to marry Dev or not. She has to spend her life with Dev, not Shivaye or Tej. That means Shivaye does'nt cares about Priyanka's feelings at all. I know that the excuse will be Priyanka is irrational and can't take such big decisions of her life on his own but if that's the case then why Shivaye is getting her married in the first place???



I'm glad u could get the gist of the post😃 Exactly wat I meant...relationships (well, most of them...) are a deal in real life too...though silent ones😆

True love does exist but in rare cases...mostly even in cases of love ppl like falling for someone equal in class n status😆 I m not generalizing but mostly it is like that.

About Shivay taking Priyanka's life decisions, well that's how he is...his character is that of a protective brother and son who would not ask his family members before protecting them or won't inform them even if he finds something in their life is wrong, he would silently sort the matter (Like the smuggling accusation on Om)...!

Prinku is wrong no matter what...falling for a guy who she just met hardly for5 mins and then being okay even after such a big truth he has hidden and then calling ur brother wrong, can't sympathize with the girl at all.

Shivay does care about his family the most, but is over protective about them and Prinku also doesn't have the guts to speak up for herself. I want to see if she voices her opinion and even then if Shivay disagrees, I'll say Shivay is wrong.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: Trissy

I always thought everyone's correct in their thought processes in this show but are pretty extreme in their beliefs.

They're not much open minded. I want to call them rich brats for breing that way, but that's not the case here😆😆
Somehow whatever kind of beliefs you start having from your childhood days, they get stick in your head, and as people grow up, I've noticed, they tend to get rigid about them.
In this situation Shivaay is no less. Pretty uptight.😛😆
Now coming to the point, I kinda agree and kinda disagree with the post.
I agree that actually people are taught by the society to live like that. Most of the humans are attracted more towards things or people who are somehow similar to them. Here Shivaay likes lineage, bloodline, and all that stuff because he love his life and who he and his family has become through out their years of being so established and...uh all that rich stuff😆
Similarly it happens with others too I believe! They like things and people of their level. People who are similar to them, so I guess they can connect to them as well as understand them in a way?!
Great post! Though I don't agree with every single one of the rhetorical questions you asked there😛 😆 😆 But that's just a different me😆



U noticed this post 😛😆

Yes all of them are extreme...Shivay Rudra Om all three have their obsessions...and they are inflexible...rich brats, agreed 😆

I think Shivay is pretty rigid with his beliefs but its not coz he is from a rich family or something but bcz of his experiences and the various kinda ppl he meets everyday while dealing in business and his dysfunctional family. He has become pretty hard seeing the harsh realities of life...maybe?🤔

@Bold: absolutely agree to that😆

Thank u ...u don't have to agree to everythin, glad u stated ur pov and agree to a few things 😛😳😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: NandiniRaizadaa

After reading all the posts here i would like to say one more thing

We all do this while arranging a marriage. Falling in love is different. I think if we say we would have ignored illegitimacy and gone ahead it would be hypocritical


But one should not insult another human being..

Better way would have been for Shivaye to fiesr tell his familu. The outcone would have been the same. But humiliation could have been avoided

Illegitimacy is a big issue in India and so is caste and bloodline. We may not care about these things as intellectual adults but when it comes to marriage and if we are going for an arranged marriage like Prinku we will let our parents select grooms on these vwry basis .


So we all are hypocrites and hace no right to bash him.

There was a dialogue by SSO in one episode. Karte sab hain kehte koi nahi. Its juar that SSO speaks his mind and said this to his face while we or our parents while arranging our match would not have ben as blastent .

Also he could have avoided being outright rude .

Also Priyanka 's behaviour is disgusting. She is behaving as if she was madly in love with Dev. And if she feels his birth doesn't matter shr should say so. Why is she so underconfidant???? I can understand that when there are dominating males in the family sonetimes eomen dont get a day but atleast she can express them


And the bottomline Chabra's should not have concealed


Nandini, If my own opinion is asked, I won't even fall in love without knowing anyone fully and if he is an illegitimate child...No from me...I m rigid like that and I knw might be offending too😃 but such things do matter at the end of the day if one is getting into a serious relationship be it love or arranged.

Aah bashing again...no one bashed him...I will defend him till I can 😆

Exactly, "Karte sab hain but like Shivay, ppl do not say it out loud"

I already agreed that Shivay was rude and offensive and could have dealt the matter in a more mature manner...he needs anger management lessons😆


Prinku is behaving in the most unrealistic manner...no words for this girl!!

Yes...Chabbras were frauds according to me...its just a defense wen Dev says he was goin to tell the truth after Roka...my mind gets 100 questions thinking why after Roka and why not before...why the hurry to complete the Ceremonies? Why lie wen Shivay first asked about Dev's illegitimacy, Mr. Chabbra called it a Bad Joke! Family is gadbad! 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#75
Neha love doesnt happen that way. One cant decide who to love. Even i used to think one can choose but it hits from the most unusual places i realised 😆 if it hits that is...
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Posted: 8 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: ChrisinS

aOkay I haven't read all the comments but I can say that each one has a bit that I agree with.

Firstly, Shivaay is extremely upset that Dev being an illegimitate child was found out later on when everything was fixed. Keep in mind that Shivaay does NOT know that Dev was going to explain himself or Priyank is in love with Dev. He doesn't know it. He is also paranoid right now with Gayatri's message to him. Under normal circumstances he might have bent for Priyanka but in these circumstances he probably won't.

Secondly, I know for a fact that even if caste or ethnicity aren't important. Socioeconomic status is very important. To a certain extent it is also logical to get married in a household that sustains your lifestyle and the standard of living the families maintain. The reason being, and I say this from personal observation, is that there are a lot of societal norms to fulfill. Whether you are white or Indian, there are gifts to be given during occasions and the grandeur of the gifts will be different from families to families. This causes an issue if you are married to someone earning much less because it just doesn't make sense to spend that much on gifts and stuff. Normally I see this leading to the bashing of the very sweet but financially not so well off boy or girl. It breaks my heart and I personally for that very reason wouldn't marry someone earning much less unless I'm in love with them to no extent.

As for Dev, the sweet soul should not have had his past thrown for everyone to see. Shivaay could have been more considerate. I absolutely despise him for not showing respect regardless of where people come from.




Thanks for agreeing with something in everyone's pov😃

I think Shivay was angry coz firstly Chabbras did not tell the truth and are we sure Dev was really goin to tell the truth after the Ceremony? My question would be, why not before, if u r so truthful?
Gayatri's threats is altogether a different issue.

Exactly, intercaste weddings are prevalent these days but ppl do look for a sound socio-economic background, why feel shameful about that coz everyone wants security.

@bold: That's a sad truth...I m like that too and I m sure many of us...society does influence us in some way or the other.


I agree Shivay should have been more considerate but I also feel Chabbras should have taken the initiative of disclosing such a big truth as the first and foremost priority before forming this alliance, makes me feel their intentions were never right!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: NandiniRaizadaa

Neha love doesnt happen that way. One cant decide who to love. Even i used to think one can choose but it hits from the most unusual places i realised 😆 if it hits that is...



Ermm...this is a complicated discussion...debatable...we might discuss this sometime at length 😆
Edited by Crazy4Mayur - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: -beena-

I agree with what you said about people considering all aspects regarding the bride or groom in marriages.

People do consider not only the bride or groom's education and what he/she does for a living but also about their family's financial condition, parent's and siblings.

It has been seen that in a family with more than one daughter it is impossible for the family to fix the younger daughter's marriage unless the elder is married since people doubt about why they are doing so and that their may be some problem with the family,even though in reality it may be that the elder one does not want to marry or wants to study further or achieve more in her career or any other reason.Even a son's marriage is not arranged unless the younger sister is married.

I agree that Chabbra's were wrong in not telling them about Dev beforehand.

I disagree with Shivay's blood and lineage stance of the Obero's. One can point at the other person's drawback, only if they themselves are clean about that.Oberoi's are very wealthy agreed.
But,in this case Priyanka is Tej's daughter who himself has been involved in extra martial affairs.So the Oberoi's are no dudh ka dulha either. And if Shivay's views are considered no parent will marry their son to such person's children.

If this was a real life situation,they way Shivay reacted,the Chhabra's would have given it back to him by telling about Tej's affairs.Shivaay should have been more calm in his approach.He literally removed them from the house which was wrong.

Shivay is partly right.The Chabbra's should have disclosed about Dev before asking for the roka to be fixed.



@Bold: I was wondering why no one pointed this out yet...double standards lie here...coz if the guy concerned is illegitimate and his dad has had an extra marital affair...so did the girl's father, only difference is he did not have a child from that extra-marital relationship😆

I agree Shivay could have handled the issue calmly instead of humiliating them like that but wat would one do if he comes to know that the guy with whom his sister is abou to exchange the ring is an illegitimate child and the whole family did not feel it an important enough matter to disclose or discuss.


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Posted: 8 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: KJ-Deewani

But what is Dev fault here?
Did he decided to be an illegitimate child?
So why does he have to suffer these allegations?
Why the hell is he being blamed?



His fault is that if really was that true gentleman he was portraying himself, he should have chosen to disclose such a big truth by himself as that would have served as the base of the relationship...Honesty was missing!

He had even got an opportunity to tell this to Shivay wen Shivay took him in private to talk but the guy said he had no secrets. He faltered there itself.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshi67

The constant highlighting of Shivaay's beliefs about the purity of lineage and bloodlines being sacrosanct, is no doubt being done in so blatant a manner for a specific reason. Whatever the secret that there is that will be unveiled eventually, will involve his heart directly in one way or another. And then they can show all of his prejudices come home to roost. The more lofty is the high ground you purport to walk, the harder is the fall when it comes.


All credit to Mrs Chhabria for accepting her husband's child, born of his lover, into the family and treating him as equal to her own son by all accounts. However, this fact should have been disclosed to the Oberois before a formal rishta was put forward. And it should have come from Mr Chhabria to Tej. By not doing so, he has left his family open to all the insults that were heaped upon them. Dev saying that he was going to inform Prinku after the roka was no way to go about it.

Shivaay is always speaking of breeding, but his behaviour today belied his own. The manner in which you do the right thing is as important as doing the right thing.



Agree to everythin u said...nothin more to add! :)

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