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kashika

@IO_OI

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#61

i didnt read all the comments bt i just read ur post...

if i m enough intelectual n mature to say something abt this, i would say no u r not just the only hypocrite...we all r,in some or the other way...

n regarding shivaay, to whom i really connect in all the ways i would say no,he is not wrong to break the wedding of prink..no at all! bcuz as u said we wont get our sibilings married to a person who is not in a mood to say truth,to a person whose future (financialy) isint stabled n a person who dont earn a good n certain amt of money every month--specially when it is a male( though this u may count as gender discrimination or something bt we generally dont see wht girl earns in society, we ignore cuz she is the one who leaves everything n goes to the husband's family)

secondly, like u said..somewhere in the society we r really concerned abt caste n religion, to be specific caste, bt the reason is also the difference in the thought processes of individuals,difference in their rituals,traditions..so people see the caste n marry someone near around caste so tht they(specifically girl) dosent create problems in the 'things' which have been always carried on..moreover the ancestors in india have always promoted this thing,thus the planted seed might have rotten over yrs,bt still remains are there but this caste thing to be thought by shivaay is wrong,bt not wrong by a parent

thirdly, i dont feel wrong in shivaay wanting her sister to marry someone equal or above their status..bt if i take the case of shivaay in particular to anika or anyone he shouldnt insult someone badly or humilate the person...though this thing is rather debateable bt i feel in most of the cases again,the male status is imp. the female should just have good moral values...bt in the rich societies there has always been this tabboo bcuz whatevr they do gets printed on the newspapers as headlines..so acc to them marrying someone equal to them (bt not girl,she should be equal) is a prestige n dosent let their "image down"

n i believe he is a egoist,n has a long nose bcuz of the treatment he has got being an oberoi,cuz cummon if i was a person earning in billion i would also be a spoilt girl xD(nt good to say bt honesty is bliss),n here i would still say my parents will look for someon in and around our caste(so tht no1 faces prblms),someone who earns good enough n cn keep me happy..bt tht dosent mean tht my parents will humilate or i will humilate or insult someone below or caste,bank acc..cuz we dont do tht,do we tell the housemaids or the dhobi or someone who comes n talk to us,or someone who proposes marriage to us(arranged) by letting them down by these words..we dont..so this makes shivaay wrong n he having an ideology tht this person dosent have a caste,family name so he/she is a big fool n not worth it n cant do anything..n he is meant to be wrong or bekar..this is wrong.! nothing else...

N BY this n frm all my panchayati u gt to know i support u! (though m sorry for this much writing-my teacher says i write too much though i write too gud n thus she deducts my marks :/ pls dont do tht here) BT such a wonderful post! n happy dusshera!(PS u actually did something for dussera ;-) )

Edited by kashika_29 - 8 years ago

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Nandini

@NandiniRaizadaa

Trailblazer

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Posted: 8 years ago

#62

Originally posted by: Crazy4Mayur

Yes his beliefs need to go a gradual change...but did Shivay call him a bad blood? I think he made it clear that they would have said a no if they had told the truth at the very first go.

Yes he did call his blood bad when Mrs Chabra said he is a good boy. He said some dialogue about blood

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Tris007

@Tris007

Stunner

Posted: 8 years ago

#63

I always thought everyone's correct in their thought processes in this show but are pretty extreme in their beliefs.

They're not much open minded. I want to call them rich brats for breing that way, but that's not the case here😆😆

Somehow whatever kind of beliefs you start having from your childhood days, they get stick in your head, and as people grow up, I've noticed, they tend to get rigid about them.

In this situation Shivaay is no less. Pretty uptight.😛😆

Now coming to the point, I kinda agree and kinda disagree with the post.

I agree that actually people are taught by the society to live like that. Most of the humans are attracted more towards things or people who are somehow similar to them. Here Shivaay likes lineage, bloodline, and all that stuff because he love his life and who he and his family has become through out their years of being so established and...uh all that rich stuff😆

Similarly it happens with others too I believe! They like things and people of their level. People who are similar to them, so I guess they can connect to them as well as understand them in a way?!

Great post! Though I don't agree with every single one of the rhetorical questions you asked there😛 😆 😆 But that's just a different me😆

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vivacious_gurl

@vivacious_gurl

Sparkler

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Posted: 8 years ago

#64

I absolutely agree he wasn't wrong today... N His way of dealing with it also wasn't wrong... These things matter to everyone even in today's generation... Illegitimate child... Well that's a character certificate for the father... Yes it was insulting the way he handled it... But chhabras deserved the insult... They hid such a big detail about Dev... No one in their right mind wud give their daughter's/sister's hand in arranged marriage to a child born out of wedlock... Child out of wedlock is still a taboo in our society... It's very easy to pin point n put Shivaay down for his beliefs on blood, family, lineage... But truth be told all those matter in arrange marriage... May jot be first preference ebut they r considered for sure... No one knowingly will accept a person of far lower status, no family background etc for their child in arranged marriage... What is an arranged marriage... Whom to u arrange it with... Mostly in ur circles... Coz u believe it will be easier for ur child to adjust in such circumstances... Especially daughters... As parents feels... Already she is leaving a family n going to a new one atleast her life style will be maintained... Yes she may be financially self sufficient but in case of problems her new family will be able to provide for her atleast what her own family cud... That's the thot... Also the illegitimate shows the character of the father n if all his doing was so easily acceptable to his wife it means their son too has a legal to behave the way he wants... U judge the children as per their upbringing... Tomorrow prinku too wud hv been expected to accept her hubby's illicit relationships etc...

Why ask prinku's opinion... Children so young n inexperienced have no knowledge of real world... N yes letting them. Get hurt n learnt on their own is one thing but knowingly letting them make such huge mistakes is another... No brother wud do that...

The way he handled... Well deserved it as they concealed the truth... They had come with all intentions of getting a khandaani bahu so that the illegitimate son gets acceptance in society... Calling Shivaay chhoti soch... Please liars if it was for u ppl, dev wud hv nvr revealed the truth... Until atleast Suhaag raat... Cheaters shud nvr expect to be treated with respect... Tell the truth n yet get insulted then that's very wrong...

Prinku... Omg... That child... She fell in love with a guy in two minutes... Can u ask such a child her opinion? One can nvr be at first sight... That's attraction... Love is developed only once u know a person...

As for the question is Shivaay to be blamed for his beliefs... I For one hv nvr blamed him for his belief... Yes I don't agree with his khoon n lineage thing... As I believe even an adopted child is equally the child of his/her parents n shud get equal respect n love... But khandaan yes... The family bg.. Yes... Coz upbringing matters... N i hv nvr blamed him for his beliefs... To each his own... What I don't like about him that he thinks ppl lower his status are Sadak ka kuda... Kachra... Please Shivaay there is a way to express... How can anyone be called trash...

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Posted: 8 years ago

#65

oh God I am sorry but this post enraged me a bit...I couldn't even read it completely...no,if somebody is illegitimate it is not their fault,I wouldn't define them by it...so yes I have no problem marrying somebody illegitimate...I have absolutely no problem seeing any of my closed one marry someone "illegitimate"...I am not trying to do 'badi badi baatein' but defining somebody because of their "legitimacy" or lack of it or because of their "bloodline" is really what-the-f**k to me.

Shivaay sucks with this pov...but what's new?😆

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Nandini

@NandiniRaizadaa

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Posted: 8 years ago

#66

After reading all the posts here i would like to say one more thing

We all do this while arranging a marriage. Falling in love is different. I think if we say we would have ignored illegitimacy and gone ahead it would be hypocritical

But one should not insult another human being..

Better way would have been for Shivaye to fiesr tell his familu. The outcone would have been the same. But humiliation could have been avoided

Illegitimacy is a big issue in India and so is caste and bloodline. We may not care about these things as intellectual adults but when it comes to marriage and if we are going for an arranged marriage like Prinku we will let our parents select grooms on these vwry basis .

So we all are hypocrites and hace no right to bash him.

There was a dialogue by SSO in one episode. Karte sab hain kehte koi nahi. Its juar that SSO speaks his mind and said this to his face while we or our parents while arranging our match would not have ben as blastent .

Also he could have avoided being outright rude .

Also Priyanka 's behaviour is disgusting. She is behaving as if she was madly in love with Dev. And if she feels his birth doesn't matter shr should say so. Why is she so underconfidant???? I can understand that when there are dominating males in the family sonetimes eomen dont get a day but atleast she can express them

And the bottomline Chabra's should not have concealed

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Posted: 8 years ago

#67

@Felicity1234 - exactly! lineage,bloodline and wealth hardly mean good parvarish or good character...we all see the kind of person shivaay is with all the money and 'legitimacy' he has

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Posted: 8 years ago

#68

I think people do not know other people here...so nobody has any right to say that anybody is being hypocritical and in their real life would behave just like shivaay is...personally somebody's illegitimacy really does not matter to me...sure convincing parents and others could prove to be a tough ride...I never denied that.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#69

you can't ask prinku about her opinion on her marriage but you can get her married? she is an idiotic child when it comes to asking for her opinions but is mature enough to get married?

the oberois need to realize what the real problem is...prinku need to grow a bit as a person before she even thinks of marriage...hopefully the growing part will also include the ability to speak up.

4 Lions make their younger sisters so annoying...najma could not even get a hair cut without asad's permission...aur yeh log chale hai women ko empower karne😆

people like shivaay will not give you the freedom to make your decisions unless you make them realize where they are going wrong...so prinku really needs to try and speak up.

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TheTroubleMaker

@TheTroubleMaker

Sparkler

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Posted: 8 years ago

#70

Originally posted by: JaiJaiIraniMata
oh God I am sorry but this post enraged me a bit...I couldn't even read it completely...no,if somebody is illegitimate it is not their fault,I wouldn't define them by it...so yes I have no problem marrying somebody illegitimate...I have absolutely no problem seeing any of my closed one marry someone "illegitimate"...I am not trying to do 'badi badi baatein' but defining somebody because of their "legitimacy" or lack of it or because of their "bloodline" is really what-the-f**k to me.
Shivaay sucks with this pov...but what's new?😆

Thanks for not reading completele and apologies taken...same here even I couldn't read after first 2 lines of ur reply!

Kindly stop spamming this post if u're done coz I knw wat u think about Shivay anyway and ur pov...wat's new?? 🥱

Edited by Crazy4Mayur - 8 years ago