Who is to be blamed for falling TRPs? - Page 4

Originally posted by: Soaps1

Its' a lot of reasons not just one:

1) Lack of a love story:

This show was sold to audience as a love story ... story of two incomplete people perfect together ... from day one the focus has been on anything but the love story and SaAz ... people waited and waited and then they finally gave up! In the beginning it was full of kurti, anam and likes, later with jungle track a little focus came on SaAz but that didn't last for long ... and the whole zaki track was the final nail!

2) Change of slot:

This is a bold and intense show particularly with the way Sahir's characterization is done ... 10 pm was a better slot and when the show was at 10 pm it had similar TRPs that Ekta's show has now! 8:30 pm is not the slot for intensity and out of the box things!

3) Compromising Leads for Zaki:

Yes many people liked Zaki as a arzoo's friend, there is nothing wrong with that but even the most staunch supporters saw this as SaAz story ... they wanted to see how SaAz will come together, their love story ... I don't think anyone watching had any doubt that Sahir and Arzoo are the lead couple ... they some how attempted to butcher the leads for the sake of accommodating Zaki! Be it Sahir shown to do extreme negative things (which I am sorry but were not part of who he was from beginning, he was show to be a fair person specially when it came to arzoo, he wasnt egoistic either if he was he won't give arzoo a job after that letter) sahir was always considerate of arzoo, protected her, supported her! The attempt to turn him negative for the sake of Zaki obviously did not sit well with the audience that too without any explanation for his actions! He did it for his love for her was not made obvious either and general audience does not think as much as we do ... we get to discuss they just see what they see and it ends there!

Not just Sahir, arzoo too was butchered to accommodate Zaki ... I am extremely sorry to say this but whether it sounds regressive or whatever the way arzoo was shown accepting someone else's pregnancy, in a traumatized state sleeping on bed with a male friend when her mother and sister were around, then two days after being rejected by Sahir agreeing to marry Zaki could not and would not go well with the audience! Its' something no one can relate to! Specially sleeping in bed with a male friend in a traumatized state and not with your mother! This show is based in India not in US and UK!

Not just leads nausheen was so badly butchered as a mother for zaki ... a mother who let her daughter sleep with a guy in traumatized state ... and later was convincing her to marry zaki and talking about money ... when now she came to return the file and arzoo told sahir my mother is very self respecting and hence returned the gift ... one could just roll eyes

4) Arzoo's characterization:

Its all over the place from day one! She is projected as strong and independent woman but she comes across as immature and irrational! She talks big about self respect and dignity but does not mind staying in his house with whole family, standing in his house tells him she won't leave his house even when he asks to ... is highly unprofessional but her actions justified in the name of a strong woman ie. that resignation letter!

And now her whole transformation into money minded, more rude arzoo is not justified either! Because she was not once shown to try and get a new job ... find a house ... make atleast some effort to actually be independent! Sahir offered her to take money and leave ... fine she could not take money but despite him telling her to leave she refuses to leave his house ... that is not a strong, independent and dignified woman! Yes Sahir has done wrong with her but that does not justify her own actions! If she was suppose to be a strong, independent woman her actions should have justified that! And now after having accepted his deal, his money her acting like some queen doesn't make sense either ... yes he broke her heart but she decided to move on with zaki after that didnt she? She doesn't know report is fake! So her character is inconsistent too and her actions and behaviour make little sense in the context that she offered the deal! Another inconsistency is that from day one all her rules have been for Sahir only ... with everyone else she is so casual ... take the example for Alvira ... Alvira was the one who brought her to the house with a certain intention ... arzoo knows that yet she is fine with alvira, still hugging her for comfort?

Old arzoo was like this too ... blaming others for everything ... rude, arrogant even before he broke her heart ... so what is the difference in new arzoo?

5) Screen play and script:

Always inconsistent ... jumping from one scene to another without consistency

6) Not enough insight into Sahir's past:

I feel the story would be more interesting if they gave us insights into Sahir's past more often ... like may be his childhood ... or the kind of person he was ... or more scene of him with zeenat ... or at least some hints as to what led him to be the person he is today ... there just hasn't been enough insight!

7) Nikkah the comedy of errors:

The episode was suppose to be intense but all it did was made us laugh ... that is how senseless it was

All those people who blame fans for having defended Sahir ... well have they not themselves defended every action of arzoo? Be it her throwing phone or that absurd resignation letter that anyone would get fired for and talked about it as some kind of strength of a strong woman? When all they showed were weakness and impulsiveness! Sahir's fans in fact were the first ones to raise voice and say the character is being butchered ... be it the egg scene or what all they made him do for the sake of zaki! But yes we did defend the fact that Sahir is the lead of this show ... because most people watch it for him ... whether they hate him or love him ... there is no show without him ... precisely why we did not want him compromised for the sake of anyone else! Same goes for Arzoo ... it was wrong to compromise her for sake of Zaki!

What is the fix:

Even now if they want to fix it ... they need to bring it back to SaAz ... show a justification to why Sahir did what he did ... reason for his actions ... fix arzoo fine she is angry with sahir she has every single right to be but there is slight difference between showing anger and being immature and outright disrespectful! Like the office scene she will only loose her own respect by acting that way in front of employees! And when she did a deal specially and is now a new arzoo ... shouldn't she be ok with all this because that is what she wants now?

Even if they want it to be a thriller ... if the thrill is build around Sahir and Arzoo with love story and Sahir's past story kept intact it can work ... what the show needs is consistency!

I totally agree with someone saying it is a love story and people need to feel the leads deserve each other ... else there is no love story ... I have been saying that from day one! Most of us didn't think Arzoo deserved Sahir before the nikkah thing happened and we don't even now ... there are others who feel Sahir does not deserve Arzoo ... this way or that way loss is of the love story ... people have to feel both deserve each other! This show will be nothing if its' not SaAz so the CVs have to make them work ... they can build the thrill around them and start with the love story ... something we have been waiting for from day one ... show us how they are meant to be ... and how they deserve each other! Otherwise there is just no show ... no story ... no matter how much thrill they add it won't work!

And those who say actor and character's lines are being blurred ... please tell me what is an actor's job? An actor's job is to sell his character ... actor is not the writer is he? He is given a script and whether he/she agrees with it or not he has to enact it ... right or wrong? If Harshad has played his character with such authority and emotions that people relate to his character what is bad in that? And i have said hundred times before that being able to relate to a character is not the same as stating the character is right ... relating to it means it makes sense in the context of story and characterization! Harshad owned his character ... and made it stand out ... no matter what kind of script he was given ... he made sure majority of audience felt with his character, all the emotions that it goes through (obviously there would always be some who won't but the fact that be it this forum, be it FB, be it twitter SAC is termed the foundation of show even today tells a lot and its' not just us fans ... many new viewers too!) He is the lead of the show and he made sure that no matter how the script is, his performance justifies that

Originally posted by: Soaps1

Its' a lot of reasons not just one:

1) Lack of a love story:

This show was sold to audience as a love story ... story of two incomplete people perfect together ... from day one the focus has been on anything but the love story and SaAz ... people waited and waited and then they finally gave up! In the beginning it was full of kurti, anam and likes, later with jungle track a little focus came on SaAz but that didn't last for long ... and the whole zaki track was the final nail!

2) Change of slot:

This is a bold and intense show particularly with the way Sahir's characterization is done ... 10 pm was a better slot and when the show was at 10 pm it had similar TRPs that Ekta's show has now! 8:30 pm is not the slot for intensity and out of the box things!

3) Compromising Leads for Zaki:

Yes many people liked Zaki as a arzoo's friend, there is nothing wrong with that but even the most staunch supporters saw this as SaAz story ... they wanted to see how SaAz will come together, their love story ... I don't think anyone watching had any doubt that Sahir and Arzoo are the lead couple ... they some how attempted to butcher the leads for the sake of accommodating Zaki! Be it Sahir shown to do extreme negative things (which I am sorry but were not part of who he was from beginning, he was show to be a fair person specially when it came to arzoo, he wasnt egoistic either if he was he won't give arzoo a job after that letter) sahir was always considerate of arzoo, protected her, supported her! The attempt to turn him negative for the sake of Zaki obviously did not sit well with the audience that too without any explanation for his actions! He did it for his love for her was not made obvious either and general audience does not think as much as we do ... we get to discuss they just see what they see and it ends there!

Not just Sahir, arzoo too was butchered to accommodate Zaki ... I am extremely sorry to say this but whether it sounds regressive or whatever the way arzoo was shown accepting someone else's pregnancy, in a traumatized state sleeping on bed with a male friend when her mother and sister were around, then two days after being rejected by Sahir agreeing to marry Zaki could not and would not go well with the audience! Its' something no one can relate to! Specially sleeping in bed with a male friend in a traumatized state and not with your mother! This show is based in India not in US and UK!

Not just leads nausheen was so badly butchered as a mother for zaki ... a mother who let her daughter sleep with a guy in traumatized state ... and later was convincing her to marry zaki and talking about money ... when now she came to return the file and arzoo told sahir my mother is very self respecting and hence returned the gift ... one could just roll eyes

4) Arzoo's characterization:

Its all over the place from day one! She is projected as strong and independent woman but she comes across as immature and irrational! She talks big about self respect and dignity but does not mind staying in his house with whole family, standing in his house tells him she won't leave his house even when he asks to ... is highly unprofessional but her actions justified in the name of a strong woman ie. that resignation letter!

And now her whole transformation into money minded, more rude arzoo is not justified either! Because she was not once shown to try and get a new job ... find a house ... make atleast some effort to actually be independent! Sahir offered her to take money and leave ... fine she could not take money but despite him telling her to leave she refuses to leave his house ... that is not a strong, independent and dignified woman! Yes Sahir has done wrong with her but that does not justify her own actions! If she was suppose to be a strong, independent woman her actions should have justified that! And now after having accepted his deal, his money her acting like some queen doesn't make sense either ... yes he broke her heart but she decided to move on with zaki after that didnt she? She doesn't know report is fake! So her character is inconsistent too and her actions and behaviour make little sense in the context that she offered the deal! Another inconsistency is that from day one all her rules have been for Sahir only ... with everyone else she is so casual ... take the example for Alvira ... Alvira was the one who brought her to the house with a certain intention ... arzoo knows that yet she is fine with alvira, still hugging her for comfort?

Old arzoo was like this too ... blaming others for everything ... rude, arrogant even before he broke her heart ... so what is the difference in new arzoo?

5) Screen play and script:

Always inconsistent ... jumping from one scene to another without consistency

6) Not enough insight into Sahir's past:

I feel the story would be more interesting if they gave us insights into Sahir's past more often ... like may be his childhood ... or the kind of person he was ... or more scene of him with zeenat ... or at least some hints as to what led him to be the person he is today ... there just hasn't been enough insight!

7) Nikkah the comedy of errors:

The episode was suppose to be intense but all it did was made us laugh ... that is how senseless it was

All those people who blame fans for having defended Sahir ... well have they not themselves defended every action of arzoo? Be it her throwing phone or that absurd resignation letter that anyone would get fired for and talked about it as some kind of strength of a strong woman? When all they showed were weakness and impulsiveness! Sahir's fans in fact were the first ones to raise voice and say the character is being butchered ... be it the egg scene or what all they made him do for the sake of zaki! But yes we did defend the fact that Sahir is the lead of this show ... because most people watch it for him ... whether they hate him or love him ... there is no show without him ... precisely why we did not want him compromised for the sake of anyone else! Same goes for Arzoo ... it was wrong to compromise her for sake of Zaki!

What is the fix:

Even now if they want to fix it ... they need to bring it back to SaAz ... show a justification to why Sahir did what he did ... reason for his actions ... fix arzoo fine she is angry with sahir she has every single right to be but there is slight difference between showing anger and being immature and outright disrespectful! Like the office scene she will only loose her own respect by acting that way in front of employees! And when she did a deal specially and is now a new arzoo ... shouldn't she be ok with all this because that is what she wants now?

Even if they want it to be a thriller ... if the thrill is build around Sahir and Arzoo with love story and Sahir's past story kept intact it can work ... what the show needs is consistency!

I totally agree with someone saying it is a love story and people need to feel the leads deserve each other ... else there is no love story ... I have been saying that from day one! Most of us didn't think Arzoo deserved Sahir before the nikkah thing happened and we don't even now ... there are others who feel Sahir does not deserve Arzoo ... this way or that way loss is of the love story ... people have to feel both deserve each other! This show will be nothing if its' not SaAz so the CVs have to make them work ... they can build the thrill around them and start with the love story ... something we have been waiting for from day one ... show us how they are meant to be ... and how they deserve each other! Otherwise there is just no show ... no story ... no matter how much thrill they add it won't work!

And those who say actor and character's lines are being blurred ... please tell me what is an actor's job? An actor's job is to sell his character ... actor is not the writer is he? He is given a script and whether he/she agrees with it or not he has to enact it ... right or wrong? If Harshad has played his character with such authority and emotions that people relate to his character what is bad in that? And i have said hundred times before that being able to relate to a character is not the same as stating the character is right ... relating to it means it makes sense in the context of story and characterization! Harshad owned his character ... and made it stand out ... no matter what kind of script he was given ... he made sure majority of audience felt with his character, all the emotions that it goes through (obviously there would always be some who won't but the fact that be it this forum, be it FB, be it twitter SAC is termed the foundation of show even today tells a lot and its' not just us fans ... many new viewers too!) He is the lead of the show and he made sure that no matter how the script is, his performance justifies that

Originally posted by: azaanabbas

I prefer to blame the channel and publicity. Look when Kis Desh Mein Hai Meraa Dil was on air I remember in Delhi there were so many billboards with Harshad Chopra and Additi Gupta on it and the STAR Plus logo on it saying watch Kis Desh daily 8:30pm. Then i think again this happen with dhrampatni but less but with humsafars zero. No billboards or even promos on ABP or anything just sony tv. Also SONY is a low channel and it cant have such a hit now after a major loss and fall. Itna Karo Naa Mujhe Pyaar was more promoted thats why it has 0.9 which is a lot. But Humsafars is not promoted at all so if the show isnt gonna fall what is gonna do? rise?😆rising is far

Originally posted by: redviolet

@bila_a

Your right the love story happened way to fast! They had a serious of strange interactions. Some where he was rude to her, pushing, shoving and some where she answered back. Not many serious conversation like the apology. Not even that much time spent together. I remember other 4 lions times there were at least numerous accidental occasion where the lead would either be trapped in the office, stuck somewhere on a business trip. Here there only real interaction was the jungle trip. And Arzoo became his maid? 😕 But if that was the case the Rubina is also a female maid why didn't Saahir fall for her? Lalit Mohan direction was the best thing that happened to this show apart from the seriously poorly scripted love story and very heinous male lead. But I felt after the Zeenat factor came out and scared viewers away they felt they had to marry the lead offs than show them spending quality time together and bonding I guess. This was the perfect time to put sense to this love story. But their also ruining by bringing in Zeenat right away. And like Ninas say I hope Arzoo's right placed attitude in my eyes isn't shown in a bad light as they have done quite a bit to glorify Saahir lately.

Originally posted by: pearly14

Actually HS on that slot was at 1.0