Who is to be blamed for falling TRPs?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Blame Zaki, blame channel, blame anybody, but not Sahir'r characterisation.

It is as if, IPK makers decided, this time we are going to make another serial where Shyam is the hero. Without telling the flashback story of Zeenat, what is the difference between Shyam and Sahir? How can you make audience watch the show, without giving any justification for married man falling in love with another girl? Jealous track looks cute when one realises his/her possessiveness and love through that. If one does not go through that realisation, that jealousy looks plain creepy.

We still digested. But makers were not satisfied. They wanted to go further. They introduced the track of manipulation in love and marriage.

Fine. Zaki said he loves Arzoo. Sahir could have coldly replied "Now go and figure out, whom she likes". The whole drama would have been over in a sentence. Zaki could have known, who Arzoo is in love with, even without that stupid track. That would have gelled well much more with Sahir's character (that he knows what is going on in Arzoos mind, but not interested in reciprocating). Whether Arzoo prefers to pursue her love with a cold hearted man or start afresh with a man who says he loves her could have been an interesting watch. We would have loved to watch Arzoo falling hopelessly in love with a man, despite knowing there is no reciprocation and SAC making futile attempts to remain in control.

We never minded (in fact loved) Sahir being heartless, but what was the need to change his character? What was the need for this manipulating a girl's love and plotting to fix his own brother in a marriage to a girl who is bearing somebody's child, to seal a deal?
I never minded grey, but this was plain black. After doing all this, now makers want to turn a ruthless businessman into a puppy stuck between two ladies. Now they are wondering why show does not get TRP. What else do they expect for this crappy characterisation?

My last question, do loyal fans of an actors (who flood the online forums) also contribute for the lowering of TRP? They keep praising the serial, even when the serial is going downhill, just because they are in love with the lead actor or character. One could have sensed long back, Sahir's character is taken for a ride and alerted the makers. Instead, most of the people kept praising the lead and blamed Sony or Zaki for the low TRP. It gave a false sense of security for the makers and continue their act of butchering Sahir's character further.

However big star one may be (Khans in Bollywood / KSG, BS, HC or GC in telly), they can bring people to theatres/TV only for first couple of weeks. Further success has to come from the plot. In the case of a movie, it can get hit just with first 2 weeks collection. But a daily soap needs constant TRPs even after 6 months. One can't blame HC or his popularity if the serial goes flop. It is just that, makers did not make use of his popularity.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Bollyfood...


This is my issue for sure...
Edited by -Sush- - 10 years ago
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👏 Bang on! Very well said if there are flaws in a character you shouldn't fear to voice them. These were serious flaws unlike showing up to work late or what not. Had these issues been dealt with right away the story could be fixed?I don't buy the justification that this is a love story therefor whatever he does to female lead being a married man is fair in love and war. In order for it to be a classy love story two partners have to deserving of each other first. In my POV the SAC does not deserve Arzoo in any way right now. Every point you made on his wrong doings is right. We have a villain in the place of a male lead. Him making puppy doll faces while being bullied by two wives is not enough to redeem him now.
About the TRPS, I have talked to a lot of show makers and show writers their claim is that the male lead is usually popular online while the trp audience is normally made up of middle class women very much like the female leads. They can only see a female lead endure so much. Just like in Tulsi or Parvati times women are still very much the trp pullers on Indian tv. So here SAC might have kept getting defended while with TRP audience he might have butchered to no repair.
Edited by redviolet - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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You echoed my thoughts !

I read somewhere that the makers can't figure out what's wrong with the show ? Seriously ?

The show invited it's own destruction when SAC played with Arzoo's life and feelings ( I don't but the excuses of him subconsciously being in love and he knew that nothing would happen post allergy drama )

Sahir being grey and falling in love isn't the problem here, not even his marital status. Ek made a love story of a married man and a young girl, mind you the man's wife was an ideal wife, he still fell for another girl. The show had good trp, why ? Becoz they showed it as a journey. The man tried to get her by hook and crook, the audience hated to love him, the religious background of that show didn't even allow polygamy! Why that show worked not humsafars ? Becoz EK know how to keep it balanced, knew how to make people empathize with him. She showed the entire process keeping in mind the moral values.

Just having a social background that allows polygamy doesn't make the viewers accept the nonsense that is being showed.

Ok we claim ( including myself ) that SAC loves Arzoo, ok tell me where is love ?

You risks her life making her eat the food she shouldn't, justification is you have the medicine and know nothing would happen. REALLY? Is SAC god to know nothing would happen ? You never know how our body reacts, its beyond our control.
Was that love ?

You force the girl to become your second wife (I'm aware she married him for money, but he threatened her , that's where all started) was that love ?

Now you will be living with two wives. Irrespective of his feeling, the fact remains they are indulged in a polygamous marriage. He is rightly named as the (fashion ) emperor. where is love ?

Now the Second wife who is also the female lead of the show will get jealous and possessive of her Mr Husband ? Kyu ji ? You married him knowing he has a wife na, then ? I know we have no control over our feelings, Arzoo's insecurity is bound to happen, but how can people connect with it if they don't get the actual picture of Zeenat-Sahir marriage ?

If the producer is still confused about what went wrong, darling EVERYTHING is wrong in your show. Just having the cultural background that allows polygamy doesn't justify what is being shown. And a good looking and talented actor can attract the viewers and make his character desirable, but a character isn't bigger than the story! Even the Amitab Bachchan couldn't bring the audience to watch his show, reason was simple : the concept failed.
And 4lions except HC's popularity to bring trp ? Not everyone can emphasize with the character thanks to the actor who is playing it. There are people who can differentiate with the "REEL" and the "REAL"

Even now instead of correcting their faults, they are ruining the show further. She still can't figure out how to redeem it ? Since I'm feeling generous, here are few tips :

Change the entire behind the camera team, ok if not the entire team, the direction first.

Stop playing with the leads hair and hair style. Well first of you need to decide who are the leads ! Ka-Alvira ?
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Thanks people. I was thinking, I am alone swimming against the tide. Now I am wondering, what was there in those comments, before you edited out 😉.
@Roja 🤗 😭
Edited by bollyfood - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Don't feel like doing CVs work for them and show each and every aspect what went wrong but will say a word or two !
But in simple term - difference between reality and fiction is fiction has to make sense !!!!!

Another point is a character drives daily soap. I am not saying story has no value and sure string screenplay does matter. But then there are so many shows and if you want to run it for long, what can you show that is really "new"?

So spoon feeding answer is keep the character consistent ! Story telling is indeed art so you need to have ppl who know what they are doing, especially director !
If presentation is bad, even wonderful character can look like crap. The way Sahir has been presented it's hard to connect.

Only good thing is HC !!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Rojaa-

You echoed my thoughts !

I read somewhere that the makers can't figure out what's wrong with the show ? Seriously ?

The show invited it's own destruction when SAC played with Arzoo's life and feelings ( I don't but the excuses of him subconsciously being in love and he knew that nothing would happen post allergy drama )

Sahir being grey and falling in love isn't the problem here, not even his marital status. Ek made a love story of a married man and a young girl, mind you the man's wife was an ideal wife, he still fell for another girl. The show had good trp, why ? Becoz they showed it as a journey. The man tried to get her by hook and crook, the audience hated to love him, the religious background of that show didn't even allow polygamy! Why that show worked not humsafars ? Becoz EK know how to keep it balanced, knew how to make people empathize with him. She showed the entire process keeping in mind the moral values.

Just having a social background that allows polygamy doesn't make the viewers accept the nonsense that is being showed.

Ok we claim ( including myself ) that SAC loves Arzoo, ok tell me where is love ?

You risks her life making her eat the food she shouldn't, justification is you have the medicine and know nothing would happen. REALLY? Is SAC god to know nothing would happen ? You never know how our body reacts, its beyond our control.
Was that love ?

You force the girl to become your second wife (I'm aware she married him for money, but he threatened her , that's where all started) was that love ?

Now you will be living with two wives. Irrespective of his feeling, the fact remains they are indulged in a polygamous marriage. He is rightly named as the (fashion ) emperor. where is love ?

Now the Second wife who is also the female lead of the show will get jealous and possessive of her Mr Husband ? Kyu ji ? You married him knowing he has a wife na, then ? I know we have no control over our feelings, Arzoo's insecurity is bound to happen, but how can people connect with it if they don't get the actual picture of Zeenat-Sahir marriage ?

If the producer is still confused about what went wrong, darling EVERYTHING is wrong in your show. Just having the cultural background that allows polygamy doesn't justify what is being shown. And a good looking and talented actor can attract the viewers and make his character desirable, but a character isn't bigger than the story! Even the Amitab Bachchan couldn't bring the audience to watch his show, reason was simple : the concept failed.
And 4lions except HC's popularity to bring trp ? Not everyone can emphasize with the character thanks to the actor who is playing it. There are people who can differentiate with the "REEL" and the "REAL"

Even now instead of correcting their faults, they are ruining the show further. She still can't figure out how to redeem it ? Since I'm feeling generous, here are few tips :

Change the entire behind the camera team, ok if not the entire team, the direction first.

Stop playing with the leads hair and hair style. Well first of you need to decide who are the leads ! Ka-Alvira ?


I don't quite understand why they brought Zeenat back without even trying to settle things between Arzoo and Saahir first. Yes Zeenat issue needs to be sorted out too in order for things to be perfect between Saaz. They could have at least attempted to redeem him a little bit first. So we could empathize with him a little bit before we went back to century of the harem where Emperors had the luxury of having multiple wives which were treated more like property with no feelings.


Edited by redviolet - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I completely agree with you . There are just too many things lacking on the show.
Infact I had a post sometime back
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4271962
Where I had added a few points , but the fact remains that the show still lacks
1) continuity
2) character consistency
3) pace
4) balance
And much much more . Polygamy is not acceptable in any religion without a valid reason.
And how do they expect people to watch the show in the first place if they don't show the reason ?
Do they have a concrete flashback for Zeenath at all ? I don't think so. And that is the reason they are beating about the bush. It would be nice if they don't show any more close scenes between SaAz before justifying the second wife angle . No mother in her right senses would watch the show with her children till that . They should stop giving wrong ideas.
Sorry if I offended anyone .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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When u try and turn your lead into a villan for the sake of a third character and dont mind compromising your female lead either by showing her sleep in same bed in a trauma state...u just know u have messed up things...
Sahir was turned into things he never was before made to do thing for the sake of making zaki look good but...The makers forgot story was about saaz...

Compromising both leads for te sake of a third character would never work...From day one people r watching for the love story of saaz which has not started even now

To blame fans is the most absurd thing one can say...Fact is sahir's character is the most itriguing one has been from day one...

Still those who r watching majority is watching for him only

And fans never defended his actions they only defended the fact that he is the lead and should nt be compromised for sake of zKi ... We said the same abt arzoo being compromised for zaki...

Because ultimately sahir and arzoo were te leads they had to make sense

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: vandy-

Because ultimately sahir and arzoo were te leads they had to make sense


Do they anymore ?

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