Can we give Arzoo some time?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Well think about it this way. Saahir also has been through betrayal. It's been seven years. Zeenat has probably suffered the worst fate of outcomes. She ended up in a state she is neither dead nor alive. This too when she was very young. Most people would rather prefer death as you do not have to live through the misery of being a useless being every single day. Did Saahir ever put his pain aside once to think through what Zeenat might be going through? Nope in fact even after 7 years of her suffering through the fate he still comes to the room only to have hate talks with her. He still has not put his begrudging and ego aside even seeing her in the worst possible condition. Its might be understandable since she scarred him when he was very young and naive.

Saahir also done the same exact thing to Arzoo that Zeenat once done to him. If Zeenat's condition does not matter to Saahir and doesn't not help him put his grudge aside. Than why should Arzoo put her grudge aside to help Saahir in a matter of days? It took Saahir 7 years and he still holds on to the grudge as tight as ever. Why are their special rules for Saahir that his attempt to play with someone's emotions should be excused and not Zeenat's? That he is worthy of forgiveness right away and Zeenat not even after 7 years of being in a coma? That he is allowed to hold on to grudges forever and other characters are not allowed to hold a grudge against him? That his pain is considered awful? But the coma Zeenat has been in for 7 years must have been easy for her?

Just the mere fact that this is meant to be a love story should not give him all these special exemptions. If he is allowed to begrudge someone for a similar deed for more than 7 years than Arzoo should be allowed to begrudge for some time as well. She is also human she has the same type of emotions inside her as Saahir. They can't be battled overnight! Furthermore Saahir needs to take more steps in making her trust him again other than feeling possessive, making puppy doll faces, and emotionally blackmailing her. She trusted a man in her life for the first time and he badly broke it. Saving her from goons is not enough to rebuild it. She might have called him in a state of emergency but she prob was not completely thinking things true. She dialed his number in panic. It might sure that deep down she probs wants to trust him again but pain of the heart break is too severe.

P.S. This is not about any other character and how they are interacting. This is purely my take about Saaz. It needs time to come to any type of normal equation again.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Yes..you are right..it will take time for Arzoo to recover...but CVs ko kaun samjhaye...they are forcibly introducing other angles..when all it should have been was SaAz overcoming their heartbreaks and wounds...and later on healing each other...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Well red i liked your POV about Zeenat Sahir n Aarzoo 👍🏼... As u have rightly claimed they are just poles apart as of now and nothing can change their lives overnight.

How I see these 3 Sahir Aarzoo n Zeenat is that each one of them have their own past darkness their own current reasons their own fakeness n grudges around which make them fall apart

I have no problem if Aarzoo refuses or ditches Sahir more or will not be surprised if Sahir is putting up another drama to push her into the relationship ... ...they have heights of attitudes in ignoring each other, longing for each other and indeed loving each other

My issue today was the way CVs are trying to build up this Zaki n Aarzoo track all of sudden ...Bringing up Zaki as a friend as a consoler as a supporter and now making him confess his feelings ...adding to this Aarzoo asking him for sometime not sure but doesnt just give a good feel and was a big sigh to start this week's drama ..

Not sure what d pressure on CVs - but this explicit love triangle was just not wht we were anxiously waiting to unfold...some redemption some past events some pain being shared mutually between Aarzoo n Sahir would definitely have been treat instead !
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Red,
Sahir stopped loving Zeenat- so it doesn't matter to him how bad he is treating her. When it comes to Arzoo- everything hurts...and right now, holding hands with Zaki in her sleep and while awake...both come across as betrayal...he can even start justifying his actions seeing how fast she has gone over.

I don't blame Arzoo...she does not want to lose out on the friend she has in Zaki...because she knows good friends are hard to come by...and her understanding of love and life is still immature...but she will grow..faster than Sahir has in all of seven years..

What I expect from Arzoo is...a different way of handling disappointments...just like Nausheen reminded her...that is the real Arzoo..the fighter who doesn't give up.At one point Arzoo will realise that no matter what SAhir does to her...her feelings for him are not going to change.

This is not a game of tit for tat...that is not love...

He is in need of healing...and she is the one to heal.

She might be bitter now...but soon she is going to show him how he doesn't have to deserve her love. Love doesn't demand...it simply accepts...and heals where it has to...

Arzoo does not have to react to betrayal the way Sahir did, because that is ugly as we all can see...she can show him a different way.

About Arzoo given some time...looks like she will have to use that time to make some serious decisions, going by the montage.😉







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Posted: 10 years ago
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When we say the zaki proposal timing was off i think we also mean to say the same that they should have given her time ... forget arzoo for a moment and think its' some other girl ... you think she would be ready to consider a proposal two days after a heart break and attempted rape? Zaki had to propose her sooner ot later ... but the way they showed it reflects badly on arzoo ... it was not even needed at this time .. to top it the way nausheen is so cool about it ... just goes on to show all she is interested in is not leaving the house and staying there
And no Sahir may have broken her heart, which is wrong very wrong but its not the same as Zeenat ... Zeenat and he were married for 3 years, lived together, slept together ... and he lived with that pain for 7 years to become what he is today ... 7 years of fighting it all alone ... so it is not same ... neither the extent of pain nor the feeling can be same

And no am not at all saying Arzoo is not heart broken and should not be sad of course she is ... of course she is in pain ... and that is why we said the whole proposal thing looked odd and mistimed
Edited by Soaps1 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Red ,
Lovely post ...Members who know me from RR days are aware of the fact I don't put down personal thoughts. Since you requested me to I am ...

Disclaimer : I love both Saahir and Arzoo . Liked Zaki ...today's epi put an end to it . My post is not about actors but the characters .


Zeenat : Yes, she has been in coma for seven yrs ...as viewers we have seen her mouth one dialogue ...some background info thrown at us by Alvira & Kurti . ...I am sure this sounds cruel... but is she aware she is in coma and lost seven yrs of her youth ? NO .We don't know whether she would have preferred death over being in coma ...we don't know Zeenat period .

Saahir : The guy is complicated and surely has issues which he chooses to deal by himself. We viewers don't know what Zeenat has done to Saahir ...Alvira seems to have a soft corner for her son but have we ever seen her and Saahir have a normal son / Mother conversation ? Has she sat her son down and asked him what is bothering him ? I can help , you need to talk to me ? Alvira as a mother should have discouraged Saahir chasing behind his promise made to a women he doesn't love ( All Saahir's actions and reactions to the doctor indicate there is no love lost between him and his wife ) ...but what do we see her do ? She joins hands with him to reach his goal . Saahir holding grudges against Zeenat ia allowed because he has a problem .

After the first meltdown of Saahir belting himself the director has done nothing to keep the momentum going ...for couple of weeks we see a normal Saahir then get to see self mutilation ? This makes Saahir looks crazy ...Where is the shrewd business tycoon SAC ?

Red ...Arzoo is not Zeenat nor is she Saahir ...We at least me expect more from Arzoo . We have established ( the makers think they have ) Saahir has problems but Arzoo doesn't ...the makers have shown Arzoo as a young , strong , independent girl who is level headed and smart ...if she can lie for Zaki knowing he is a flirt ...In fact Zaki admitted spending the night with Samira, and she still believes him right ? ...then she needs to step back and think why would Saahir lie ? Why is he playing this game ? Why did she not ask Zaki what bet was he talking about ? Two days in a row Zaki has vouched for his brother saying , bhai has a reason and he is not a bad guy ...today it was established that Saahir has not planned the rape ...Arzoo should have asked Zaki why did Saahir do what he did then ? Should she not tell Zaki to share the pregnancy report with Alvira and Saahir first . ...

Why is Arzoo not telling her mother about her best friend and sons deception ? Why sit and listen to Nausheen's bhashan ?

I wish the director gave Arzoo one more day to recover before this Zaki melodrama ...which made Arzoo looked bad today . Shivya's poor expression didn't help .


Zaki ...I am not sure how the makers plan to shape this character . I lost all respect for the boy today ...Why did he not go to Saahir first with the pregnancy report ? I am not wasting my time over him today

Red, the biggest flaw I see is poor direction and somewhere the team is not on the same page ...The director , script writer , editor , cameraman all are working solo and not as a team ...the makers probably have a vision but for sure the execution sucks.

Has been a long day for me excuse my errors will add few more thoughts later ...




Edited by ultimaterudra - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Even before we get to Arzoos reaction the buildup to tbe way Zaki proposed was awful to say the least...
It looked like a case of striking when the iron is hot...playing on her vulnerability...she had just said that she should not have loved and she cannot believe in it again and he says I love you and please marry me and then plays the friend card😲.

What's most important is there is no reason for Arzoo to immediately get married...nothing happened to force her...so if it's support that Zaki wants to offer ..well he was holding her hand and sticking to her even as a friend...so why almost badger her and use emotional dialogs to pressure her into taking a decision?

He said he is willing to wait a lifetime then why did he propose the next day after she underwent so much?

If he was indeed a well wisher and believes that true love means letting go as per his own dialogs to Sahir...then he should have told her about Sahirs wife...tried to set right her impression about Sahir being evil...instead he says things that make it seem like he is on Sahirs side and uses those to build inroads into her heart for himself!

Coming to Arzoo...a person who is traumatised and still wondering what went wrong with her first love would not say...give me time...and give such a mild reaction to a marriage proposal from someone she always thought of as a friend...she totally forgot that she had some questions from Zaki as well...most importantly she cannot forget that Zaki must have known Sahir is married...she remembered tbe previous night then what happened now? She is totally ok with Alvira and Zaki...both of whom must have known and one of whom actually said that she needs to apologise! There is no attempt shown to even ask the most glaringly obvious question!

And no...saying Sahir became like this because he is hung up on zeenat and couldn't let go is not enough to justify showing Arzoo considering moving on so quickly because if that is an extreme...the reasons for which we don't know..this doesn't make much sense either..

If she can totally forget he existed and consider marrying his brother whom she has no feelings for..under no compulsion...one day after ...then what does reflect about her? This is bad characterisation at it's worst!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Arzoo is not sahir or zeenat . So far going by what they have showed about arzoo as a character we expect her decision and the way she handle the issue be far mature than what we see sahir doing. Sahir is for sure doing the same what zeenat did to him.
An abused turn out to be an abuser now .

Arzoo's reaction for zaki's proposal is a surprise ...she is not shocked to know what Zaki feels for her... She has discovered the truth of the man she loved and not even two days after that what she does ? Ask some time for zaki ...

is this the same girl who spoke about trust and being humsafars to sahir and doesn't want to know the exact reason for what sahir did to her or even approach alvira , not speaking about it to her mother .

Every one needs to move on in life but this is too fast for Arzoo and zaki only a opportunist ...

Poor direction or TRP KA game but the show is going down the drain ...if not for leads I would have need out of it by now.
Edited by dakshaavi - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: TaanuDeewani

Yes..you are right..it will take time for Arzoo to recover...but CVs ko kaun samjhaye...they are forcibly introducing other angles..when all it should have been was SaAz overcoming their heartbreaks and wounds...and later on healing each other...



Yup there is very little screen space given to Saaz and they have the most matters to sort out as of now.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bujee09

Well red i liked your POV about Zeenat Sahir n Aarzoo 👍🏼... As u have rightly claimed they are just poles apart as of now and nothing can change their lives overnight.


How I see these 3 Sahir Aarzoo n Zeenat is that each one of them have their own past darkness their own current reasons their own fakeness n grudges around which make them fall apart

I have no problem if Aarzoo refuses or ditches Sahir more or will not be surprised if Sahir is putting up another drama to push her into the relationship ... ...they have heights of attitudes in ignoring each other, longing for each other and indeed loving each other

My issue today was the way CVs are trying to build up this Zaki n Aarzoo track all of sudden ...Bringing up Zaki as a friend as a consoler as a supporter and now making him confess his feelings ...adding to this Aarzoo asking him for sometime not sure but doesnt just give a good feel and was a big sigh to start this week's drama ..

Not sure what d pressure on CVs - but this explicit love triangle was just not wht we were anxiously waiting to unfold...some redemption some past events some pain being shared mutually between Aarzoo n Sahir would definitely have been treat instead !



I agree I would like to see Saahir making some attempts in to redeem himself. I know he is shown to be the emotionally weaker of the two but there is needs to be some redemption from his end as well. If it is just healing from Arzoo's end and Saahir doing all the taking I am not sure how I would feel watching the show as I see Humsafars as equal givers and takers. That was what everyone stated in the begging as a summary of the plot and it was what interested me. So if the healing is mostly going to come from one end and the mistakes from the other than not sure this is the show for me.

I understand Saahir is also equally broken as ended up breaking his own heart along with Arzoo's. I understand he might have a lot on his mind as of right now as his jealousy grow and I guess the deal (but that is somewhat self-invited for me.) I guess this goes along with the poor direction and narrative that instead of being concerned about Arzoo if she has emotionally or physically recovered he was more focused on getting her attention focused on him again hence the fake coughing drama.

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