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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ultimaterudra


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Lovely post muahhh...

L , this is a desi show ...I would like to know which show has a strong FL who has not walked extra miles to repair a relationship . We online audience living in the West have a different perspective ...trust me we will never ever get a Desi show which can be enjoyed for more than three mths .

In any relationship one gives more than the other ...I am not saying, Arzoo has to heal Saahir knowing he is a married man who lied to her ...what other options is there for this so called " LOVE STORY ? " I have laundry list of options which will not work with TRP audience We as audience have choices though 😛



Shweta sweetie 🤗 Muahhh back at ya!! 😆

@ bold above, actually there was such a show, my favorite of the four or so shows I've watched so far, Na Bole Tum ... (NBTNMKK) The female lead was a young widow and mother of 2 kids, determined to hold her head up high and make a decent life for her children. Of course she resisted moving on romantically with the male lead, much to the chagrin of some viewers! After all she was a widow and mother ( read: tainted!) being hotly pursued by a young unmarried adorable guy ,she should be eternally grateful and just grab him up with open arms! How dare she ??!! Anyways it was such a great show, delightfully portrayed for about 5 months or so. The hero was so atypical as well, just a treat to watch in action.

Actually I'm feeling kinda jaded about HS at this point. The characterizations and story line are bouncing all over the place. And apart from the manipulation of Arzoo by Alvira, Sahir, Zaki her father and perhaps now her mother (?), I'm coming to the conclusion that perhaps it's WE the viewing audience who have been manipulated all along, from the very start of this show! Maybe this was always an effort to show a polygamous relationship as the main relationship,hence the Muslim backdrop. But to make it more palatable, the first wife is rendered comatose hence shown very little. This allows for the lead couple to interact without too much objection. The lead couple are made to experience intense interactions,then fall in love, and have almost everyone in a frenzy ,clamoring for their marriage. The second marriage will of course be justified by some extreme reason and voila !...before we know it the female lead is firmly ensconced as the second wife of the house. And maybe it doesn't seem so undesirable after all, to most of us who prefer our love stories between a single man and a single woman . If this happens, then IMO we've been played ...hook,line and sinker!! Perhaps this was always the intention of the producers, their answer to portraying a new and different type of love story? Not sure if its been done before, but I don't really like it, and I cringe at the thought of a fully recovered Zeenat making a grand entrance to reclaim first dibs on her husband. Ugh!! Sigh! At least there's Downton Abbey for a few more weeks. Let's see how it all pans out. Cheers!




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Posted: 10 years ago
#32
Both the brothers are being selfish not carinh about Arzoo and her feelings? the biggest problem is that Arzoo is letting them plsy witj her life. I dont understand whst is holding aarzoo and her stupid pathetic family in Niyamat House like dude really? You want me to feel bad for Sahir no...Zak.no...AARZOO? HOW ABOUT A NO AGAIN! if marriage it is then they better make Arzoo hate both Zaki and Sahir.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: ultimaterudra


Sush ,

Acknowledging his feeling ...I am all for it but how he went about is was not right ... what is the difference between what he did and Saahir then...why blame only Saahir ? Why did Zaki not tell Arzoo about the reason for the bet? ...This whole fiasco started because of Zaki ...being a good friend should he not have been forthright ? Why not back his story about his brother having a reason for his actions ? When he knows Arzoo loves Saahir should he not as a friend tell her about Zeenat ? Then let Arzoo decide ...Why did he not go to Saahir first with the pregnancy report ? If he was waiting for the pregnancy report to acknowledge his love why not start the conversation with showing the report ?

Sush , you know I have been a Zaki lover ...but sure was not happy with his actions today .


Shwetzee...on this we are on different page...You know I am never in love with a character either...( forget about being in love with an actor)...I only like/ dislike what they do...to that extent...

On this one...I don't agree that Zaki and Sahir are to be both blamed for the game Sahir played...or the declaration he made that he was going to prove Arzoo's love was false...and that she was after money...to call it a bet with two willing participants who trivialize the issue and play it like a game...would be unfair...Zaki confessed to Sahir he was in love with Arzoo...and that he thought Arzoo loved him too...That is an honest admission...Sahir claimed it didn't matter to Arzoo, which brother she married... As a result of his scarred past/ jealousy/ insecurity, whatever...and that he was going to prove his point...it was Sahirs game...he designed it and he played it...without Zakis permission or consent...Zaki wasn't playing ...didn't know what Sahir was planning to manipulate Arzoo...so there was nothing to tell Arzoo...besides badmouthing his brother without any knowledge of his plans...Zaki believes Sahir is a good guy...he never expected Sahir to stoop down to the level to which he did to play Arzoo, like the planned egg allergy event or the calculated suicide move ...as much as we want to point a finger at Zaki...because Sahir is the hero...this wasn't Zakis fault...Sahir and only Sahir was responsible for this one...

About not disclosing Zeenats reality to Arzoo...we know how sensitive Sahir is about that from his dialogues with KA earlier...Zaki was respecting his brother wishes...and only when the situation went out of hand and Sahir proposed to Arzoo as the next step in his game...Zaki spilled the beans...

So, on this one...the responsibility is with Sahir and the redemption has to be his...


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Posted: 10 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: feminist

Both the brothers are being selfish not carinh about Arzoo and her feelings? the biggest problem is that Arzoo is letting them plsy witj her life. I dont understand whst is holding aarzoo and her stupid pathetic family in Niyamat House like dude really? You want me to feel bad for Sahir no...Zak.no...AARZOO? HOW ABOUT A NO AGAIN! if marriage it is then they better make Arzoo hate both Zaki and Sahir.



I have seen very little care for Arzoo had her feelings as a whole in Niyammat house. She lost her sense of individuality and became an object to be tossed between two brothers. According to me she should have left long time ago. Than no one could put a condition on her like Saahir that you stayed in my house without paying rent so you owe a bail out of my business grave and you owe me marriage. Than no one could manipulate her and take advantage of her in a time when she cant think straight. But then we wouldnt have a story left either? And the CVs are not very good at coming up with an effective storyline anyway.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: redviolet



Silly me to even think that how can expectations be the same for men and women? Women are always meant to be the nurturing healers?

I dont think there has to be a whole Sush. One can be stronger while the other one is weaker. Right now Arzoo just went trauma maybe I am expecting too much for Saahir to be more mature of a little while at least?

Yup once she is married and committed than it is def her responsibility. She is stuck with the problem as you said. 😆 Maybe thats why CVs took thins route.



Yes...Red...women are ALWAYS meant to be the nurturing healers...Of course women are better at it too...but better or not...the expectations are not stacked evenly...One can argue that men are always meant to be protectors...so may be it evens out...but it is not the same...

About the "hole"... Yes ...I did mean a hole...in competencies...with the same deficiencies...what I meant was if Arzoo was as bad as Sahir in reacting to rejection or disappointment or whatever Zeenat put him through...the story is dead...That doesn't mean that she has to be the one to be ready to take any crap...and keep on giving...no one can do that...man or woman,...it is a fantasy...Saahir has to give her something that she values...I do agree with Chick that it has to be give and take...in any relationship...one person can not always give and the other can not always take...but it is also true that both can be good at giving different things...it doesn't have to be the same...

About the holy matrimony...yes...there is an obligation to try to make it work...that's why I want to know about Sahirs past...because in my eyes...this obligation is mutual not for the woman alone...


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Posted: 10 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: -Sush-


Yes...Red...women are ALWAYS meant to be the nurturing healers...Of course women are better at it too...but better or not...the expectations are not stacked evenly...One can argue that men are always meant to be protectors...so may be it evens out...but it is not the same...

About the "hole"... Yes ...I did mean a hole...in competencies...with the same deficiencies...what I meant was if Arzoo was as bad as Sahir in reacting to rejection or disappointment or whatever Zeenat put him through...the story is dead...That doesn't mean that she has to be the one to be ready to take any crap...and keep on giving...no one can do that...man or woman,...it is a fantasy...Saahir has to give her something that she values...I do agree with Chick that it has to be give and take...in any relationship...one person can not always give and the other can not always take...but it is also true that both can be good at giving different things...it doesn't have to be the same...

About the holy matrimony...yes...there is an obligation to try to make it work...that's why I want to know about Sahirs past...because in my eyes...this obligation is mutual not for the woman alone...




I do get what you mean Sush, they would not be compatible if that were the case and a relationship would not be possible. They have to fit together like a puzzle piece like the makers described in the beginning. That being said I hope Saahir gives her something she values perhaps a redemption for his deeds maybe when he has the capacity of giving her one.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Sush-


Shwetzee...on this we are on different page...You know I am never in love with a character either...( forget about being in love with an actor)...I only like/ dislike what they do...to that extent...

On this one...I don't agree that Zaki and Sahir are to be both blamed for the game Sahir played...or the declaration he made that he was going to prove Arzoo's love was false...and that she was after money...to call it a bet with two willing participants who trivialize the issue and play it like a game...would be unfair...Zaki confessed to Sahir he was in love with Arzoo...and that he thought Arzoo loved him too...That is an honest admission...Sahir claimed it didn't matter to Arzoo, which brother she married... As a result of his scarred past/ jealousy/ insecurity, whatever...and that he was going to prove his point...it was Sahirs game...he designed it and he played it...without Zakis permission or consent...Zaki wasn't playing ...didn't know what Sahir was planning to manipulate Arzoo...so there was nothing to tell Arzoo...besides badmouthing his brother without any knowledge of his plans...Zaki believes Sahir is a good guy...he never expected Sahir to stoop down to the level to which he did to play Arzoo, like the planned egg allergy event or the calculated suicide move ...as much as we want to point a finger at Zaki...because Sahir is the hero...this wasn't Zakis fault...Sahir and only Sahir was responsible for this one...

About not disclosing Zeenats reality to Arzoo...we know how sensitive Sahir is about that from his dialogues with KA earlier...Zaki was respecting his brother wishes...and only when the situation went out of hand and Sahir proposed to Arzoo as the next step in his game...Zaki spilled the beans...

So, on this one...the responsibility is with Sahir and the redemption has to be his...



Sush ,

When Saahir declared he was going to prove Zaki wrong ...Zaki knew Saahir had a plan why did he not warn Arzoo, why wait ? Why keeping telling Arzoo go and ask Saahir ...why not tell her .Yes , he has to bare the burden of not informing his friend and Mother ( Alvira ) He may have not known to what extend Saahir could go ( Egg allergy fiasco was pushing it I certainly DONOT endorse that )I agree . What's the big rush ...he looked like an opportunist today rushing to Nausheen right after speaking to his family members...Why propose what was rush could he not have waited consoled his friend that's what Arzoo wanted . When did the situation go out of hand for Zaki to go spill the beans Sush ?

Here is my take ...The makers will definitely make Zaki's character grey they won't go dark like Kurti or Anam ...He will be good /bad so we two can have our differences Sush 😆

Yes , the responsibility is Saahir's ...I was not supporting Saahir's actions but then Zaki has to take some responsibility also .
Edited by ultimaterudra - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Arzoo has been through a lot. First there was Sahir's betrayal and then there was the taxi driver who tried to rape her. Both the brothers need to give the girl some space and let her cope with all of this before they ask her to trust them or marry them.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: GoldenPanda.

Arzoo has been through a lot. First there was Sahir's betrayal and then there was the taxi driver who tried to rape her. Both the brothers need to give the girl some space and let her cope with all of this before they ask her to trust them or marry them.



Agreed 200% She has gone through a lot and she is no miracle worker like the CVs are trying to portray her. She is a human with feelings. But unfortunately marriage is on the cards as per the promo.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree with you Red. 👍🏼 Aarzoo needs some time.. everything happened for her so quickly.. if we think from her POV Sahir proposed her.. then he betrayed her.. attempted rape scene..😭 she is trauma.. for a girl it would take some time to out of it... Again Sahir is not telling her clearly.. he wanted to stop her from house but he said he is releasing her from fake relation.. now as per precap also he is asking her to marry for Niyamat house, Saiyara.. deal.. etc.. why cant he simply tell her he really loves her..😒 all he did because he didn't wanted to loose her by telling her truth becuase he loves a LOT.. again marriage will happen but MU will be still there..

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