To Be, Or Not To Be!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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To be or not to be...

I know this is the most cliche of Bard's genius - but it usually says everything, that nothing else can half as much - just like saying a sorry, or a thank you ... or shukriya?! 😉

I have a hard time gathering my thoughts about today - they're just jumping all over the place like a young teen heart in love 😆... I'm a little too high on the happy quotients, and a little too anticipatory bordering on suspicious of even ions of trouble that could disrupt the setting of our fairy tale - but before you gather cue to be relieved... it's too soon for riddance from yours sincerely just yet!

So here goes... to the first day for the rest of their lives!

* The Triumvirate G-K-T *

Everyone's freaking over the last Kesar Talli scene - I find myself freaking over its uncanny similarity with the GK scene earlier in the episode. Gulaal tells Kesar - the smile touching up to the tips of her shinning eyes - that he has given her a happiness he cannot imagine. Kesar is happy? Yes. Kesar is sad? Yes. Kesar reminds himself of the lesson learned last night, and smiles back at her - he reminds himself that giving up his own shot at happiness and love is secondary to the sight of her face that second, and being responsible for its sheer glow. He accepts the trade off, and then takes it just a little far by offering to be friends. Yes. Hasn't he been seeking that friend of a decade ago for weeks now, ever since he first got back? When he says, yeh sab teen mahine mein khatam ho jayega , it breaks my heart 🥺 (Okay, maybe a little less than the very start when he's broken and sobbing - and then messily cleans up like a little too much boy to cry - but one, two, three seconds and he's imploring to be forgiven! I had two minds about his crying... of whether it was relief at finally realizing his mistake, or resignation to the only means of redemption.) Anyway, I remind myself, there are 3 damn months. Three.Freaking.Change-It-All.Months. Anyway, Gulaal getting mellow with him after what feels longer than eternity is such a rushing relief - not just for him, lol! I almost thought he could turn back Gulaal's question from once upon a night and ask her tu ab tak kahaan thi Gulaal? ☺️ *shakes off the dreamy mode* Rewind to the moment she is thanking Kesar - there is that moment of pure bonding and emotion between them - like 10 years ago - and when you're half inside of your screen cursing the customs and era and whatnot for not letting them seal the moment with a god damn hug - Gulaal extends a hand, and pats his shoulder lightly. *melts... sighs... nearly faints* ... *snaps back to the rude reminder* Without losing focus of the point I'm making - jump to Kesar Talli scene (Did I just have to be a killjoy? Unfortunately yes.) The positions change, roles reverse. Kesar is thanking Talli. Kesar is happy with what she's saying, and almost as if on a reflexive cue provoked by the smile he gives her, Talli assures him of Gulaal's love in three months. *goes hits head in the wall* So what exactly has Talli messed up by saying the words we all dream of? Well, she sure makes me wonder if those words of assurance are for him, or if she's serving herself a reminder to not fall back into the mire? Bad, either way. If it's plain assurance, she's doing what Kesar did for Gulaal back in the parallel scene. To be responsible for his moment's happiness, she is willing to accept her own shot at happy chance should be dismissed. If she's reminding herself, or warning herself - well... that's a glaring sign of what can and will happen when GK do get together. Scene does't end there. A touching moment between these friends - yes, even if you want to gag yourself or throw something really hard at Talli inside the screen - can't end in a hug, but what does Kesar do? Follow Gulaal's cue. Extends his hand, and pats her head. I'm lack better words to describe my reaction to the similarity between these two sequences - so I'll go with uneasy premonition for now. It was more than evident, what the removal of a mere wall between GK has accomplished. For the first time since Kesar's return, Talli is actually a third person/subject between GK - even in their perception. Gulaal isn't fawning over Talli like she's her first love; when she tells her to look over the dal it's not to set up a chance of solitude for Kesar Talli. Kesar is more positive than he's been in a long time, and consequently rubs off part of his mood onto Talli joking with her over the tea - because it's just impossible not to. And Talli? She's happy? Yes. She's sad? Heck yeh!

Like I said - the semblance of those two scenes is uncanny - and more than freaks me out. Can't be just me...!

* The Team G-K *

Things are back on track. The Great Wall of Make Believe excuses has finally been cast down - and GK are warming up to the decade old bond, that refuses to die. When Kesar tells her he's so used to her finding solutions for him - it reminds me of the million over times we've ranted about the same on this forum. Of how he's lost in the mire because his sole anchor has banished herself out of his life and because she has transiently transformed into being the center of his problem. Anyway - that's more or less past. Back to Kesar telling Gulaal, he's gotten used to her, her support, her saath. You can see the change of expression about Gulaal - the thickening of suspicious air, the clouding of eyes - but don't blame her. Even when Kesar offered her to be friends (or even implored, if I was brutally honest) Gulaal had a moment of hesitance - which probably translated hence inside her mind - is this too great a risk? what am I starting afresh here - this friendship, or the other bond? but I can say no to love - what can I say to being friends? is there a righteousness speech to give him for wanting to be friends? Oh heck, no! None! ... And then of course, sits on judgment, The Vasant Portrait. He's so the judge! He's there, looking over every GK moment - it creeps me out a little, but then I remind myself he's dead - phew! Gulaal's hesitance is no longer on account of doubting Kesar. I think it's been evident to her all along, that she can trust him - and we have time and again established the fact - but now, she's coming closer to acknowledging it, and in consequence of the same she is, or will soon, begin to understand the one to not trust is she herself. That like Kesar told her - there is a woman inside her somewhere, which has been stifled too long, but is still not dead and with Kesar's support can still threaten to break all suffocating covers and surface to freedom. Yet, when Kesar tells her he'll take time getting out of old habits - perhaps 3 months; perhaps longer' perhaps... (never) - she knows deep (maybe a little less deep than usual, lol) inside, that he's echoing her own un-confessed thoughts. But they are a team. She goes with him to bear the brunt of MB's wrath - which btw is so much more her blame than Kesar's anyway - and she tells him next day that she is now in a position to exert her right to make him drink milk. Kesar exerts his right back - and doesn't drink milk just to abide by her word, or make her happy. They are like friends, and they are more. They have their little moments, and they are beyond petty issues to appease the other. They've made peace - because really, they'd both been killing themselves long enough by being at loggerheads. And this is the team that Talli comes to witness, as she stands at the threshold of the kitchen. (Again, happy and sad - but no more comments on her for now. The CVs are partial enough to her screen space). Then of course, there was the moment of Gulaal catching Kesar's precious words - Gulaal ki khushi humesha meri zimedaari rahegi. Gulaal ki khushi mere liye sabse zada zaruri hai. It doesn't just melt her - it reassures her, even more than her frantic mother, that force is no longer going to be a play factor between Kesar and her - of course they can be team again, in that case! She asks him of her own accord in the morning, if he trusts her and Kesar looks every bit should you even ask? I love that little exchange. It takes me back to echoes of them being there for each other, as each other's kavachh.

There were other things about the episode. MB's repetition and reminder of thoughtless decisions and regrets. I'm going to make myself believe these words will echo in the moment it matters most and stop these two from taking the drastic step after 3 months. I still demand to see PB back - where the heck is she?! I'm mighty happy with the absence of Sudha. I hail JK's marry Dushy plans and if she may so allow me, would like to propose a rishta *cough* Talli *cough*.

And I'm still in awe of GK today. They are powerful and overwhelming when they are hurling themselves (not physically, always) at each other - but aren't they such a heart warming treat when they are just them? Two kids inside two grown ups, who's love from a decade ago has only grown - whether or not they understand or not.

Can there be a way to fast forward the next 20 whatever hours and get to tomorrow's episode already?!

Impatiently in attendance,
JZee 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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*sigh* You're also floating on the happy cloud today...in that case, I better zip my lips...😆


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Lovely post JZee, i dont know what else i can say or add other them you have said everything i saw in the episode and somewhat not got out in my post and that you have done in your simple analysis😊
As i said i find it was important to get Gulaal back to this stage - her old self before, her feeling unbounded as such, a burden off her and as you say reassurance she got from Kesar as she took sight of him saying what he did and so did his parents, her happiness is utmost important to him, and he values it, and also having back Kes-Gul on the same level - same side, the friendship, the bond that is there, and always has been... now that she is feeling free and settled in herself somewhat, she can now be herself in a way, and if she is going to see Kesar in another light and so on, get feelings or whatever it has to happen naturally
As for Talli, i am fed of talking about her already lol, you know i get what you mean about the double-edged meaning it could be, and yes she is happy and yes she is sad
I seriously think Talli, as KG progress, i dont see anything but them progressing at this stage, if anything has to change then it has to be in this period, ok back to Talli (i know i said i was fed up lol) i really do think at one point like today when she walked in, and took in the scene of KG, it looked she was the odd one out and it took Gulaal few seconds to notice her, and i say if we have scenes again like that, where Talli is there and no one notices her and KG are engrossed in whatever they are doing, Talli is actually gonna feel the odd one out, and that she shouldnt disturb them and back away
Edited by Lennie - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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You know I wasn't even worried about Talli the terrorist (she will remain one) till I saw people on the forum fretting over her.

But maaan its frikkin annoying to see her 'holier than thou' behaviour. Like get over it! If you really want things to work out for Gul-Kes then stop hovering around them especially Kesar. It seems too unnatural for her to say these sacrificial dialogues. It's like she's asking for Kesar to sympathise with her. I swear I will never warm up to this girl!

I think your topics start off good conversations so I'll say more when other opinions join in =))
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nur!!! WHAT?! You're not all gushy about today? In that case, you must show me light... or is this more like show me the dark? I'm honestly in half minds - I thought my post would say as much. I really can't help but be drawn into GK moments - which surprisingly came a little too soon for me, by my expectation (but anyway) - but there are all those little things that I heavily doubt for bursting bubbles. Gulaal's almost shed off her shell too real fast for me to not be in doubt. But I tell myself, she was dying to do it - Kesar was just freaking her out, and now that he's backed off, she's no longer spooked by his boogeyman avatar!

But you gotta tell me what's on ya mind lady! I won't fight logic - I promise - not even for sappy happy me 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01

*sigh* You're also floating on the happy cloud today...in that case, I better zip my lips...😆


I was just thinking the same Anu. Let JZee rest a while after the long post. Hey JZee, was waiting for yours. As usual awesome. I am still confused about Talli's presence and more so of her over cconfidence in Guall reciprocating Kesar's love. Anyways... let us see whats in store for us.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Can I just say I am ever in awe at how awesome you write? Honestly, never fails to amaze me. For that & the a-mayzing episode of today (or the other way round, whichever order you like), I don't have anything to complain about (I rarely, more like never, have anything to cavil over concerning Gulaal anyway). 😆 In fact, I don't have anything much to say (no, don't look so surprised :P), just that you covered everything. :)

BUT, something I want to add. I was wary of Talli in the kitchen scene & last night's precap wasn't that exciting for me either but as usual Kesuda did not disappoint, no sir! Thought he would start hoping to get Gulaal back but he's not the naive, immature Kesar anymore. 😆 He knows he did this for her, for her happiness & when he smilingly says this to Talli, touched by her selflessness (of course?), I was a very happy person!
Although, I have to say, the ominous similarity between the 2 scenes was not missed out on me either & I can't help but wonder whether Talli harbours any hope in her heart over getting Kesar back. Agar tum kisi se pyar karthe ho, tho use azaad kardho. Aur agar woh tumhari hain, tho woh zaroor waapas aayegi.
*sirens go off in the background*
I don't mean to burst your bubble, heck I'm in a BIG bubble right now, but are we supposed to read something between the lines here?!

P.S. Anu, unzip yourself already! 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

Nur!!! WHAT?! You're not all gushy about today? In that case, you must show me light... or is this more like show me the dark? I'm honestly in half minds - I thought my post would say as much. I really can't help but be drawn into GK moments - which surprisingly came a little too soon for me, by my expectation (but anyway) - but there are all those little things that I heavily doubt for bursting bubbles. Gulaal's almost shed off her shell too real fast for me to not be in doubt. But I tell myself, she was dying to do it - Kesar was just freaking her out, and now that he's backed off, she's no longer spooked by his boogeyman avatar!


But you gotta tell me what's on ya mind lady! I won't fight logic - I promise - not even for sappy happy me 😆



LOLL yaaar...what do I say...it's not that I didn't like today's epi...I thought it was an excellent epi...I really liked the KG moments too...but something about Gulaal didn't sit right with me today so that prevents me from going into full on gush mode I guess. I found her to be a little too SATISFIED and dare I say almost smug about the fact that Kesar again and again blamed himself for the mistakes and kept apologizing...the halo sure was shining bright today on our resident Goddess as she was proven "right" once again.

I get the point that she too was just DYING to get the camaraderie back, to get her old dynamic with Kesar back...her RELIEF over that...but I couldn't fully get over her, "What you did today, washed away all your past sins/mistakes" line...she didn't once feel any regrets of her own or realizing any mistakes of her own...it's always only KESAR who is wrong and now that he admitted it today, she deigned to forgive him and everyone can be all happy happy again...I don't know quite what to make of that.

And again in the kitchen scene...it's nice to see them bantering again but somewhere I'm also not quite sure what to make of it going back to this so quickly again...and I also get the sense that she is still trying to treat him like a 'nasamajh' baccha...that's vintage Gulaal...and somewhere it bothers me given what Kesar has just done and the way he's handled all this...but to Gulaal, it has all just boiled down to him APOLOGIZING...just for THAT she is willing to smile at him and be his 'friend' again.

As for the scene with Poonambha...I don't know if this is my overactive imagination but I found it interesting that the writers brought in Gulaal into that scene AFTER Kesar had reiterated to Poonamba that he still loves Gulaal...she only walked in during the bit when he spoke of how Gulaal's happiness will always be his responsibility...again that statement of Kesar's is something Gulaal is being kept away from, something Gulaal herself is pretending was never said...


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Posted: 14 years ago
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I am not surprised if Talli has some hopes (esp knowing what she is like at times), i mean from her pov i bet she was also reassuring herself with that 'line' and after 3 months if the DV ends, her and Kesar can somewhat happen, i bet thats the inkling in her head... 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Len - yes, Gulaal had to be recovered to this amicable grounds for anything else to happen or grow. Like I said to Nur - it has certainly happened a little fast for me - I would have thought Gulaal to still exert some restraint and doubt around Kesar, but she's also been freaking fighting a battle against herself too long. Maybe Kesar's support - in pulling away the forced support - has really come in the right time for her to at least momentarily lapse?

Reemz - Talli took the cake with bringing Kesar to sense. But I'm no closer warming up to her omnipresence as far as GK are concerned. And even if to spite JK, it makes me happy that Gulaal didn't go her old times way by making chance for Talli Kesar to go alone. Her resignation on that account, is something similar to Kesar's on her love front - which even when Talli tells him will come back to her, doesn't reflect like a bright new spark for him. Like Amm says, I'm so glad he doesn't disappoint by rising to that bait from Talli - just then, and in a way, that sets him apart from Talli (Who scares me all the time with her potential to bounce back into I'm in love with Kesarmode. )

Ganga and Nur - leme try to back trace my analysis and second guess. (i haven't read any of the other posts yet, or comments therein, so this is pure guesswork) but like me, you guys are not convinced about how soon Gulaal is recharged back to old Gulaal? Or is this more about the failure to continue on yesterday's bedroom scene? Because somewher - I admit - I was expecting that the confrontation from last night of Kesar feeding food for thought to Gulaal would surface back into their conversation, even if they made peace. I'm a little unsatisfied, that there was no mention of the same - or even subtle hints - the happy coexistence of GK today sort of rose-washed my vision and I didn't complain bout it - but anyway - its a gap to me. That... and I dunno... maybe some Gulaal with Gulaal introspection? On what's been cooking inside her head these last few days with regard to Kesar. Over what exactly has changed with Kesar's step back - yes we understand she's too happy to be true, but I hoped for insight on her thoughts there. And then of course, no mention of their living arrangement? She's still in his room? What about him?

Btw - the morning scene of Kesar coming to the kitchen still bed-ruffled was so... ☺️
Edited by JZephyr - 14 years ago

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