Why Sai is not a doormat!!... Part 2 on page 4 - Page 2

I agree. Being married definitely gives a different perspective of things happening in Sai and Virat’s life. As a married woman I think the way you did and it is a fact that any relationship needs the bonding of love to survive the storms that occur once in a while. SaiRat got that for each other and that is the reason why they bounce back every time they drift apart.

Immensely pleased to know you and your outlook over SaiRat issues.

Thank you.

Sai is not a doormat. But she has now got herself stuck in a rut by getting emotionally attached to V and his family. It'd be ok if there was reflection on their part towards their behavior to Sai. But they are all coming across as shallow, hypocritical people who just need a person to bash. If they are not going to evolve and sai is getting too emotionally attached its only Sai's loss at the fag end because she will only get more and more heartache and end up diluted, burnt out and lonely. And as far as V goes, intention chahe kitnee bhi acche ho, agar kaam/raasta galat hai toh uska realization aur regret hona bahut zaruri hai. If on the contrary he will justify the mistakes because intention sahi tha, he will keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Its a never ending vicious cycle.

Sai as she stands now is a person who is fighting for an unworthy man. She has ended up in love with a man who has zero self introspection. Every apology he makes gets diluted by him repeating more of the same behavior or worse behavior. His biggest strength was his ability to apologize, to let go, to forgive, to be the bigger person. And when that doesn't seem genuine then it gets difficult to root for the character.

Every character is allowed to make mistakes, bad choices. But if they learn nothing from those mistakes, show no arc, no growth then it potrays them in poor light.

At the core, V may be a good guy, a guy with the right intentions but then his methods and behavior destroy the thought/intentions.

He was supposed to be the calm, rational, not impulsive man who had maturity - thats what we got in the initial days- i dont see any of those qualities reflected in him as the show has progressed.

Its sad to see makers, sections of the audience and characters in the show itself -completely miss the bus in terms of what the issue is.

Imo the character of V can still be salvaged if there is genuine reflection, introspection and a continued dialogue/conversation between the leads which is not just a one-off lollipop scene but proper growth/arc. It'll need good direction, writing and good acting by NB.

Agreed.

Never said V is right.

I have reiterated it many times... In this post as well as other discussions that he needs to change his ways.

But this post is not about him.

It's about my perception of Sai. Yes.. he is by default in the conversation.

To address your concerns though, what I feel is this.

I feel he has the potential to be a good human being. Just like you said, the V we saw in GC was so good. I felt him coming back in MiMo.

And why did he come back? Because a lot of their inhibitions, issues were addressed.

To me, he behaves a certain ways because he is insecure about Sai. He cannot guess her accurately. It keeps dillydallying. And because he doesn't want to lose her, he reacts weirdly.

So going forward, whenever Sai reassures him of his place, the behaviour will change. Atleast thats what I can visualise. I hope I am not proved wrong.

I also feel he has learned this lesson the hard way. He has seen what his family members can do and eventually who is standing with him. So yeah, he should not in right sense of mind, doubt Sai ever. Neither loose her in his priorities.

The other problem is most of us compare it with KD. So we are aware of what it is to come, who is going to react and how. If that lens is removed, things make sense in parts.

Like this Shruti track too, it came much later in KD, here they have changed the timeline. So logically it shouldn't be compared. And therefore if you look at it in a sense that Sai-V are just about to start a proper marital relationship, their behaviour looks logical.

Anyway, glad to hear another perspective.

Did not mean to offend you or anyone.

I understand his insecurities. I also understand that he is entitled to make certain choices without foreseeing their consequences because he does not know the future. What I dont understand is his completely selfish, self righteous pov with no attempt to course correct despite seeing that hes going to crash/burn everything. His behavior was not ok even if the marriage was truly a deal and not real. Because in a deal, there are certain clauses/conditions of honesty, transparency that apply on both parties.

Would Sai have been shown trust, patience, understanding, support - if roles were reversed? 100% NOT.

I loved the mimo track because I thought we'd get a great arc and progression but Shruti track made him into a guy who cannot even be honest to himself. At no point has he been made to ask/tell himself - what can i do to fix things, what could I have done differently. If he had a button to do things over, he'd do exactly the same things and screw up the same way. Thats the issue. Its also hypocritical to watch him have expectations of blind faith, trust, being made to feel secure in their marriage/relationship when he has given none of that in return. He has not shown blind faith, trust in Sai. He jumps to misjudging her far too often and he has never made her feel secure. Today Sai is stating with confidence that V loves her even though he is mad at her and she loves him - but that seems to stem out of her guilt for the allegation of infidelity that he got because she left. He really has not made her feel secure yet. He has never acknowledged that it is legit and normal for her to feel upset about his past with pp and her constant presence/interference. Rather he has responded with irritation and anger as if its something Sai made up. Between both of them, Sai has more reason to feel insecure than him because he had a "past" with a person who is still in his life. Of course V feels insecure too but at least he knows that there is no one in Sais life except him.

And in the Shruti kaand , somehow the aspect of him being falsely accused of a "physical" relationship with Shruti became the crux/focus and everything else unfortunately got sidelined. What about the emotional investment in a stranger who ultimately confessed "love" to him. What about the neglect of the spouse's feelings. What about the blatant rule/law breaking. What about the fact that a criminal was let off too easy. None of this is addressed. Rather the most wronged person is now the most villainized on the show as being immature, impulsive and as a poor judge of character.

If this track had come later like in KD, I'd have had actually more sympathy/empathy for V. Because in KD , Emon was fairly quick to doubt Rono despite being in a very intimate relationship. But the stage that Sairat were at, Sai needed reassurance much more than V, and despite seeing Sai bare all her insecurities about Shruti to him in direct words- V's response of neglect to it is utterly disheartening.

To see it all come down to - V's intentions were right, so chalo chalta hai is incredibly sad.

Sai is the saving grace of the show, rarely does she falter... everyone's favourite, most of us tune in for her and V needs to atleast try to match up his wife in terms of strength of character. Yes, he falters too much, but then he forgets to reflect too. He knew at the beginning of all that he did that he was wrong, he knew that Shruti was a terrorist, he, at multiple times, chose Shruti over sai but still showing attitude to her as if he did something so great. I mean if he would have done things by taking DIG and family into confidence, given that they almost always support him, they are still doing, things would not have escalated so much... anyway, Shruti was a bechari right.

Fine.

All valid points.

Again not taking his side. It was my understanding of Sai.

I would disagree with you on the placement of the track here. I feel it is better here rather than later.

Why? Because this issue will be better addressed right at the start and not later when Sai is stuck permanently (aka pregnant like Emon was). She still can move out if she wants. It will be a heartbreak for sure but it will be clean in the long run. If that happens later like it did with Emon there will always be a guilt of whether she deprived their child of the fathers love.

Also, yes he has not apologized to her. He needs to. I have said this multiple times.

And if i am reading correctly. He will. Like he usually does. What remains to be seen is will he repeat it?

Also, he hasn't realised yet the impact it had on Sai. She will have to tell him. And it's a trope that filmmakers call 'Manic Pixie Dream Girl'. For V, Sai is that woman. Who helps him in his growth. But for that growth to happen, he needs to be receptive which he is not at the moment. Sai will do that to him.

I am hoping it will come in future. It has to. I hope i won't need to eat my words.

For Shruti, i have no words... It's their story and they have justified it somehow in terms of law. Better stop thinking about it as it has ended for the time being.

Beautiful, well written, well balanced point of view.

Virat's case has been maligned by many on the forum. I wont name them, but unfortunately they fail to see the places wherein he has supported Sai, even going against his family.

Coming to the Zillat faced by Sai, it didnt matter because she was not bothered by it. In a way emotional attachement hi nahi tha. So haathi chale bazaar, kutte bhonke baar baar.

I wrote one scene wherein Sai confesses to Ashwini that she prefers this deal marriage to a real one because it gives her security. One dialogue that I wrote was " Agar main sachmuch Virat Sir ki biwi hoti to mujhe inn baaton ka bahut bura lagta. Main toot jaati..." Very true. She would have become a doormat with that emotional committment to the marriage.

TBH, V is severely hurt because of this. The term deal was used whenever convenient. Rest all times she has behaved as his wife. They prayed together, did all rituals together, registered together as husband and wife for the mahabaleshwar trip, he was asked to sign consent form as a husband...tabhi deal nahi tha. The way he was treated after her second accident. Wo bhi deal hi tha kya?

Today he feels that she is trying to come back to him, fine...but somewhere in future she will use that term again and leave him alone. Hence the aloofness.

People on the forum feel that V needs to apologize. I feel both need to do that. A heart to heart talk...away from ZA.

Pakhi ka mental breakdown is inevitable. I dont know whether KD had something similar.

True...

But yet again, the original post was about Sai.

And I cannot explain myself more than what i already replied to Neerja about what I feel about V.

The conversation is taking a direction aimed at V. Which was not my intention.

So yeah... That's all I can say for now.

Sai's character is very common in our society... As of now that's how I see it... She is independent but NOT fierce... If she was fierce then she would have dared to walked out off Virat's life after her first accident.. She is definitely not doormat either ..she has her own ways of dealing things..

The thing I agree with you is she lacks a female figure who could guide her to right direction... But unfortunately she is fighting all the battles on her own be it with her inner self or the outer world..

Being raised by a single parent Sai has not seen the dynamics of man and wife...She hasn't learnt to be diplomatic in a joint family...

Same way a lack of guidance she is NOT able to see what Virat is capable of do.. She is only walking on the little ray of hope that Virat didn't have any affairs despite living under a same roof with another woman.. His intentions were only to help an woman who was in an extreme vulnerable state.. If she consummates her marriage with Virat will have another level of expectations.. He is way too selfish.. He needs some one who could cater his whims and fancies.. Sai certainly is not the girl for him

Virat's character isn't maligned but beyond pathetic.. He did put afford even after his mother separated their room.. He was ready to live with her just being her friend...

The minute he got shruti he forgot everything he has promised from his end.. Shruti used to satisfy his ego and agreed to his principles hence he got the kick from her.. But he was not attracted to Shruti anyway because of societal boundaries...Otherwise he would have left the place immediately once shruti confessed her lot non platonic love...He literally was asking Shruti to lie Sada.. It came out as if he would have continued to live with her like this and enjoy her attention..

Sai doesn't bother about CN taunts or abuses that doesn't mean she is hurt any less.. She just doesn't let them get into her head.. Her focus in only on Virat.. How we can normalise a girl is threatened to be thrown into the fire and the wished her death just because she can deal with them or she doesn't bother..Just because she is capable of giving them back doesn't mean she isn't wounded..She is putting up with them for whom and for what?? For Virat ?? Is it worth doing all these?? only time will tell..

Virat is not a bad guy.. He can become a better person only he has to learn it heard way..Maybe sai can bring the best version of him but until he is centre of her attention.. Virat was raised in a patriarchal environment hence that reflects in her upbringing.. He has seen how his mother used to compromise with Ninad and took all his insult probably he expects Sai to be like that to some extent..

Thank you so much for understanding.

The second accident point was what you had mentioned to me and then Sadhika had a different approach to V's pain.

That got me thinking ...

So yes.. thanks to both of you for helping me see the other side too.

I feel both have been victims of circumstances and they did what they did fit at that point of time. It may seem wrong in retrospect but thats how life works. Nobody can guess how the situation might turn out.

Also because it's a show and remake of KD... Everything that happens is seen through that lens. Which I think should not be done.

However, It is also true that it needs reflection on our own actions and i feel V is getting there (since the discussion is primarily about V and his failure to see his faults). Sai has already retrospected. V will get there and from what i read of Sai she will make sure he gets there.

On the other hand, i have a feeling that maybe Pakhi ka fake pregnancy will really jolt him and he will do that on his own... For once he will realise who stood by him and who didn't. Just like i felt his expression conveyed yesterday when Sai held his hand and walked with him to the dias. But probably i read too much.

Anyway,

Pakhi didi the true SaiRat shipper might come to the rescue 🤪