Ghum and patriarchy - Page 3

The story has a lot of potential!!! But the team really messing up the execution and writing!!!

And to be honest actors interviews also messing up viewing experience of such concepts in the story!!!

Makers are really not getting what leena ji wanted to say in her story.. KD is pretty much like old school type.. Now audience are more intelligent and a lot of changes happened over the years..

Ghum story has many layers which makers could not use due to their lack of understanding ..Unfortunately they have elevated cringe parts that leaves bitter taste.. Now the story seems sasta bhojpuri film.. Wonder why either it's actors incapability or the makers lacks credibility ..

Ghum is a fiction.. Makers tend to forget that they have to write something along the line and balance..

Virat is already involved in emotional affairs with shruti.. He has given way more information about his personal life than he should.. He didn't draw a boundary between him and shruti..

Makers ended shruti track for god knows what reason or wondering if they will continue to show once Neil returns..In any case it's not acceptable by the audience which is shown in trps..

Originally posted by: FoodieNaina

The story has a lot of potential!!! But the team really messing up the execution and writing!!!

And to be honest actors interviews also messing up viewing experience of such concepts in the story!!!

True, the team does not really understand the story..the copyright should not have been given to this PH and the actors who perform pathetically (except some) that what is intended is just opposite to what is felt by the audience.

Originally posted by: Shaome

Makers are really not getting what leena ji wanted to say in her story.. KD is pretty much like old school type.. Now audience are more intelligent and a lot of changes happened over the years..

Ghum story has many layers which makers could not use due to their lack of understanding ..Unfor they have elevated cringe parts that leaves bitter taste.. Now the story seems sasta bhojpuri film.. Wonder why either it's actors incapability or the makers lacks credibility ..

Ghum is a fiction.. Makers tend to forget that they have write something along with the line and balance..

Virat is already involved in emotional affairs with shruti.. He has given way more information about his personal life than he should.. He didn't draw a boundary between him and shruti..

Makers ended shruti track for god knows what reason or wondering if they will continue to show once returns..In any case it's not acceptable by the audience which is shown in trps..

Audience are intelligent but not much has changed in 5 years tbh...the change is always slow, it will take time...

True, whatever you have written about makers incompetency is true but these things are mostly seen in such depth by online audience, TRP aunties don't use that much of her brain for a show..i have see some insta comments on a pic of Sai on her knees, caption was this is how you end after marrying a person like Virat, comments were that Virat ended up in a life threatening situation because of her, how can you say that etc. So i guess makers are somewhat able to whitewash Virat because no one would go and see that in which episode what was spoken by whom.

Originally posted by: Dvanshi123

While she did so much for everyone ...

From Reuniting Devi & Pulkit at the cost of her relationship,Bringing Sammy back home,Reuniting Virat's parents but he couldn't even respect Usha Maushi .

Her dad gave up his life for him while his family treats her like shit !!

Ikr! Him disrespecting Usha was the point I started hating him for real showed what kind of person he's shows he also treats her as a maid only, lower class otherwise he'd have respected her considering her age.

Originally posted by: Dvanshi123

While she did so much for everyone ...

From Reuniting Devi & Pulkit at the cost of her relationship,Bringing Sammy back home,Reuniting Virat's parents but he couldn't even respect Usha Maushi .

Her dad gave up his life for him while his family treats her like shit !!

She is 'Sai'... If she was Patralekha, she will be praised for her handwriting, beauty, chai as well because she is Kaku's choice, shahanukuli maratha girl, might have got alot of Dowry as well, they showed her parents gifting Sam-Pakhi a honeymoon package as well. She can lust over her Devar because she has a strong support of her maternal home, while the same does not hold true for Karishma and Sai...

Main problem with Sai is Virat never takes firm stand for her, keeps his family, vahini ahead, so why would the family want him to side with his wife and keep her ahead.

Originally posted by: mysticriver

Ikr! Him disrespecting Usha was the point I started hating him for real showed what kind of person he's shows he also treats her as a maid only, lower class otherwise he'd have respected her considering her age.

Actually, it's also nothing rare...usha might be mother like for Sai but for anyone else she would be a maid only, especially if they lack empathy and Chavans do lack basic sense and empathy.

In this patriarchy, husbands are seen commenting often on their wife's upbringing and parents, so it's nothing rare or exaggerated that her aaba is pointed out by sonali or others...it sounds bad but it's a fact.

Originally posted by: nikita05

Audience are intelligent but not much has changed in 5 years tbh...the change is always slow, it will take time...

True, whatever you have written about makers incompetency is true but these things are mostly seen in such depth by online audience, TRP aunties don't use that much of her brain for a show..i have see some insta comments on a pic of Sai on her knees, caption was this is how you end after marrying a person like Virat, comments were that Virat ended up in a life threatening situation because of her, how can you say that etc. So i guess makers are somewhat able to whitewash Virat because no one would go and see that in which episode what was spoken by whom.

Not really...change might be slow but still it's there. Otherwise audience would not accept anupama... The story portrays about acceptance of a woman who is in her middle age.. The makers understood the original story and characters elevated a lot things.. Also you have to see overall viewership is low almost for all channels which means they are not accepting whatever is being served..

Ghum makers also have elevated the story in the beginning.. Gc wasn't the same as in original.. Ghum looked more realistic than the original kd..Trps started to shoot up since then..

You see aunties are liking because virat is clear in his head with whom he wants to spend his life.. He has indeed given up his life for Sai..

Shruti track was huge flop in both version.. I didn't understand why rono had hidden it from emon because shruti wasn't a criminal there.. Over here she is an active criminal.. That makes virat worse..

Whatever is happening to both SaiRat is because of wrong decision making.. If it wasn't him then Sai would have been in their instead of virat.. Even if Sai trusted him the scenario could have been worse..Sada would not have waited for virat but would have killed her on spot.. I think his whole purpose was to punish Virat by taking away Sai ..

Originally posted by: nikita05

True, for coming together after every abuse cycle, one of them have to land up in hospital and that's too much.

Idk, that Rono shruti angle seems like Rono knowing that he is wrong, still wanting to maintain that mahaan image in front of Emon and others (pardon me, i haven't watched KD, i am saying based on Ghum). Here i got the vibes of Virat actually wanting to be with Shruti and not because of majboori.. people do have some f**ed up logics to prove themselves right and many do have double life, a separate family, whose existence is not known by anybody else... when or if ever it comes out in open, their primary family either leaves or adjust with the other, the arrangement made to suit everyone.

Family does gang up to bully, they have failed to bring in light moments but the fact that Sai is an orphan, easier to be bullied is explored better by showing some instances where Pulkit stands for her...that is actually not appreciated by Virat and family.

It's cus of the execution, omitting many important dialogues from KD, mindless copy pasting with bad modification, cringey creativity ended up in a messed up track as well as his character. They copy pasted all the dialogues from KD which would make audience hate & doubt Virat but left out many important dialogues, monologues which gives a clear picture on Ronno's thought process. Idk if the writers have a personal issues with Virat's character or not. Who writes their ML like that plus his character sketch vibes are different from Ronno but they give him dialogues & actions of Ronno's so in all it's culmination of a terrible mishmash. They should hire a good bengali translator cus I feel they don't get most of the scenes from KD what it tried to mean & show. And obviously Neil's acting has done the biggest damage to his character in this track that makes him character look ambiguous inspite of his tall claims and dialogues of loving Sai so much and not having anything to do with Shruti. It just doesn't reflect in his acting on-screen especially in this track. He brought a colossal disaster to his own character whether makers gave him brief or he himself brought those so-called nuances improvisations which led to his misplaced misleading over exaggerated ambiguous vibes expressions, acting & body language that made people doubt his character intentions. Both him & makers don't know subtlety. They went overboard with Virat and Shruti cringe in hospital scenes just like Virakhi.

Also, Virat who was so head over heels in love with Sai, couldn't think of anything besides Sai on his mind 24/7, was lost in her, so desperate to be accepted by her, wanted her to love him back, have conjugal & marital bliss, daughter with him etc. right before love confession bringing in with Shruti track was stupid af. They shouldn't have touched Shruti track here at all cus Virat was shown much more in love with Sai than Ronno was with Imon even before love confession so Shruti track in KD at that point wasn't too unrealistic cus men do get bored of their wives, it'd not have been to unbelievable if Ronno was shown or believed to be staying or getting over her or fell out of love of Imon but in Ghum the thing is different. The mishmash of KD & Ghum sucks that's why those new SaiRat stand alone scenes in whole doesn't bring in any changes to the storyline when they go KD way & show more cringey content by showing creativity in ramping up KD content between ML and other ladies...

I mean the makers are so thick skinned they even kept same name as the OG one from KD in this track. Pathetic!

Originally posted by: Shaome

Not really...change might be slow but still it's there. Otherwise audience would not accept anupama... The story portrays about acceptance of a woman who is in her middle age.. The makers understood the original story and characters elevated a lot things.. Also you have to see overall viewership is low almost for all channels which means they are not accepting whatever is being served..

Ghum makers also have elevated the story in the beginning.. Gc wasn't the same as in original.. Ghum looked more realistic than the original kd..Trps started to shoot up since then..

You see aunties are liking because virat is clear in his head with whom he wants to spend his life.. He has indeed given up his life for Sai..

Shruti track was huge flop in both version.. I didn't understand why rono had hidden it from emon because shruti wasn't a criminal there.. Over here she is an active criminal.. That makes virat worse..

Whatever is happening to both SaiRat is because of wrong decision making.. If it wasn't him then Sai would have been in their instead of virat.. Even if Sai trusted him the scenario could have been worse..Sada would not have waited for virat but would have killed her on spot.. I think his whole purpose was to punish Virat by taking away Sai ..

Hmm, anupama is a good change but it's more of a fantasy in heads of aunties, i have read some reviews where aunties want someone like Anuj in their lives because they are bored by their husbands, even if they have a peaceful life...it's actually laughable, however, liking an accepting a story and accepting similar thing in real life are different things...for example, even today, none of the kids would accept their parents going separate and a third person taking place of their parents, simply because they cannot see or hear that reality.

Hmm, Virat actually is not clear and that's his USP...the confused man...it looked like he would move on with Shruti if sada didn't enter, at one point of time.

Again as I wrote in some previous comment, Virat/ Rono knew he was wrong but wanted to remain mahaan in front of Sai/ emon, due to which he hid Shruti's truth, here he seemed actually interested in Shruti too at some point, there was an understanding between them which is sometimes lacking even between SaiRat. And people do live a dual life and then sometimes they come forth in open, either adjustment or separation is the option then with primary family.