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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: archanan14

My take on this is that - I believe he loves her because he sees a spark of something good in her that attracts him, because he is generally a decent and good man himself. He loves Sai despite himself and for all her good parts as well as her flaws.

I am actually really not able to associate much with Virat at the moment. I know he is very sure about his feelings, but somewhere he is unable to deal with the "rejection" from Sai, despite the fact that he himself has not articulated to her in words what he feels.


What I do not and cannot accept or appreciate is the long rope he is giving Patralekha, and degrading his wife in front of a woman who is already his wife's abuser, has caused problems in their lives, has almost indirectly been the reason why his wife might have died, has proposed an EMA / divorce to him - why is he polite to her, why is he not making faces when she talks to him or keep a distance with her? These are the confused signals he is giving to both her and Sai, and these are the reasons Sai is not allowing herself to melt and take that final step to accept that she is in love with him too. If they wanted to show SaiRat sort of torn between wanting to separate but also wanting to be together - that kind of pull and push, finally leading to a confession of love - that would be amazing to watch and NeilSha would totally do it justice as well. But if they are going to be provoked into rude and unnecessary jalebis due to a third person, especially KBA, it is going to be torture to watch. This is where the execution / direction / dialogues are failing big time.


PS - thanks for the tag! 🤗

@bold - exactly. When we say chemistry filled scenes, this is what i want. There's a lot of pain they are causing each other when they don't want to do so. That particular angst is not coming through.

Does Virat love Sai? Yes, he does. I wouldn't say it is just attraction. There are times when he is fascinated with her personality, her honesty as he has said himself. But when this honesty is directed at him he is not able to take it.

But honestly, I can accept all of the above. They are two different personalities and it will take time for them to understand each other, am willing to go through that journey.

I cannot accept him siding with Pakhi when she taunts Sai. His anger needs a limit, just like her brash talk needs a limit. He needs to keep away from Pakhi. This always makes me think, where is that protectiveness towards Sai that he has towards Pakhi??

Just to poke at Sai, he sides with Pakhi,, isn't he using his so called past closeness to rile Sai even more??

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I believe he loves her..love is unique to every person.. each person feels it differently and expresses it differently...

He enjoys her company...he always wanted to spend time with her.. He was enamored by her selflessness, courage and childish wisdom.He wanted to make her feel special on various occasions.. he cared for her when sick.. He even felt there is no life without her..This is his love.

With Pakhi it was merely an attraction.. he was desperate to fall in love.. he thought she would make a great life partner.. it was nothing more than an infatuation. With Sai, it's different, they both have spent considerable time with each other, it's organic and he is attracted to her both physically and emotionally..

Coming to his behavior... it's his nature that he is flawed and keeps making mistakes...His upbringing is a reason too.. He must change and he will change once he finds Sai loves him too.. but that change will definitely take time.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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It's a bit complicated, I guess. Part of the reason why we feel like Virat doesn't completely loves Sai might be because of the fact that his realisation was never really shown in the serial. It just came out of nowhere. Plus, also because of so many times he went all extremes, even when he had realized that he loved her.

But if we take into account the thing we have been shown and just somehow try to make some sense about it then I think that Virat's love is a bit of in between.

See, love is a bit overrated. Because of all the tv serials and rom coms which we have seen, we have developed a wrong notation regarding how love happens. It isn't something which just happens, in one moment, or one day, or even one week. It happens really slowly, with time. The couple who say that they are in love and are going to marry each other also don't completely love each other. Even the couples who have been married for a long time might not completely love each other. But does that mean that there is no love between them? No, not really.

Love has many phases and each phase is entered through time and experiences. Experience of living together, of fighting with other, of seeing just how ugly the other person can be, but still understanding each other, still knowing that deep down they are a good person. If we talk about stages of love, I won't really need to explain it wrt SaiRat.

1) attraction/ romance: where all the sweet stuffs happen. This usually happens in the beginning of a realationship. The main point- here, people focus more on the similarities and less on the flaws. They avoid fights and try to ignore the things in which they don't see eye to eye with.

2) Reality: This is the oof stage. Here, we begin to see that maybe the two people aren't actually meant to be. They start to see the flaws, and begin to realise that the other might not really be perfect. It doesn't mean that the person is not in love anymore, just that these are the thoughts that goes through their minds. Maybe they are not truly compatible, maybe it was just an infatuation, maybe they should just break up. Plus, add to it the fact that romance just starts to lessen up.

3) Disappointment: The after effect of stage two. People start to analyze their relationship. They fight really frequently and over everything and nothing. And here enters the main misconception of a perfect couple, i.e., those who are meant to be don't have much fights, or, having too much fight might actually be a sign of a doomed relationship. Here, majority of couples fail. They are unable to communicate, to understand and to open up to each other.

4) Stability: For those who manage to go through the last two torturous stages. The couple now know what it means to be with each other. They now know how flawed their significant other is, and they still choose to be with them. They realise that the person they love might be broken and damaged but deep down they reciprocate the love just as passionately. But that doesn't mean that this stage is all hum hogaye kaamiyab. The couple still have some problems, they still have some disappointment. They still miss the glamour of the new and young love. They still miss the romance. But more or less the storm has ended.

5) Commitment: This stage is hard to reach, even if you have been married for decades. This is the marital bliss. No, not like no fights and all, but a bliss because their are still fights, there are still counter arguments, but now these two wouldn't have it any other way. They love each other and have loved each other through everything, and will continue to do so. Even after knowing everything they would still choose each other over and over again. They don't feel any disappointment anymore, no lack of anything, just love.

So, now you know, love is not that simple, not that beautiful, but it is real, and just a tad bit difficult. These stages don't have any specific boundaries, or any specific order tbh, but it is there and these can be found in every relationship. If we talk about SaiRat, they are in a mixture of all these stages (which is tbh not that uncommon). Their relationship has developed in one particular way but is yet to even start in the other way. But that doesn't mean that there is no love. There is, just not the one we always expected and dreamt about.

Plus, I really should learn how to write smaller replies.

PS: This is mainly to say that sometimes it is easier to believe that there is no love instead of accepting that love too can have an ugly side. But as for how Virat shows his love ... then everyone has their own way of showing it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I disagree about the unconditional part, no one but your parents love you unconditionally..I think siblings can...but for a life partner to love you unconditionally is difficult....Virat anyway fell in love with Sai after he saw her selfless, giving nature, for what she did for his family, thats the reason he gave to Patralekha as well.. So ofcourse it was always conditional...and why should it not be...

I have different take on this. He realised his love for sai even before devkit fiasco. He expected her to behave as his wife during amay track. In those times sai doesn't did anything big for his family except taking stand for shivani which eventually lead to their fight. He still thinks sai is immature & nasamaj but loves her. He still feels pakhi is mature, so polite to all family members,does so much for family that's why they loves her still he doesn't love her. He fell out of attraction/ love from pakhi for two reasons one is his growing attraction towards sai,another one is pakhi's manipulative & selfish nature. Sai doing so much for family gave him strength to voice out his feelings for her as he thought it is worth to break vaada for a girl like sai.In cafe scene & in his monologue infront of sai aaba photo he said he doesn't realise when his zimmedari towards sai turned into pyaar.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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I have added the feelings that I see in Virat, but being in love myself I cant call it love yet.. He comes from a very conservative family, in any case he did not meet Pakhi, he would have had an arrange marriage and would have grown to be "in love" with the woman he was married to.. For sure he would not have been a Ninad Chavan, but surely would have his elements, like he has every now and then.The love that in general husband has for his wife and not the love we are talking about..Also in the case he married Sai , in absence of Pakhi's presence in his life, in the same circumstances , even then he would have started with his marital life when Sai was ready, since there was no question of deal.. So the Virat right now , I see him as the same man, who got fond of the woman, attracted to her , was anyway protective from the very beginning and also grew possessive the way a husband would be..

Why I feel he is still not in "love" with Sai is for the fact that he fails to see her as an equal, as someone who he can communicate with, someone who needs his transparency. Just as he wants from her.. Also he has had failed to understand her and her insecurities for him in general. Sai has been in that regard very perceptive, since the beginning of the marriage , even though it was not real in her head, every time she saw him feeling jealous of a man...She has given proper and adequate answers to it, whenever he would ask. Even though she would club it with "why it matters to you" , she would address his concerns with clarity. Virat has somehow failed there..

Also he has fought for her respect in the family yes, but more than fighting for it, he has let his family disrespect her and also participated in doing so...He has always let his best friend abuse, harass his wife, infront of her , behind her...and he still choses to be civil with her..Any man in love would not let that happen at any cost.. However how ugly fight I have had with mine, he would not let anyone, not even family members insult me...a vile ex is out of question... Virat in general lets it happen, even when he is good terms with Sai.. I do not attribute it to him being in love... No woman gets to talk nonsense with your love, your wife, treat her the way she is treated.. by Pakhi..FOr instance how dare she taunt Sai, she is Virat's wife and she can talk on behalf of him and he on behalf of her, even when they are at loggerheads...Angry or not I dont relate with it...

Also These statements that Sai makes, he lets it go just like that ...For instance the other day she said, she would never be accepted as a bahu, he says, she needs to adjust and today when she said, that if he gets late, no one is going to say anything to her, but for her, it will be more like a crime... The CVs let these questions go and so does Virat.....

I see the most important elements of love lacking in Virat...Trust, understanding and respect.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

I have different take on this. He realised his love for sai even before devkit fiasco. He expected her to behave as his wife during amay track. In those times sai doesn't did anything big for his family except taking stand for shivani which eventually lead to their fight. He still thinks sai is immature & nasamaj but loves her. He still feels pakhi is mature, so polite to all family members,does so much for family that's why they loves her still he doesn't love her. He fell out of attraction/ love from pakhi for two reasons one is his growing attraction towards sai,another one is pakhi's manipulative & selfish nature. Sai doing so much for family gave him strength to voice out his feelings for her as he thought it is worth to break vaada for a girl like sai.In cafe scene & in his monologue infront of sai aaba photo he said he doesn't realise when his zimmedari towards sai turned into pyaar.

@bold1 He was possessive for her as a husband and love or not, husband would be always possessive...If a man comes claiming Ashwini to be his lost love, you will see even Ninad getting possessive.. What happened during Amey's track it was mostly to do with his possessiveness as a husband..Good or bad all husbands are possessive when a new man is in picture..There is no standing of "love" there.


@bold2 In his head that's the definition of love, from my point of view, he has still not reached there..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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In my opinion he loves her. But no one person is similar and neither is their perspective or ways of functioning. The problem actually lies in the setup that this love blossomed. If it had been a regular love story without any of the baggage, things would have been different. His actions here are directly/indirectly linked to the confusion, insecurity and uncertainty looming over their relationship. His immaturity and irrational behaviour stems out from his fears. If they were secure and sure in their relationship with an open and clear communication, things would have been different. So for me, he is in love, but on a very shaky stage where he doesn’t really know how to handle it and is reacting purely out of impulse.

His realisation of his love was gradual (lets not go by how they revealed it on the show), and such love is deep rooted. He has observed her, analysed her before he actually realised his feelings for her. He has liked her for her selflessness and her love and care for his family. But the problem is that as humans we have tendency to tweak even the most perfect things to our liking. We may say that you if you really love a person, you love them for what they are. And here he does, but he also wants to make that slight changes in her treatment of things which are complete contrast to his behaviour. Like her impulsiveness, or rudeness. So he likes her for all that she is, but there will still be certain aspects he may not agree with.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Amor_fati

I believe he loves her..love is unique to every person.. each person feels it differently and expresses it differently...

He enjoys her company...he always wanted to spend time with her.. He was enamored by her selflessness, courage and childish wisdom.He wanted to make her feel special on various occasions.. he cared for her when sick.. He even felt there is no life without her..This is his love.

With Pakhi it was merely an attraction.. he was desperate to fall in love.. he thought she would make a great life partner.. it was nothing more than an infatuation. With Sai, it's different, they both have spent considerable time with each other, it's organic and he is attracted to her both physically and emotionally..

Coming to his behavior... it's his nature that he is flawed and keeps making mistakes...His upbringing is a reason too.. He must change and he will change once he finds Sai loves him too.. but that change will definitely take time.

Honestly, I dont really want the love to be compared to Pakhi, because I treat it as wakti fitoor...One thing that I agree with when it comes to vile woman.. I just am confused on where does his protective side, safeguarding her respect goes when she is being attacked.. He does realise that his vehni does not go through the atrocities that his wife goes through and she needs to have some slack cut down there...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I don't think Virat love Sai he is only attracted to Sai bcoz she is his wife that's it .

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thanks for the tag Asmi ❤️

This show is beginning to get too depressing....so not having the mood to write. Will try to reply later ....and will tag you if I do.🤗

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