Pakhi & EMA - Page 3

No,she never wanted ema from virat.She wants his attention only. She wants vurat to only keep her in his heart as he promised thats it.

Originally posted by: tptwi

Really interesting take, Laksh. So, then, my question for you is this - had Samrat not left, would she have acted any differently? Or, would she have moved on in her marriage while still expecting Virat to always remain committed to her?

You have provided a really convincing analysis of her mental state. I think the part where I differ is that while you see her actions as attempts to keep Virat and Sai separated, I see her actions as attempts to get close to Virat. Do you really think that she did not expect anything to happen on the Ladhak trip?

I think if Samrat had not left, she would have kept brooding. As I have said, she had realised what she had gotten herself into. She would have tried to continue stay with him. As time passes and as she would have started to see and realise Samrat’s expectations from her as a wife, I feel that she might have thought of how to break it to him that she doesn’t love him. She wouldn’t have let him come close to her but she also might not be able to let him know what the reason is or even if she tells him that she loves someone else, don’t think she might have shared whom she loves.

Her expectations from Virat would have been the same. But I also feel that Samrat might have tried to change the situation. It could be that if Virat got married to Sai and had come home, she would have acted the same way as now even if Samrat was around. Samrat might have understood what her problem is too. I think in all of these, when she sees Sairat together and at the same time Samrat tries to make it work, trying to help her or make it work without knowing that she loves Virat, she might have eventually moved on. She might start it to make Virat feel jealous but once she realises that it doesn’t matter to Virat and that Virat only loves Sai, she might consider to move on, to give a chance to her marriage too. Only thing is that things wouldn’t have been as ugly as it is now. Not only has Virat got married to Sai, she is getting to witness him move on in front of her eyes and that too this soon. She has been alone ever since Sairat moved to CN and that really would make a huge difference I think. Even if she wouldn’t let Samrat enter her private space, wouldn’t try to give her marriage a chance, I think she might have found some friend or a roommate or partner to whom she would slowly warmed up. I think she would have had someone to return to, where she could have found solace. She is stubborn and hence she wouldn’t move on like Virat. She might have tried to create issues, would have even ended up hating Samrat but I feel that things would have definitely changed.

Yeah, I really feel that she did not expect anything to happen in Ladakh other than having Virat for herself, giving time only for her. She also wanted to make Sai feel jealous, to show that she has an upper hand always, that Virat can never be hers.

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

When she agreed to marry Samrat her intention was not EMA at-least not a full blown one . I believe she was happy just to be close to Virat as a friend . She knew if she breaks the marriage she will never get Virat at least here she will be there as a friend and moreover as per his Vaada he will be single so she doesn’t ever have to worry about seeing him with anyone . he would be forever grateful to her for marrying his brother and he would keep her on high pedestal . I don’t think she had time to think through and plan everything .She agreed to marry Samrat in her emotional state just like Virat gave away the Vaada . She could have backed out after her dad spoke to her but it was too early and she was still nursing a broken heart . I think if the wedding was a month away or so she would time to think through what she wants We can say it’s kind of emotional infidelity but I don’t think she realized it then . I still hold her responsible for her actions . If someone needs to be blamed for her marriage with Samrat , it’s her

Things changed when Virat got married . She felt betrayed and her jealousy took over . Now she had to fight for his attention as he was too involved with Sai and her life . If we think about it Virat always thought about Sai and stood by her from the time he met her . What she thought about spending time as a friend never happened . I am saying this again , he refused any kind of conversation or meeting if it didn’t involve her husband or his wife . Pakhi became insecure and her venomous attitude came out .

It might be an unpopular opinion but she was never intelligent enough to plan and plot . If she was she would have never sided with Kaku and gang against Virat or at least would never do that infront of Virat . Her own words and action made Virat lose respect for her and she lost a friend . If she was an intelligent negative character, she would have behaved differently. The only time I saw her planning and plotting was during letter kand and Ajinkya time and I must say she was terrible at it . She was caught for the latter in no time and for the former lot of things happened so the focus got shifted .

I agree that she was never intelligent enough to plan and plot...but that is different from hoping and wanting, right? So, maybe she did not scheme herself into this situation in hopes of an EMA, but she might have still desired it. I agree that when Virat married Sai, her jealously took over. She became vile, when she was just emotional before. But, then, what do you make of her entering their bedroom in the middle of the night trying to kick Sai out so that she could be alone there with him? And what about her insisting to pack his things in the same suitcase and go on the Ladhak trip without Sai- that, too, to save a few days at the end for vacation? Sure, she was fighting for his attention and him to keep her place above Sai's, but doesn't this behavior scream a desire to get close to him? And what about her dream holi dance with Virat? She was imagining herself getting close to him there too....

Yeah me too felt she never wanted ema. May be if samrat doesn’t come and sai is out of virats life, she had a hope that they will get together but after ousting kaand and virats feelings doused her hopes.

she now knows she can’t get virat. She wants him to suffer or just remain single.

but the way she keeps on creating misunderstandings makes me think that she stil has hope that she could get virat?!! I mean legally. Like sai and samrat leaving and them getting married. I don’t know 🤷‍♀️

Originally posted by: laksh

I think if Samrat had not left, she would have kept brooding. As I have said, she had realised what she had gotten herself into. She would have tried to continue stay with him. As time passes and as she would have started to see and realise Samrat’s expectations from her as a wife, I feel that she might have thought of how to break it to him that she doesn’t love him. She wouldn’t have let him come close to her but she also might not be able to let him know what the reason is or even if she tells him that she loves someone else, don’t think she might have shared whom she loves.

Her expectations from Virat would have been the same. But I also feel that Samrat might have tried to change the situation. It could be that if Virat got married to Sai and had come home, she would have acted the same way as now even if Samrat was around. Samrat might have understood what her problem is too. I think in all of these, when she sees Sairat together and at the same time Samrat tries to make it work, trying to help her or make it work without knowing that she loves Virat, she might have eventually moved on. She might start it to make Virat feel jealous but once she realises that it doesn’t matter to Virat and that Virat only loves Sai, she might consider to move on, to give a chance to her marriage too. Only thing is that things wouldn’t have been as ugly as it is now. Not only has Virat got married to Sai, she is getting to witness him move on in front of her eyes and that too this soon. She has been alone ever since Sairat moved to CN and that really would make a huge difference I think. Even if she wouldn’t let Samrat enter her private space, wouldn’t try to give her marriage a chance, I think she might have found some friend or a roommate or partner to whom she would slowly warmed up. I think she would have had someone to return to, where she could have found solace. She is stubborn and hence she wouldn’t move on like Virat. She might have tried to create issues, would have even ended up hating Samrat but I feel that things would have definitely changed.

Yeah, I really feel that she did not expect anything to happen in Ladakh other than having Virat for herself, giving time only for her. She also wanted to make Sai feel jealous, to show that she has an upper hand always, that Virat can never be hers.

I feel as though I would be more keen on agreeing with this perspective had they not added in certain key moments such as..

1. The holi dance- she imagined herself getting close to him physically, even sitting on his lap. She was in a drunk state, and her true desires were coming out.

2. The most recent shirt sniffing scene- the way in which she was touching his pillow and sniffing his shirt- both of these things have extremely physical connotations in my mind... revealing physical desires towards him.

3. Her insisting to feed Virat with her own hands, even when Sai was not around...

4. The red night gown scene and her expression of lust

5. When kaku told her she looked beautiful before embarking on the Ladhak trip, she got shy

I still find it hard to believe that she didn't expect something to happen in Ladhak... but, perhaps she was just trying to enjoy his company without Sai around...

Originally posted by: tptwi

I agree that she was never intelligent enough to plan and plot...but that is different from hoping and wanting, right? So, maybe she did not scheme herself into this situation in hopes of an EMA, but she might have still desired it. I agree that when Virat married Sai, her jealously took over. She became vile, when she was just emotional before. But, then, what do you make of her entering their bedroom in the middle of the night trying to kick Sai out so that she could be alone there with him? And what about her insisting to pack his things in the same suitcase and go on the Ladhak trip without Sai- that, too, to save a few days at the end for vacation? Sure, she was fighting for his attention and him to keep her place above Sai's, but doesn't this behavior scream a desire to get close to him? And what about her dream holi dance with Virat? She was imagining herself getting close to him there too....

Exactly if she did not want an EMA.. why would she long for his touch during the holi event.. she saying I can still sense Virat touching my cheeks with such love 🤮 She caressing his pillow.. hugging his shirt… if the roles were reversed and it was a guy doing such things… will there be a doubt in our minds about his EMA intentions??

Yeah I agree pakhi is not intelligent. She is arrogant for sure and so full of herself. The audacity with which she openly talks about the past in front of the family without regards to anyone is something else. Like she doesn’t care at that moment when she is hurt. I am hurt and I will talk anything kind of attitude. Exactly opposite to virat 😅

Originally posted by: Amor_fati

I think she never embarked on the relationship with Samrat with the intent of EMA. She always wanted to stay close to her one true love, to admire him from arms distance, always remain that special person to him, a person with whom she shared her inner most secrets, with whom she can spend hours talking about their day to day life. Though she did not have the intent, her motives behind marrying Samrat was obviously wrong in so many levels. She was morally wrong when she chose to marry someone in order to stay in close proximity to a person towards whom she still had unresolved romantic feelings.

She started to have an emotional affair, the moment she dreamt of marrying Virat during her own wedding with Samrat. These feelings grew stronger and she always wanted to stay close to him, think about him and craving for his shoulders to cry upon. Then slowly this turned into an obsession when she saw Virat falling for Sai. She clearly wanted to have EMA during the Ladakh trip, the way she kept insisting to pack Virat's clothes in her bag and was keen in spending some alone time with him, in such romantic location in the lap of nature. Other instances were her holi dance dreams, she trying to feed him something, thinking ways to a man's heart is through his stomach. She always wanted to get rid of Sai so that he would be free and can proceed with her wish to seduce him.

She caressing his pillow in his absence, sniffing his shirt and hugging it while crying clearly proved that her obsession crossed the threshold and it is perverse now.

She needs immediate psychiatric help.

Ladakh trip was definitely an eye opener. Few other scenes which also made me believe she was looking for EMA were

- touching Virat at every opportunity she gets

- wanting to feed him with her own hands

- asking him to come inside the room in the red night dress

- asking him to calm down and she would get food for him in her bedroom

- her wanting to have dinner with Virat in his room right after Sai was kicked out

- dreaming about sitting on his lap during the holi song

- not wanting to lose his touch on her cheeks during holi

- insinuation dialogue by Kaku about how beautiful she looks when she is ready for the trip and her all shy about the same

If Sai was not in the picture, she would not have become so crazy. She would have spent her time in CN (in Samrat's absence) as an unlucky woman whose husband was MIA. She would have been nice to CN members and tried to win their approval to be in Virat's good books. She would have been emotionally satisfied with Virta being attached to her and being there for her emotionally when she was feeling down.

Ladakh trip - I think she became desperate to go alone with him ...because she never found opportunity to talk aaram she with Virat ...because of Sai's presence in his life. I remember a promo that was aired during that time - in which Pakhi's monologue is - that it has been a long time since she been able to talk to Virat....in the trip she will tell him of her troubles, tell him about her grievances against him. If Sai hadn't been there, she would have probably gone with Mohit to Ladakh.

Entering the room at night...she might have still done it...whenever she felt like talking to Virat. Although she might not have been this desperate ....because he will always be avialble for her any time.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Yeah me too felt she never wanted ema. May be if samrat doesn’t come and sai is out of virats life, she had a hope that they will get together but after ousting kaand and virats feelings doused her hopes.

she now knows she can’t get virat. She wants him to suffer or just remain single.

but the way she keeps on creating misunderstandings makes me think that she stil has hope that she could get virat?!! I mean legally. Like sai and samrat leaving and them getting married. I don’t know 🤷‍♀️

@bolded: This is what confuses me too. At this point, Virat has made it crystal clear that he loves Sai and only Sai. And yet, her attempts to separate them have not stopped...and it does not seem like they will be stopping anytime soon either. I cannot seem to grasp the intentions behind this. Is it really just that she wants Virat to suffer and remain single? But then why did she go into his bedroom and touch his things in such a sexual way? I don't know yaar...