Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the ugliest of them all? - Page 8

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Heartbreaking post Janaki..Relived the pain that I experienced while watching the episode.

My heart bleeds for Aswini who realised that Virat is Virat Ninad Chavan. Truly and completely. How sad she is to realise this fact! Her dulara,her Godu in whom she always took pride,turned out to be the one who will continue the legacy of Bhavani but not of Aswini,the noble ,kindhearted woman of Chavan Nivas. For Sai,I just can’t even express what I felt..Pack your bags my dearest.This is not the place for Kohinoors like you . This suits the poisonous Nagin, who spills venom in regular intervals.

Moving out is definitely the best option for her and even for Virat to really be able to find the space they need to contemplate...

Originally posted by: sukri

After all this, how will the poor girl trust him to sleep on the same bed as him. He has left her with no option but to leave his room and CN. He literally took away everything given to her as part of the deal out of his great ehsaan.

Though its good he clarified his stand with Pakhi, why do we believe Virat when he said his truth to Pakhi about him not having any feelings?

If so, why does she have so much influence on him? What makes him go back to her again and again.

Will he let Sunny talk about Sai like this with him and listen silently and let him abuse her/ question her character/ rile Virat up?

Heartbreaking post, Janki. These past two days have been extremely hard as a viewer. And as for Sai, I just want to hug her tightly and let her know that everything will be okay. I swore not to watch this show anymore because we don't need this regressive content in 2021. Since it's a show meant for entertainment and it is riding on SaiRat, a heartfelt repentance would be okay, I guess. But sometimes I can't differentiate between real and reel. What Virat did today was unacceptable and unforgivable and girls in real life should know that this behaviour is not okay. They don't deserve this. And if ever came across a real Sai who was treated this way by a real Virat, I would definitely advise her to LEAVE FOR GOOD. Virat being sorry just doesn't cut it for me.

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Hats off Janki for writing today!

Heart wrenching episode.

My mom who watches with me, was so proud that Sai doesn't back down. And I am too. Yes, she is brash, rude..but no-one deserves this much of humiliation ..at the hands of the one she trusted most after her father.

How will they redeem Virat? And can I as a viewer watch with the faith that he won't go down this path again? And he does, we know that.

Patriarchy runs in every fibre of that house..forget patriarchy, this is plain humanity. I felt terrible for Ashwini...her disappointment, her dismay that her son has imbibed the same characteristics she had probably tried hard to shield him from.

I have nothing to say about Pakhi... except that she gets one more confidante scene with Virat?? And that really takes the cake.

The creatives should have tweaked this scene .. it's just too brutal.

Yes, both Sai and Ashwini, who genuinely feel proud of him without any vested interests or reasons, are the two women most let down today.

Originally posted by: prs_725

You make a very valid point. However, in the beginning as well, Sai would not listen to him in everything but he knew how to handle those situations with grace and pyaar se samjhana.. recently it seems like his character has taken a completely new turn. Pal mein masha toh pal mein tola.. it could be that this is how he always was and because now he has started to like her, his this side is coming out. Prior to this, it was all formal. So we see a Virat in his personal life who is completely diff than professional. There are two versions of him. However, then was the version in the beginning of the relationship the wrong version? His character is extremely confusing to me so I can’t understand if all this is done for trp or they already had in mind that this is how his character is ..

The version of Virat we saw in the beginning was just Virat and Virat with Sai. Back then when Sai and Virat had argued, Virat had none of his family members by his side to instigate him.

Now that after the marriage, both Sai and Virat are having no space to deal fights alone and the involvement of the family is driving them both crazy. And both have a liking towards eachother that they are unable to express and lack of communication on the right things.

We find versions to his character because the story is happening in his house along with his family members. It is Virat whose character gets scrutinized often because his equation is not only with Sai but also with his family members. So he is assessed based on how he reacts to his family's words and action. We expect him to fight his own family.

Sai too has her own flaws. Her temper and anger on certain things overshadows the truth she tries to convey. She gets instigated by her enemies too soon. Being brought up by a single parent, she is facing her own share of troubles. But she holds strong moral values and speaks her heart out. That is why people are fond of her character despite her minuses.

Professional and personal lives are different to a great extent. If a girl like Sai had gone to ACP Virat for taking action against her husband and family for denying food/threatening her on daily basis, you would have seen a professional Virat who would have taught that family the right lesson!

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

I am not sure if we can say there is no way because spiritually, religiously and legally, one is allowed to repent. Pashchyataap is a very powerful way to cleanse sins but it should be genuine. However, it can only give another chance, it cannot erase what has already been registered on the mind and the heart.

One of the reason why Sai might be willing to also forgive this time so soon is because she kind of is upset/ finds herself at fault maybe for fighting with Virat and family to visit Pulkit's house and for having misjudged her professor.

Had it been a successful mission, her anger and war with Chavans would have been at a different level.

But she should accept nothing less than his clarification not only about his behavior today but also his stand on his dosti and deal. He has to somehow indicate he started to have feelings (doesnt have to say love) for her, keep aside the deal and start afresh, otherwise this was too much humiliation of Sai and their relationship in front of family.

Also why do they behave as if its just another Sunday where line me sabki beizzati hoti hain, then kaam pe chalo and then return for another round. They move on from one beizzati to another as if its part and parcel of their life. I would be thinking about it for days if it was me.

Also all the weekdays Omi and Ninad sit at home and gossip with Kaku. On Sunday they went out. Yeh kya hai.

Originally posted by: Taiyo

The alta episode, where Virat used the word "force," was the start of a good character's destruction. Show creatives sketched him differently from his original version, made him stress again and again that he cannot think of misbehaving with a woman, gave him scenes where he came across as a decent man with human flaws, and then they turn him into a character that one can longer identify with. And they do this when the TRPs are high. Sad. Imagine what would have happened if the TRPs were low.

"Rage" can undo the finest of decent men. It is a new emotion for him that he is unable to handle. They showed us a Virat who could not think of misbehaving with a woman because he had never handled a woman so close, one who could affect him so much and really even be the deciding factor about how he should feel about himself... I always thought he was too good to be true. At some point in life, every self-sacrificial lamb will stand up for something that he/she cannot let go of -- this relationship is that for him. He wants to control but he also wants tenderness. When the tenderness goes missing, he tries to establish control. I would count this current transgression as his worst and also the 'shock value' it brought. I am angry with him but I also feel bad for him. But i feel worse for Sai.

I have no problem with male protagonists who are complete jerks if they have been that way from the beginning. But, I cannot digest the sudden change in a character's core trait because writers cannot think of something original. The connection with the character is lost. The love story between Sai and Virat no longer makes sense. It is not the Virat that I was rooting for to fall in love with Sai, and vice versa.

Let's see how they fix the damage they have both done to each other -- to each of them, the other has humiliated them to a totally low point. But one of them crossed the line of justice -- that was Virat.

Janki, to me as a reader, your pieces continue to bring great joy. I learn a lot about human emotions from them. Thank you for writing.

I love hearing from you and the others. Look at the discussion this has turned into. SO MUCH food for thought, I feel satiated! 🤗❤️

Originally posted by: Radiant_Eyes_

People have worst fights in family but depriving someone from food n water is the lowest level one can go to.

And tbh I have seen ppl getting sadistic pleasure by doing this in real life , it's such a shame to our humanity 👎🏼

Albeit not with their spouse but the old ppl in house. The oppression of weak in house is practised so much , that it's heartbreaking to see how families function 👎🏼

And sadly such things are done behind 4 walls of the house and the same ppl paint a happy picture in front of the Society. Similar to these chavans🤪

I think Virat thinks it's an okay way to 'discipline' someone because we've seen his elders do the same. And now apparently he has taken upon himself to ' teach n discipline' Sai like he has control over goons🤪 - his dialogue the other day gave me this feeling.

But then what has he learnt from his education so far ? Chavans are literate but not educated imo.

It's cool that they're showing these things that happen in a household , because they do actually happen in real life - probably worse than this. But I just hope they also show consequences n redemption arc for it n not leave it after Virat sheds 2-3 tears

These dark arcs have so much potential for exploration

Completely agree with you. Virat thinks he is "disciplining" her because he has had enough of her no-filter version that has now actually ended up baring his and Vahini's truth in front of the family outside the confines of their room. Worse, he has moved on from what was once the truth and forgotten to convey to the wounded wife. So he thinks she humiliated him and she thinks (rightfully) that he humiliated her. There is a difference in being literate and educated and I totally agree that Chavans like so many others in real life are behaving like this because education really does not change someone's mental conditioning!

Originally posted by: jane_austen

Sai was definitely a powerful reason to watch the show. Unfortunately, if they show Sai accepting Virat, then it will be butchering of the FL too. More so because they would have reduced a strong, confident woman to a caged bird.

If she should accept him, it should be on changed conditions and renewed promises. Only after he has repented for real. No other way to this.

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Now the issue of male entitlement is so complex. There is no man on this planet who doesn't have a sense of entitlement on the woman in his life. I want to generalise that in my loudest voice. The entire world suffers this patriarchal trait of men -- they all deem they are entitled to complete control over the women and yes, 90% of the women are caught in a situation where the male entitlement is accompanied by rigid, unbending, remorseless abuse of some kind and the entire onus of the functioning of the marriage is based on the compliance the woman offers to what the husband wants.

I won't get into other aspects of the reviews, as I've usually respected your analysis on the episodes, even though I am not a regular visitor on the forum but seriously bold part ?

Who gave you the right to decide that, I as a man - have entitlement on ladies in my life ? As you've gone ahead & "generalized" all men - in your own "loudest voice" ? Have you talked to any lady in my life ? Right from my late grand mother, late mom, to the best friends & other ladies I have & had in my life ?

Since you've gone ahead & generalized men - can I assume, all women are all like "Kangana Ranaut", abusive, petty, manipulative, sadistic, opportunistic in their own ways ?

By doing so, I'm doing a great deal of disrepect to all the ladies who've been there in my life since my day 1.

If you said, quite a large percentage of men think, they have entitlement on women - I would agree to a large extent but your generalization has lead to me to think twice before opening your posts in future.

You've come across as one of the most mature members on the group. I'm not referring to the maturity of PP but a genuine one & I'm seriously disappointed.