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Posted: 4 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: Nutella03

Do y’all think he can redeem himself, ever? What possible form of apology could he offer that would soothe Sai? He was a monster today. I didn’t even watch the episode just saw the last scene where she hands him the money, the scene with maushi, and Ninad threatening to slap Ashwini. But in all of the scenes, Virat didn’t seem as blinded by hurt and rage as yesterday. Now, there will be no moment when he would have a sudden awakening, like he did when he clasped her hand. Today he seemed awake, and was doing all this consciously. When that’s the case, well then, there’s really no point in discussing further, right? All of his softness, his argument to let Mohit eat, all of that just seems fake. Now it seems according to him, his family was not wrong in denying food to Mohit, it was just that Mohit’s crime wasn’t big enough for him to be given such a severe punishment. Today, it seemed like he thought Sai deserves this. I can’t ever see him in the same light again. Although ngl, I saw glimpses of his real expectations from Sai when he said things like “if you do chores, doesn’t mean you’re a maid” Doesn’t that apply to you too dude? The alta track is another glaring example of how he took joy at the cost of her getting hurt. When he used to thank her for doing so much household work, that also really ticked me off. He’s like those men who keep praising their wife for being able to do so much work, handling the house and profession. Instead of sitting on the couch and appreciating her, why not get up and help her?


Anyway, everyone was saying, that today is a pivotal episode, as that will decide whether they will continue with the show or not. For me ,it will be the episode when (if?) Virat apologises to Sai. I have very low expectations, but I’m interested in seeing what the makers think is a good enough apology to repair this dark blotch on Virat’s character and their relationship. I hope Sai says something like this (to quote the Dowager Countess’s dialogue from Downton Abbey in a very very different situation)

“Forgive, perhaps. Forget, never”.

Apologies cannot change anything but resolve to never repeat the mistake and putting it into action can slowly heal the scars -- This entire blow up will have no meaning if both of them return to square one and remain tied to their misconceptions about each other. So, for them to be truly able to move on Virat has to repent and apologise and Sai has to decide if she wants to accept the apology and give him another chance... But yes, the incident will definitely remain stored in memory. It cannot be erased. May be if they do spend happy days together in life, their happy memories will slowly replace the recall of this ugly moment they gave one another...

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Posted: 4 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

She called him Mr. Virat Chavan . No sir, no respect.

Aaj ke baad even if she stays, there should be no Sir. They are equals going forward.

But I think more than addressing him as "Sir" out of respect, it will be to define the boundary of formality. That is, if she takes time to overcome this... I do think it is time that he tells her to stop calling him 'Sir'. How can you fall in love with a man who thinks he has the actual 'Knighthood' conferred upon him just because she calls him 'Sir' smiley36



I also feel its time now to stop calling him Sir.

She is not a bacchi, he is not her aaba replacement, move on from this phase and step to next phase where they accept each other as partners. Come up with a replacement for Sir, maybe , but it has to go.


@Red - smiley37smiley37đŸ€Ł

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Posted: 4 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Roch


Mata itni positivity laati kahan se ho, its very easy to love someone at their best but you have to accept someone at their worst. Rightly said by both of you actually.

But that is a fact - that is what love is about. Now, we are yet to see if the are in that kind of 'love' already or not. Positivity toh khoon mein hai 😉


Virat is at his worst (hopefully) at the moment. He needs to wake and he will. Lets see how and when but all this is really draining thinking why should she endure all this pain. For him??? then him better do something for it.


Also i have been irritated with the same precap, but a thought crossed my mind after looking at the precap.

Vahini says to him, even if Sai goes against you I will always be by your side. Now that's the difference.

Few episodes (Mohit wala), Sai had said if something is wrong I can stand against anyone. If Vahini's statement reminds him of that, it would a classic (but I know high hopes). He needs to know if she is fighting against him then he somewhere is doing something wrong.

Hmmm..... Let this scene play out. I feel they have shot a special promo for the precap which is not the actual scene. It felt so from the khana nahi milega dialogue in the promo and in the scene today.. 😆 I could be wrong

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Posted: 4 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: chinnu_kaku

kitna ghatiya episode hey..the more i see virat mujaey apni pati ki yaad dilati hey..he is exactly same yaar... leking meri saas tho single mother hey from his baby days,i wonder where he learned this mcp thing..i am now literally scared for my kids future... i dont have anynother option too..unko apna paapa bahuth pasandh hey and meraey bachaey very clear hey ki they want both the parents..i am always worried that how kids will treat their wife in future if my parivar mistreats me in front of them.. agar mein ya apnaey saas uskaey bath nahi maani aur result bad nikaltha tho zindagi bar yehi bolltha pati ki baath nahi maanaegaey tho aisa hi hoga.meraey saas ko bhi buri tarah daantha hey lekin finally donoan maa betaey milkaey meraey muh par zahar daal detaen.

meraey parents supportive bhi nahi hey..

already i was worried ,now i am.feeling heavy..younger one understands me.but the elder one keeps on fighting with me for everything and my pati instead of teaching my kid manners,shuts my mouth. mein kaabhi sochthi hoon mera parents kaey baad zindagi kaisa hoga? my paapa be mcp hey leking,he was bot blind on kids,bahuth daanthaey hein humaey for our galthiyaan.. i am literally scared now..


sorry apnaey baath kehnaey ki.lekin koi mujaey batao mein iss situation saey bahar aaun.


parents hotaey huaey aisa haal hey tho sai jaisaey kitnaey ladkiyaan hey jhinka parents nahi hotaey aur zindagi bar suffer kartaey..


i will better stop watching this bullshit.

I request all the mbers to stop shipping sairat as virat is a đŸ€Ź. no girl deserves such a man..

no more sairat OS for me.

Plz , be strong... Currently depending upon on your I can't advise you...I would try to make my parents understand my problem and take help from them, but as your in situation and completely aware of the situation you are the only one who can take right decision Because it should be your decision to move on or not... But I will always keep you and your kids in my prayers. I hope what ever decision you take you get succeed in it and lead a happy life. ..

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Posted: 4 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: Bechain_Bulbul

@bold totally agree. As ashwini once said that pati patni ke beech kya chalta hai ye sirf unhi ko pata hota hai. Its very easy to put a relationship in realms of white and black, right and wrong but sairat are not gf-bf, they are husband- wife. A relationship of husband and wife is very complex and intricately built. They're no whites and blacks, there are grey areas as well and its totally upto them to decide its fate. No one can judge their actions no one can tell them what to do.

Love how you have put it. A lot of couples go through ugly fights. This was theirs. It crossed all limits because they are yet to acknowledge and verbalise the love that is between them -- more than the accha chahne wale pati patni status -- and also the sense of belonging that has not been established. When you have established the intimacy at all levels, you at least know where you must draw the line before you begin hitting below the belt. Both of them have transgressed but I understand Sai's angst is bigger than Virat's (not discounting his anguish) because Sai is being mob lynched for being his wife by people who have no business to do so and he's not doing anything to address that. In their private space, they would have accepted that grey conversation but it was in public view..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: SathyaT

Today, she did't even had the energy to answer back more to kaku gang, thrice she been stopped when she tried to move to her room 😕 if they dont like her then why are they stopping and exaggerating the fight, they can simply ignore her at least..

She was drained because the fight was between Virat and her. It affects her. Add to that her misunderstood facts at Pulkit's which added to her disappointment.

@bold: to create a scene to instigate Virat.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepzz

Great analysis Janaki. I am a fan of ur writing and ur understanding of the characters.

Episode was heartbreaking and felt really low after watching it.

I am sad but not surprised of Virat's behaviour because children learn what they see and that is why it is very important for parents to keep their actions and words in check all the time around them.

We have seen Ashwini's upbringing in Virat 's mannerisms, calm, composed, caring nature but it will be a mistake to assume that Ninad's behaviour has not impacted Virat's personality. Unknown to himself, he has imbibed Ninad's traits too but it is Ashwini's parivarish which helps him to keep them in check, in control and makes him feel guilty for his wrong doings. Today, his behaviour has revealed how much CN gang has influenced his personality.

Tomorrow, if Virat feels guilty for his actions it will be the victory of Ashwini's parivarish over Ninad. Regardless of this victory, it completely depends on Sai if she want to accept such man and continue the relationship. She will have to decide for herself --what and how much she can accept and how much she can let go in the relationship.

Thank you dear! Totally agree with you about Ashwini.. she must be broken. I can't wait for her to speak up to her son tomorrow.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: KBBofRCIBC

when I read the post if women can write such stuff, my immediate response was yes! Probably because of my life experiences;) tbh I have seen women creating havoc in lives of each other more than the men in their lives:( yes jealousy ego for whatever reason.

I do agree with your point though that, women can write better about these patriarchy stuff because of the experience they have been through.

It’s true indeed for every Pakhi & Bhavani there is Sai and Ashwini.

This is exactly what I love about your analysis and discussions :) in depth and Positivity ki Treasury ho Aap â€ïžđŸ’



Awww.. I will sleep with a smile tonight. Thank you â˜ș

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Love how you have put it. A lot of couples go through ugly fights. This was theirs. It crossed all limits because they are yet to acknowledge and verbalise the love that is between them -- more than the accha chahne wale pati patni status -- and also the sense of belonging that has not been established. When you have established the intimacy at all levels, you at least know where you must draw the line before you begin hitting below the belt. Both of them have transgressed but I understand Sai's angst is bigger than Virat's (not discounting his anguish) because Sai is being mob lynched for being his wife by people who have no business to do so and he's not doing anything to address that. In their private space, they would have accepted that grey conversation but it was in public view..

as crazy neil fan and equally crazy virat supporter this episode was so difficult for me to digest but i swallowed it somehome in the hope of the life saver episode of virat's opology. may be it will come only on monday. in between we will get ashwini, shivani, mohit taunting virat about his mistake and that extra creative scene of virakhi which was not there in KD and NM but cvs decide to torture us with it.

hope they dont mess up monday's episode

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: BlueJayFire


Nice episode and beautiful analysis Janki. My heart went away to both today. However, I am not upset. My expectations were met, because this is how they are managing Virat as a person and his characterization is spot on, when someone instigates me, I will not think, but pounce on the victim.


Whatever is up with Pulkhit. Is he scared of CN that he wants Sai to drop his case?

I agree with you totally. I am able to relate with the situation Sai and Virat are even in this ugliest moment...

Am sure Pulkit knows he needs support to be able to reinforce his rights on Devyani

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