Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the ugliest of them all? - Page 6

Great analysis Janaki. I am a fan of ur writing and ur understanding of the characters.

Episode was heartbreaking and felt really low after watching it.

I am sad but not surprised of Virat's behaviour because children learn what they see and that is why it is very important for parents to keep their actions and words in check all the time around them.

We have seen Ashwini's upbringing in Virat 's mannerisms, calm, composed, caring nature but it will be a mistake to assume that Ninad's behaviour has not impacted Virat's personality. Unknown to himself, he has imbibed Ninad's traits too but it is Ashwini's parivarish which helps him to keep them in check, in control and makes him feel guilty for his wrong doings. Today, his behaviour has revealed how much CN gang has influenced his personality.

Tomorrow, if Virat feels guilty for his actions it will be the victory of Ashwini's parivarish over Ninad. Regardless of this victory, it completely depends on Sai if she want to accept such man and continue the relationship. She will have to decide for herself --what and how much she can accept and how much she can let go in the relationship.

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Your response is thought provoking! Yes, it is usually always a woman who pulls another woman down -- education does not matter. It is because women are also enforcers of patriarchy. Ask any man, who is actually a doting father or an adorable husband, and very often you will hear that it is a woman in the house who objects to the man trying to break patriarchy. Something as simple as a wife objecting to a husband giving their daughter the permission to be out late -- both husband, wife and daughter are a loving family, no toxicity but the mother will reinforce it in her daughter that she will be unsafe outside -- the care is also genuine but then, it is is a patriarchal thought that we begin imbibing in a woman right since the time she's being raised as a baby or adolescent.

Some women pull others down because they want to pass on the hurt they have experienced at the stage or situation that this other woman is now. Some pull them down out of sheer jealousy.

But it is true that for every woman who enforces patriarchy in toxic ways, there is a woman who breaks that toxicity and lifts the other woman up -- as they say, being the woman who will straighten the crown of another woman without letting her know. For every Patralekha, there is a Sai. For every Bhavani, there is also an Ashwini -- one day they will strike back, and that is the order of the world.

Women authors can also tell a woman's story in a way men can't -- I won't say men don't tell a woman's story well but it is really only a woman who can tell another woman's story.

when I read the post if women can write such stuff, my immediate response was yes! Probably because of my life experiences;) tbh I have seen women creating havoc in lives of each other more than the men in their lives:( yes jealousy ego for whatever reason.

I do agree with your point though that, women can write better about these patriarchy stuff because of the experience they have been through.

It’s true indeed for every Pakhi & Bhavani there is Sai and Ashwini.

This is exactly what I love about your analysis and discussions :) in depth and Positivity ki Treasury ho Aap ❤️💐

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Today it's not a good morning 🥺 Absolutely NOT

What a gut-wrenching portrayal of domestic violence was that. And at the hands of an IPS officer who's assigned to head a team to protect women 👏👏👏 The scar of a violence if its just holding hand can never be forgotten or forgiven. I really wish the CVS didnt take this route.

I must forget the profession for a moment because it is true that many men who are enforcers or law do have lowly minds. But, Virat Ninad Chavan, what was that display of being the chaheeta beta whose parvarish was done by the Queen B of the rotting Chakram niwas? The ugliest side of him came out -- should I dare to say ugliest? Or is he going to spring more surprises that will change this fact.

To me this humiliation is worse than him asking her to leave the house whenever that happens because that will be the solution -- setting her free and setting himself free from an untenable situation... Whether they unite after that or not is entirely up to their emotions that will then drive their mind and action once they separate. But to inflict this humiliation and want to keep someone tied to abide by you is inexcusable -- this is his lowest and this HAS to be the beginning point of his realisation for his emotion and for the emotion of the woman he thinks is the one God carved out of his own rib -- Holy smokes that sense of 'haqq' has has on her to decide if she should eat a meal to cure her migraine or not. Are we supposed to excuse this only because he did not pull a bhara hua plate from her hand while she was eating a morsel and so it is a 'better' act? Or is this his desperate attempt to ensure she eats the next meal only with him? I really am in no mood to pander to your ego today. Absolutely spot on. The hurt and humiliation called with various name calling, money and food now..No shame to anyone in the house of CN. The care and concern shown by Virat can never overcome the damage he has done to this girl, in this janam. Its more like taking her kaid than anything else. You balloons, cadburys, candyfloss or even the toxic tea cant undo this particular sequence.

Yes he is hurting but it doesn't matter that you're hurting when you decide to cross over to the side of the evil and act in ways that are beyond redemption. Is there anything that can redeem this -- not just the redemption of the person he should have been but the redemption of the very 'right' he thinks he has in this woman that is driving him crazy. What sense of male entitlement is this to crush her self respect and still stand tall to claim your rights?

Unfortunately, viewing the entire fight, the husband and wife did the worst things to reach this point of no return as it seems -- Living over two days of an unresolved fight and an extremely inflated ego, thanks to all the toxicity that inherently forms part of the thought process due to the conditioning over the years and added fresh dose of the zeher being spewed -- I would also say being asked for because he's the one heading to the venom willingly. But there's no denying the toxicity of the constant reminders to men, who are taught right from their birth that they have an inherent right to power, right to anger and also the right to display it. The conditioning that women will always be polite, beautiful and submissive to the orders issued by the men because 'Main bol raha hoon' and that the woman must not only labour in domestic chores but also the emotional investment to keep the family together while the man can be the protective providers and dominant, at the verge of inflicting violence.

Both husband and wife made some below the belt comments earlier and made the biggest error that a couple can make -- speaking every word of the relationship that exists between them in public, allowing every single spectator to the match to collect information needed to be used for their own purpose -- all because the palpable anger because of the 'intimacy' break got the better of them! 🥺 Absolutely spot on, its like giving clues to the enemies to break your fort. There is anger and who is better than the other, verbal war, self esteem, control, everything to show that they are equals and one doesnt need the other.

Virat's stand makes it clear -- hurting himself or not, with malice or not -- he does not care about Sai's honour when he's upset. This is not a first when he's done that. In fact, with each passing incident, the level of humiliation he throws her to is even more deplorable. He wouldn't care one bit before offering his wife and mother to the wolves when they don't agree with him or follow his word without questions asked. Whether we like it or not, this is his character trait and as Ashwini said, "Beta Baap par jaata hai... He has done what he has seen his father doing since his childhood"...

Right from his interruption to Ashwini's fetching meal for Sai, to pronouncing the verdict that she doesn't deserve a meal served to her in the house, to reminding her that the 'money' she's showing off is his -- right after the first installment of physical force (yes, in the stupor of rage but it can't be denied), to participating equally in the uncalled for verbal exchange between the two partners -- there isn't a single line that the 'husband' did not cross in full public view since the beginning of the fight.

So, what sense of male entitlement is this? Just like the entire toxic family, talking about what Virat deserves and what the unchahee bahu has supposedly taken from him, Virat has shown the unwillingness to let go of his rage and decided that the "retribution" is the need of the day because the wife 'overturned' his directive and refused to adhere to rigid behavioural codes. But his sense of male entitlement allows him to throw her to the humiliation ring, where everyone is allowed to comment, insult and abuse his 'wife' while he can remind her and anyone standing up for her that she deserves it because she is badtameez and ziddi?

I don't mind the anger -- the fight is unresolved between the husband and wife. They will say mean things to one another before they reach the point where one will eventually break and want to end it. But the urge to punish in public -- to establish the superiority and declare the entitlement is toxic. There are a million productive, respectful ways to hash things out and it should go without saying that abuse -- physical or emotional -- is NOT OK. @ Bold, yes

Also, Virat should truly stop his double standard of 'mere aur Sai ke beech ki baat' when he's indulging his ego in the public display of humiliation of his wife just so that he can establish to the family that he indeed has the power over his wife. No matter how wild she is, he's the one who can tame her and he is willing to do whatever it takes to domesticate her. Today, I regret to say, Virat seemed willing to go to any length to drive his point home -- that he is the one running the relationship between them. And 'beech ki baat' reminders issued only to those trying to show him the mirror -- not to anyone who joins in to add to the humiliation.

Least chastising of all is for his 'pavitra dost' whose contempt for Sai doesn’t capture even half the degradation she feels at the prospect of being denied the right to spend time or be emotionally intimate with him, who has just clarified himself that he is uninterested in having romantic relationship. But then, he does definitely give her the right that should ideally be his wife's -- to speak to his face whatever she wants and get away with it, fully aware that she can repeat her act without fearing a single reaction from him.

"Apne Josh me aakar aisa kuch mat Karo Jo tumhe baad me pachtaava Hoga" or a similar advice from Venom-wali Vahini was heard -- most intently by Sai. It was said in sarcasm as a taunt... But it holds true. Nice one by Despokhi

The justification for his anger before she left from the house -- which stemmed really from his protectiveness more than his jealousy or insecurity, even when it had spiralled into his ego and his need to control her -- stands washed away by the way he has shown his place as the 'master of the castle'. If being denied food was not humiliating enough, being reminded about the dependency and the money she is carrying in her purse was even ten rungs lower in that ditch.

What a moment that was -- returning the principle amount of the 'loan' which she had promised to repay with interest without negotiation because "aapse kya mol bhaav karna". Kya kiya, Virat? Just what!

"Ye ghar hai hotel Nahi"... Arrey, but hotels have fixed kitchen timings. Homes don't. So, ACP Chavan, your mansion is not a home or even a hotel, it is a jail where each one of your toxic family members wants to be the jailor.

The entire exchange -- their eyes fixed on each other. What kind of torture infliction is that? It's like invisibly slashing your wrist with a blade and bleeding on each other -- incidentally, even her hand that he held in his moment of stupor to stop her was the same hand she has slit to depart to a place where he would have never been able to get her back from -- complete disconnection -- the thing that drives him mad but also the think thing that he's unable to address... @bold, both hurt to the core and expressed it so beautifully, can sense they are going to a unreturanable zone, but couldnt stop themselves. When she gave the money back, they was regret in Virat's eyes..what I wanted to do and what have I done. For Sai, I never wanted myself to be in this state and you out of all the people calling it out, that am dependent on your money ...unacceptable.

Deep inside, his conscience will wake up the moment he realises he's not only going to lose his 'entitlement' but also the 'wife' he had begun to love but at the moment, at the darkest that it is, a simple apology will definitely not be enough for the redemption. Alas! Afraid it might be a little bit a little too late...

But a hurt man can be a handful – but a hurt man inspired by the conviction that he’s owed something can be dangerous. Isn't this attitude stemming from the assumption that Virat, as a husband, is owed something by the 'wife' that Sai is? What is he expecting in return for his "kindness in zimmedari"? Love and devotion to buttress his sense of entitlement or just plain submission from the 'wife'?

So, what has Virat done to earn it from his wife? If this is indeed a "zimmedari", then it is only kindness. And kindnesses can only be returned with gratitude. Sai definitely has gratitude towards him but to expect emotions of love one has to give love, seek love and acknowledge and make it known that it is being sought. Also, a wife is as much an autonomous humans as the husband. Sai has the right to give as much or as little of herself to him as she wants -- especially when he has refused to give his entire self to her right in the beginning. It goes without saying no one apart from the woman can decide who “deserves” to receive what from a woman, not even the husband.

Obviously, Sai's soul force fellows will rise tomorrow strongly behind her. They will chastise the serpent that has taken over Virat's mind and he Virat will be shown the mirror. Will he be able to identify with the ugliest reflection of himself in it? I really want to see Sai packing her bags, getting that scholarship and respectfully returning his money to him because only one person has the right to waste his hard earned money for her whims -- his 'best friend', who called off a trip after all the investment was made.

Today my blood is at boiling point with the entire Chakram gang -- right from Karishma to Kaku and the douchebags Ninad and Omkar in between but the venomous snake that Patralekha is, she's in revelation mode -- from raising questions on her character to desperately provoking her to react, she has really fallen beyond the last rung of redemption she could have stepped on... It was her absolute contempt for Sai is not for the person Sai is but for a woman who she knows is the "desire" of the man who she actually desires herself. Bhavani's knowing nods when she sees PP pulling Sai back from leaving the tamasha ring and her jibes have been registered in the record of those actions that need to be condemned not only verbally but with one tight slap across the face. I really wish to see Sai doing it someday.

Of course, goes without saying that my heart went out to Sai and to Ashwini. Sai was largely silent and did not give into provocations from the usual suspects except for sending up for the respect to Ashwini and herself. What a heartbreak it must be for the 'wife' and the 'mother' of a man they both pride in -- would both of them be able to see him in the same light again. Ashwini, of course, is the mother and will forgive the son but will she forgive the son of her husband who's perhaps made her relive the helplessness that she was only beginning to overcome because of his very support? @bold. When he had done the ultimate sacrifice for his brother and for his guru, these are territories totally unknown. For once, he should know what it means when someone verbally hurts you or puts you down, which your wife was taking it from day 1, when there is no fault of hers.

He says, "Sai Kabhi Mera intezaar Nahi Karti"... Long ago, men went to sea, and women waited for them, standing on the edge of the water, scanning the horizon for the tiny ship. That's how she waits for him... He vanishes unwillingly, without warning, just as she begins to wait for him. Each moment that she waits feels like eternity. Each moment is as slow and transparent as glass. Through each moment there are infinite moments lined up to see, waiting for them to unite again. Why, then, has he gone where she cannot follow? (inspired from a quote).

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There will come a time in your life when you lose something that matters to you. You'll fight for it and you won't win. But what really matters isn't the war you're waging, it's that you don't lose the person you are in the midst of the battle.

The loss may seem like there's nothing more left to lose -- but it's not true. There's always something more left to lose and every time you step lower on the rung of the ladder leading to the dark hole, what you have lost becomes that much more distant to be redeemed....

Aaj coffee ☕☕☕ or tea 🍵🍵🍵 is a must to overcome the chilling wet wave that has just dashed the sand castle, which was being built by two hearts, even before they could compact the grains of the sand to make it resistant. Unfortunatel, the wave isn't from the sea they see ahead of them but from the storm brewing right between them that has just been stroked by fiendish eyes.

Saari kaliya murja gayi, Rang unke yaado me reh gaye.. Saare gharonde ret ke, Lehrein aayi lehro me beh gaye...

Can this sand castle be rebuilt on the same foundation?

Dil bhaari hai ... Am sure Aapka bhi Hoga. So hugs 🤗 and love 💕

Have a lovely day!

❤️J

Nice episode and beautiful analysis Janki. My heart went away to both today. However, I am not upset. My expectations were met, because this is how they are managing Virat as a person and his characterization is spot on, when someone instigates me, I will not think, but pounce on the victim.

Whatever is up with Pulkhit. Is he scared of CN that he wants Sai to drop his case?

amazing points!!

it is actually also fed to us since a young age, i've heard so many people say this 'itni sundar ho dusri ladkiyan toh jalti hongi' or you have to be the best girl in class, look at how well they are performing.

Sadly patriarchy is a deep maze, the more you try and get out the deeper you go inside..

The only way is to accept you are going wrong and think your way back out calmly.

When I see sai and pakhi, it makes so much sense, the line aurat hii aurat ki dushman hoti hai. it really applies to pakhi kyunki woh har time sai ko neecha dikhana chahti hai.

I’m not surprised to see Virat hitting another low today. It’s like they are butchering his character on purpose and making space of seperation. I think I will watch the seperation track and enjoy it more than this bc I really want Sai to just leave now. Your words make me feel Sai’s pain without even watching the episode, what a great job done!

Originally posted by: prs_725

I’m not surprised to see Virat hitting another low today. It’s like they are butchering his character on purpose and making space of seperation. I think I will watch the seperation track and enjoy it more than this bc I really want Sai to just leave now. Your words make me feel Sai’s pain without even watching the episode, what a great job done!

Butchering his character on purpose or is this how he actually his? Exploring various scenarios in that family presents various ways he acts on a situation.

Truth to be told, he never had the need in his life to make people understand or to fight. His liberty that people always looked upto him or listened to him had made him believe whatever he does will not be questioned upon.

(This kind of behaviour stems from childhood which is not Virat's fault. He was already celebrated as a topper. Keeping aside the fact that Virat does feel bad for Mohit at times, the constant praises Virat had during his entire span is enough to create an imbalance of judgement during certain times. Remember, there was a Virat-Samrat childhood scene where Virat pulled Samrat down from a game because he was losing or something. I do not remember exactly what happened. But Virat wanted to win over Samrat. Later, he knew he was at fault and felt bad).

Sai is throwing him off balance which comes as a shock to him and he is unable to register whatever good Sai tries to convey. His mind becomes clouded with only one fact ringing that Sai is not listening to him. Be it Sai being right or wrong. Virat has been praised throughout his life and it hard for him to accept that he can be called out for being wrong at times.

Originally posted by: CookiesNCream

Butchering his character on purpose or is this how he actually his? Exploring various scenarios in that family presents various ways he acts on a situation.

Truth to be told, he never had the need in his life to make people understand or to fight. His liberty that people always looked upto him or listened to him had made him believe whatever he does will not be questioned upon.

(This kind of behaviour stems from childhood which is not Virat's fault. He was already celebrated as a topper. Keeping aside the fact that Virat does feel bad for Mohit at times, the constant praises Virat had during his entire span is enough to create an imbalance of judgement during certain times. Remember, there was a Virat-Samrat childhood scene where Virat pulled Samrat down from a game because he was losing or something. I do not remember exactly what happened. But Virat wanted to win over Samrat. Later, he knew he was at fault and felt bad).

Sai is throwing him off balance which comes as a shock to him and he is unable to register whatever good Sai tries to convey. His mind becomes clouded with only one fact ringing that Sai is not listening to him. Be it Sai being right or wrong. Virat has been praised throughout his life and it hard for him to accept that he can be called out for being wrong at times.

You make a very valid point. However, in the beginning as well, Sai would not listen to him in everything but he knew how to handle those situations with grace and pyaar se samjhana.. recently it seems like his character has taken a completely new turn. Pal mein masha toh pal mein tola.. it could be that this is how he always was and because now he has started to like her, his this side is coming out. Prior to this, it was all formal. So we see a Virat in his personal life who is completely diff than professional. There are two versions of him. However, then was the version in the beginning of the relationship the wrong version? His character is extremely confusing to me so I can’t understand if all this is done for trp or they already had in mind that this is how his character is ..

Like Janki said, Virat is basically a good person. His nature is to slide past issues instead of confronting them. And he was too good to be true initially. Yet, he is not putting on an act, at least I don't think so. Having lived in such a toxic family, he must've imbibed some of the toxicity. There must be a conflict within him which has come out only after Sai entered his life. He has to deal with it. Today he was spewing venom literally. I do hope we get some kind of introspection. Not just Sai ko kaise samjhaoon.

BTW, kya samajhaana hai is the question in my mind.

I hated the episode today and hated Virat even more...Aisa lagta hai ki Virat ne itne dinon se mukhauta pahna hua tha and ab utar raha hai dhere dheere...jaise Pakhi ka maturity wala mukahuta utar raha hai Virat ke saamne....We have known him as a different person in professional and personal dealings...Sai se pehle he did not have to deal much with family...and if he was basically a nice person. would he not have seen his Aai's suffereings??? 28-29 years kam to nahi hote to know how your mother is treated...and on top of that u treat her as dirt too when need be...How can I look-up to such a character...If he would have had respect for Ashwani, I could have taken up his temporary shift in character...because of liking for Sai, change in his personal fronts etc etc...

What is the basis of telling that Virat is a good character??? Professionally chod kar...he is good IPS officer...But as a person he is definitely not a one I can look up to...What goodness has he shown till now?? supported Sai for her education?? That was the MAIN clause of the deal...he could not back out from that....

Give him a benefit of doubt in Amay and Aniket case...but what aboit Alta??? and this incident?? what's this behavious?? physical abuse? bhookha rakho??? mentally emotionally physically toture karo apni wife ko apni family and ex ke saath mil kar?? woh wife jisne tumhe kuch ghante pehle bataya hai ki woh akeli hai iss duniya mein???

He asks AAi, Shivani bua Usha Maushi to shut -up saying it is his and Sai's personal matter..usi waqt kaku, and baki C gang ko kyun nahi chup karwata....he looks like a MCP with a maukhata...

He has never supported Aai...that shows how good a character he is.....He may have been rude to Sai, it's ok..I could take it as some irrational behaviour...but for me, his dealing with Aai reflects his personality...I can't say he is a good person...

This topic and the posts under this topic are soo deeply thought provoking...loved how everyone has a different yet sensible pov to look into such sensitive matters of our society👏 All hail to the topic maker!! Janki, you are too good yarr🤗 you have an ability to change ones perspective of seeing through a particular thing....like me here...I haven't watched the last 3 episodes coz maybe I am kinda emotionally vulnerable to watch this kind of stuff due to the emotional attachment I have for certain characters in this show but I couldn't stop myself from visiting here to read yours and other such awesome posts👍🏼

So from whatever knowledge I have gained through reading reviews about these heart-wrenching episodes, I think the unknown feelings of SaiRat for each other are getting better of them(specially for Virat coz obviously as he is the sole creator of shackles in their marriage named zimmedari,deal,farz,vaada,etc) and the built up for this outbursts already began during the trip fiasco and its first ever outcome was their bedroom fight over the same issue...here agreeing with you, this unresolved fight had also its own contribution in fueling the fire inside them, thirdly it was the extremely toxic external interference of his equally toxic family in between their "neezi mamla" and lastly the "khoon" of Chavans running in his veins, the deadly combination of this factors led to the extremely hurting(both physically n mentally) and emotionally draining fight between them (here I will say its solely their fight as the others were just some spectators spewing their toxic comments at the tamasha being played in front of them except some good souls present there trying their best to diffuse the tense environment)

P.S. my review here is purely based upon whatever reviews I have read on these episodes here n there😛...plz let me know if I went wrong anywhere😊