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Interesting thought provoking post Sanjana

Interesting Discussions

For me any character that Maan and Geet holds in a story is acceptable
whether one of both of them are arrogant or rude or even a killer I just enjoy reading different stories that holds their different characters
yes I would comment if they playing with a person emotions but never pick on the actual character .

Actually I love all dark and shady stories , bold and adventurous too
the only time I really complain is when I read a FF that says Geet is innocent and innocence is acceptable by me but when the writer turns a innocent Geet into been someone stupid then that is not innocence
yes with innocence goes perhaps some humor and silly or unexplained questions and answers .
I've some time last year read an FF where a writer has turned the innocence into something so abnormal that
the entire story was a total flop and the writer too had just stopped in the middle of the story .

I have no problems with Geet been arrogant or rude or even a prostitute , for me every story holds a different character of both Maan and Geet and true if its only these two dating without having any other partners then every story would be the same monotonous pattern. so yeah side characters enhances the story and usually carve a path for both Maan and Geet .

When I start reading a story or every update I do press Like and comment also I'm always very late , but never leave the story midway .

Recently I've just read a story on revenge where Maan is full blown in his revenge and not even five updates later he has already a 360 degrees change while Geet been highly educated now has also turned into some comedian and this was only the start of the story many people started complaining but I thought maybe again after few more updates the story will go back on track but it then turn into a full blown romantic story and this was suppose be a revenge story so the writers also should be aware
that their stories flow whether they add twist into it which really brings in more spice into the story but going totally off the concept is not acceptable and true then those type of stories I do tend
to leave but after informing the writer and also apologizing that I cannot stay on to read their story

Another thing I'd like to say here! Ab jab baat chali hai toh door talak jayegi...

Below is my personal opinion and no offence meant to anyone!


I'm more of a reader here but have written few things 1 of them being a part in Ghsp family ss started by Tanya aka Jannat Fictions and you recently. I don't know if you have noticed or not but there is something which surprised me. Mostly good writers like Tanya or Aish or you now have suffered lack of response from readers . It is really sad to see such amazing writers getting comparitively less response for their finely written stories. I have seen there are few writers who even after having inarticulate writings and weaker concepts are getting superb response than the former ones. I don't understand what is the parameters of readers to like or appreciate a story. They shower their love on poor stories which are written in poor language ( No OFFENCE MEANT TO ANYONE! ).

For me as a reader the parameter to like a story is it's concept, it's presentation, language, and writer's own grip and command over the story. Many times it happens a story has a great start but it goes haywire, you just can't find the head and tail of it( Yes, Sanju I'm referring to recent disaster as well ).

As long as the writer knows wot she/he has to do it's fone but sometimes it happens otherwise. So, if I lose interest in something I leave it as I definitely can't be untrue in my comment and I'm afraid my truthfulness might hurt writers so it's better to move on!

You see in IF unknowingly a category has formed of writers and readers. Some are exceptionally talented writers and some are not so good in the job but both have their readers, but sadly later ones get more appreciation and it can be seen in the Ghsp family ss. I just don't know why is that so! Is it that people want tooti footi language and typical indian tv dramas here?

I'm not being categoric here but it's a fact. Take Tanya's The Undeniable or The Inevitable, these 2 ffs are amazing and among the most brilliant concepts on MG over here but the response is low. At the same time there are a few ffs (I'm not taking name) which are poorly written with not so appealing concept but they are getting high appreciation. So it is extremely confusing what kind of work do readers want.

Now, coming to the matter of supporting characters. I'd not call them side characters since they aren't kept on side but they introduced to move the story further. They provide the momentum to the story. In Kuch Kuch Hota Hai or Dil Toh Pagal Hai or Border the characters played by Salman , Karishma or Suniel Shetty respectively weren't side but the 2nd lead roles ir supporting roles. Without them can these movies be imagined? No , they can't be! And let's take a most recent example. Can we imagine Tanu weds Manu without the character of PAPPI BHAIYA ?? Answer is a big NO ! Same way in ff or ss supporting cast is essential.

Lately, I've started reading a ff by sameera_12 " Badmaash Dill ". It is 1 of the finest ff over Geet forum. Her writing is not just articulate but very much reader friendly. The way she had been writing it's fantastic. The ff has almost a Suraj Barjatya style cast but the writer has such a strong grip that she's managing each and every character superbly! Initially, I complained to her that there isn't much of Maaneet but she said trust me you will like the story. And I just trusted her without any ifs and buts and I'm glad I did that.

Even though she's writing amazingly well but the response she's getting is disappointing. She has been writing same ff in Arsh version and there she's getting much more appreciation. So , the thing is it is a 2-way road not 1-way. Both readers and writers here have to communicate with each other to keep it going!

interesting post! will comment later!

Right just after commenting on this I felt somewhere some readers may be active or silent will understand bt nope they will never coz here's another so called silent reader targeted my character just coz I did not update 1 of my ff for 20days when I actually update almost daily 1 or the other story.. this is wat we writers get.. bash n use rude words if we update n even if we dont update but anyways I'm quitting forum now.. n its all decided n hope readers understand n realize why writers leave the forum.

Originally posted by: BrainEaterOwl

@Jannat-Fictions


Tanya you have restricted your post to get quoted?? I am unable to quote you so replying this way.

I so agree with everything you said in your post. And I loved how you explained how your first creation on Geet Forum got you the recognition when it had a black shaded Maan but you were pulled down when you tried to give a Geet who is carefree, badass, bold and simply lives on her own terms.

I know the topic is fiction so obviously whatever one write is simply her imagination and creativity. And I don't have problems with dark genre. I have read many stories where Maan is a complete black character. But what I love is when he is also shown getting his due punishment, or simply repents and redeem himself from it. If that track is done perfectly just like how one do with Geet's pain and sorrow and justice is given to Geet's character when she is literally shown depressed, broken beyond repair then I will love the story more. However, it is very rare that Maan has really redeem himself in such stories where he is a protagonist as well antagonist. In fact, he just has to shed tears and readers heart melts, but Geet dont recieve the same treatment even here when she is the one who has suffered. So obviously, I am left disappointed at the end cos I do end up crying buckets for Geet. And when I see him getting Geet without much efforts I lose interest in the story as well don't feel like shipping MG anymore since I start feeling Maan is undeserving and that is completely my perception. There have been so so many similar experience with that type of Maan that I am apprehensive now to read new stories where he is a grey shade character or a Playboy. That fear has set in deep that I will be disappointed again and so whenever I step into this forum to try a new story and see in CS or prologue that he is a Casanova, I don't continue the story. I know I am being unfair since I dont even give a chance to the story or the writer but I genuinely can't help it. In past 2 years, every second story that I have read had Maan as either Playboy, divorcee, having kids whereas there is hardly any change in Geet's character. She is still the same damsel is distress, weak, dependent girl who even fears to stand for her ownself. Since I am a total egoist girl I obviously love a strong woman character than reading a Geet who cries at the drop of the hat. So when someone gives a total out of box Geet, I simply end up falling for that story. But otherwise, I keep an open mind to both Maan n Geet having affairs or going out enjoying their life being total carefree. I dont mind it all. No better than you would know that to what extent I am an open mind girl. I have shipped Maan-Pari in CU. I love MG just as much as everyone else does, but I end up loving them with others if I feel they love each other. My comments in your stories must have given you the idea about how I am as a person.

Yes, I agree, I hate rapists to the core and when I ended up reading Maan as one, I was shocked. But I still continued reading the story hoping that maybe he will be punished cos that is what I have seen happening for Dev, Arjun, Rahul, etc character. But of course, since he was the protagonist, he ended up getting Geet and also her "selfless" love. Since that one experience, I have never read a rapist Maan ever. I have been lucky enough that when I stumbled upon rapist Maan again that have been told on the first chapter or prologue only. So I was saved from feeling repulsed and be disturbed.

And why Geet is labelled with all those colorful names is something I truly want to know. 60% of stories on this forum has Maan as a Philander and stories have got good responses but the moment Geet is shown bold enough doing the same thing, she has been called characterless. No reader point finger at Maan's character when he is sleeping around but Geet is dragged through dirt for the same. And that is something I find totally unfair. However, I do know, to each his own. Every people have different perspective and I should respect that. My only request is only that dont pull other writers who give something different to Geet's character. If one can't keep open mind towards Geet then they should refrain from reading those stories rather than bashing the writer. Character bashing is still okay, but writers bashing is disgusting.

About 21st century, I actually loved that point Tanya. I really find it very hard to believe that a girl could be so innocent and naive out there. Maybe there are few, but that is changing. No modern girl in real life waits for the guy to return back to her when he leaves her, humiliate her, cheats on her. They divorce and move on. Single or most of the times falling in love again. Especially todays girl. They have learnt to be egoist and most importantly to respect themselves.

I absolutely agree about stories shifting to blog too. If a story is going to get appreciated out of this forum then be it. It's forum's loss and not the writer's.

Thank you for taking out time and commenting. Really appreciate a lot.

-Sanjana!

Originally posted by: BrainEaterOwl

Hello. Thanks for dropping in.

I am reading Badmaash Dill and it is indeed one of the best written stories which has so so many characters. MG hardly gets a scene in a whole update but still you won't miss them cos side character's life is as intriguing as of MG. So I really love to read that one story and comment on it.

Coming to the rest of the comment, I dont think a writer has ever refrained a reader from expressing their honest views. Take Tanya aka Jannat-Fictions for example, I am sure you came across my comments on her stories. And she is the only writer along with Ash with whom I am free. I have bashed her characters left right center and she is in fact okay with it. She has never taken my comments on heart and I know I even go overboard on her threads. But it's with her I am so free and she truly doesnt mind it as well. On other writer's threads I try to be in control and dont write stuff getting over enthusiastic.

But it is totally different when a reader calls name to one character and is lenient on the other when he is doing the same. So my question is have people ever called Maan as man wh**e like they do to Geet? Calling someone wh**e is too harsh of a word I feel and it doesn't come under civilized way of expressing. It means one is directly attacking on girl's character which is judgmental IMO. I bash characters as well but name calling is something I guess no writer would want read.

-Sanjana!

I have no problems calling Maan a man wh**e where he is one so to me a writer should not get offended when Geet is called such. God forbid if the writer herself is being called names I would see that as a problem but writer having a problem with Geet being criticized????I am sorry but I won't agree. Also character being abused isn't equivalent to writer being bashed nor does that mean that readers aren't liking the story...I have read all of Tanya's stories n I have loved them...I may not like some characters but haven't bashed her ever coz why would anyone bash her even if they don't like the story so for me it's different. I hope we all agree to disagree :-)

Originally posted by: Kawan

hello
i agree to what u said..
people are actually obsessed with geet being a virgin...
means if maan rape geet in the story its kk.
few will hate maan...
but if geet left maan like u said they will start abusing her..
and want writer to punish geet..

I believe in equality...
if geet is wrong then maan is also wrong...
and we should understand both pov..
instead of bashing anyone try to see why they are such
like u mentioned geet leaving maan behind and maan still love her..
of course their was the reason why she left..
due to her past..
so before knowing anything a try and understand what writer wants to say..

and of course silent reader..
I have just commented on one writer thread..
taking out time from their busy schedule and update still they don't even bother...
if writer is sick and or is not able to update they demand for update and when they get it they bother to comment...
and I being a reader to so fedup with such people...
they don't even care about the writer feeling..
if writer gives password protected update they start to abuse them..
telling them as a bad writer..
so one request for the silent readers if don't bother to comment them u don't even have a right to abuse them..
they are writing the stories for us not for themselves...

Thank you for posting your views. Really appreciate it.

My only intention of making this thread is, I just want people to allow the writers to take the liberty with Geet's character as well. Bashing the writers on personal level is wrong.

Hoping readers do open their mind towards female lead. It will help the writer get some peace.

-Sanjana!

Originally posted by: Neeju

i really appreciate your post... this is something that every writers want to ask readers... i agree that almost every reader want geet to be innocent angel and they literally enjoy Casanova maan.. i have see in ff that even for hisCasanovaimage they blame either geet or other female character. i say that it can make writer feel like that he/she has not developed the character well to make people understand... later they come to know that reader r willing to accept that maan has done something wrong...

i feel like every story should be different and to make it different writers need sub plots and characters and they cannot always come up with the same character of innocent geet and arrogant maan.

i have one more problem readers are not ready to accept geet leaving maan at end they want them together...i have writer 2 os where they do not become one even after giving strong reason they want geet maan together and then i have to present more parts to make this happen... they should leave it to writer how they want to end story... there are many famous film in which main character remain alone like ranjaana and aashiqui 2 but in Os or ff they are not ready to accept ..

So you have been forced to change your creation? This is getting sad. Till now I assumed only those who give bold Geet are facing things but now I am seeing it's a case with many people out there.

I am a die hard MG shipper as well. But when it comes to stories I always keep an open mind and in fact enjoy seeing them dating or in love with other characters as well. Hell, even in our Show GHSP the CVS weren't so obsessed with them. Geet was shown married to Dev carrying his baby and Maan was shown in love with Sameera.

There have been so many amazing piece of writing where MG have a tragic ending and such stories leaves deeper impact than the same old romance. It's nowhere written that MG has to end up together. Few stories demand the concept of "they are NOT meant to be"

I really don't get why few readers can't accept a story just as a writer's vision and give them the freedom to give something unique.

-Sanjana!

Originally posted by: ChocBrownies

Awesome thread Sanjana👏

I appreciate you for making this post. I totally agree with what u said. Especially in the second post I agree totally from 4 th point😆. I have already discussed this issue with u. Most of the writers and readers are ready to accept a flawed Mann who is a play boy sleeping around with random s**ts. But unfortunately this consideration vanishes when comes to Geet. I must say Geet's VIRGINITY is over rated. Every one even the writers wants Geet to be a virgin naive girl waiting for Mann to take her!! This idea shocks me. If Mann can fall in love or say sleep with another women then why can't Geet do the same. I m hell tired of seeing Mann with Sameera, kimeera , linda kinda blah blah... And poor Geet is waiting for her prince charming for ever.

The show was different in that case (GHSP)atleast Dev took her virginity before Mann😆. But show wala Mann was a much better guy. You know what I cried my heart out reading.a story in whicch Mann and Geet are very happily married and after 10 yrs Mann cheats on her 4 times and he didn't had a reason for his infidelity. I cried because they united. I desperately wanted them to divorce. But may be due to fans pressure writer change her actual story and unite the couple. Which broke my heart. I am mentioning it because I still re read the story sometimes. And there are a lo of other stories like that. I am asking if Geet did cheat on Mann behind his back the is that acceptable? ?

Leave that. . I agree with u about the comment part. I try to write a cimment for almost everything I read. But I am yet to read thores of love because of lack of time. I am quite busy these days. Will catch it later and comment for each chapters. I couldn't stop mysef from posting this comment because this is something which haunted my mind for a few months..

Once again thanks for this discussion thread

Hello there. Thank you posting your views. Since our views completely matches I wont talk about it much as I have already done that in other replies.

Our show CVs were probably too open minded with our female lead. I did hated Dev character till the end though. Hated how Geet forgave him and in fact got her sister married to him. CVs ruined GHSP since the miscarriage and it just continued to go down the drain. They in fact made Maan a love sick puppy from an arrogant egoist businessman in Amritsar track. Who leaves all business and becomes a driver? But then when I read stories and see how he is a jerk in every ff and there is no proper redemption track for him, I end up falling for The MSK of GHSP all the more. Cos then I realize that the CVs actually gave him a harsh punishment for saying Geet's "khoon is safed". That humiliation of Geet cost him a lot. Come to think of it even Dev didn't repent like Maan did. So I if they ruined GHSP' main concept they did gave a good message too. And ironically, it was for the protagonist than the antagonist.

And we have completely opposite of it in forum. Here Maan goes scot free for worst of the sins and ends up getting Geet's selfless love.

About TOL, no problem.

-Sanjana!