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Posted: 16 years ago
#31
I think the mods in the FF section are doing a great job. I have not yet run into trouble with the mods here, and I genuinely feel that FF section is one of the rare sections of IF whose mods actually rock.
As far as barring the explicit/graphic material is concerned, I think I understand where the concern stems from. IF is largely a family forum and people from all age groups visit this site, so that way I think certain precautious measures have to be taken.
But the FFs that demand certain scenes ( sex/violence ) can be regulated in a way that the minors are kept out and we do not have to completely do away with descriptions of intimate/violent scenes. I think there is already a limit to which a writer can delve into descriptions, right ? ( I'm not sure ) Besides that, I was going through the 'Adult content on IF' thread the other day and saw a great suggestion made by someone - We should let the writers decide the rating of the overall FF. Eg - Name of story, Updt pg 45, Rated - PG-13, or something like that.
Or we can have another thing done - If the FF has adult material, then whenever someone clicks on the thread, a window can pop up saying, "This story has material suited for people above 18. Are you sure you want to enter?"
These are simply suggestions though :)
Lastly, I think you guys are doing a great job :) One thing that I absolutely like in the FF section is an aspect of 'fairness' - Keep it up :D
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Posted: 16 years ago
#32
also one of my friends is leaving the forum because you just prohibited her fic and its not accesible...the words which you wrote made her cry.....i won't take her name here....as she won't like it.......i think that you can be polite and give her a chance before giving her a red mark...

sorry if i was a bit rude
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Posted: 16 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: ksglover1

well...i guess the moderators are doing a fab job

my only question is that i have a 40% warning level....and i don't know how???....i mean i know why it was 20% ...it was when i posted a bashing post ...but why 40% now...
i think the moderators should atleast pm us before raising the warning level.....so that we atleast know whats our fault



Your warning level was not raised by any of the moderators from this section, but in fact, both warnings were from StarOne...
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Posted: 16 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: ksglover1

also one of my friends is leaving the forum because you just prohibited her fic and its not accesible...the words which you wrote made her cry.....i won't take her name here....as she won't like it.......i think that you can be polite and give her a chance before giving her a red mark...

sorry if i was a bit rude



Everyone gets a second chance, but when it gets to explicit content and plagiarism, we cannot take any chances and leave it open, as has been argued in the pages before.

There have been several warnings about such content in the past, and it's also a part of the rules of this section, and the Code of Conduct of the forum itself.

When members joined the forum, they were agreeing to abide by the COC, they should be familiar with what it states.

As for your friend, whoever they may be, they are given a chance, a chance to start afresh and remove the content, and it's up to them if they take it up or not.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#35
So this thread is entitled to our opinions about the mods, and you guy's are willing to listen to our complaints.
Will be back later...
reserved**!😃
Edited by SaziArmaan - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: SaziArmaan

So this thread is entitled to our opinions about the mods, and you guy's are willing to listen to our complaints.

Will be back later...
reserved**!😃



That's what we said...

Waiting.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#37
So this thread is entitled to our opinions about the mods, and you guy's are willing to listen to our complaints.
Will be back later...
reserved**!😃
okay so back!

So my first complaint is if this thread is helpful. I mean are mods even permitted to change the rules around here? Here we are complaining about many situations, and all you guys are saying is that it's in the IF conduct rule. Many of the problems around here does have to do with conduct, and most of our complaints are also based on this. So is this thread really necessary?

2nd matter- I know you guys have been getting many issues that have to do with Adult Contents. Lately I have noticed, many of the fan fictions that have such contents are being closed, is this really fair. I know you guys are trying to promote IF as a family oriented website, but that's no reason to shut down fan fictions. Doesn't reading ff's depend of the readers comfort level. I mean if there's a big disclaimer saying that this fan fiction consists of adult contents, shouldn't the readers just avoid it. IF can't stop people from reading such contents. If readers are willing to read such things, shouldn't writers be allowed to write such things? There maybe others who object adult contents, but isn't it usually the majority over the minority.

sorry if I'm being rude, but everyone's entitled to their opinions right?

SAZ!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: SaziArmaan

Edited by Dark Love - 16 years ago

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Posted: 16 years ago
#39
Well...as far as the matter of posting adult content is concerned, as it is the only topic that's miffed people off against the mods, then i'd just say...theres always a way of going around things. If you post some kind of adult content, that means you guys think you have a reading 'majority' who'd like to read that stuff. And sure enough, you do get in a lot of good feedback, usually by the people who follow your fics ardently. Of course, that;s natural. But that doesn't mean whatever you are writing is correct according to the COC set by the makers of IF.
The purpose of having a family oriented forum means ANYONE of any age can register and read anything thats posted here. So, the mods have to keep that in mind when they stumble on to some adult content, because surely, none of us, no matter HOW open minded we mean ourselves to be, would like a child of 9 or 10 reading explicit scenes. Just take it in the way; how would u react if you see a kid of that age reading a novel which is known for the smut in it? It doesnt matter about the warning that;s posted, that just eggs on the little kid even more, to see whats written there that below 18 can not read.
I read a conversation in a thread after the closing of the fics with adult content which left me amazed at the credibility of what people can actually think. Justifying a thing you KNOW is not allowed is something i can not understand...and then claiming that there was 'nothing in the fics kids dont know about...we are educated about it too.; Um sure no one has taught you about the said topic SO explicitly, anywhere. What i dont understand is, WHY??? There are some fics that NEED the scene, not explicit, but the reference to a *** scene...such as krati's Set Ablaze. I have never found a fic so CLEAN when all it deals with is 'affairs, *** and scandals.: Why cant u guys do that? Why does a need of a sudden scene out of the blue arise? I dont know.
Um sorry if um crossing the line here...but um generally very miffed at people who fail to see their mistake and apologized just for getting their topics opened again. And yeah, everytime i have come across any such thing, its been my fault that i didnt report it. Being a member of IF and knowing the rules, i should have...but as NJ said, i generally seemed to ignore it...so next time, um keeping it in mind to report asap.
Mods, you guys are doing a great job :)...and i guess i spoke a little too much...no offence was meant, just wanted to give my pov. What i wanted to know was...can the reader's warning thing actually be done? And I would suggest there is simply one way of going around it...First time give a warning, second time post on the fic itself that no more adult content and the ones present need to be erased....and the third time, just close the topic...without reopening it. Seriously. It has no effect on people, no matter how many times they are warned. Moreover, what is the guarantee that the same fic does not have adult content posted again? Do you guys do a follow up on it?
Kiran
Edited by Pebblez - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#40

So my first complaint is if this thread is helpful. This isn't really the help desk, but okay... No this is really helpful, now that I'm getting answers to some of my questions.😃

I mean are mods even permitted to change the rules around here? Depends on what exactly you're talking about? Okay, but what matters can you guys change around here?

Here we are complaining about many situations, and all you guys are saying is that it's in the IF conduct rule. Hold on a second, the only situation that the complaints have been for are the adult content, and the warnings. Few rather than many, and if all the complaints are going to be of the same matter, of course the replies will get repetitive, if something's against the I-F COC, we aren't allowing it, period. If you've got anything against that, you can use the Suggestions/Comments forum or contact the admins. This thread's for the FF section rules, not for the COC. Maybe Adult Content is the only serious situation around here, otherwise the ff section is peaceful, which I thank you guys for.😃

Many of the problems around here does have to do with conduct, and most of our complaints are also based on this. So is this thread really necessary? Of course the thread is still necessary! Like I said, and has been stated earlier, it's for giving feedback to the moderators of this section on how we've been handling situations, etc..

And it seemed as if most of the complaints have been on our handling, and not on the COC. A lot of people are against adult content... They are indeed against Adult Content, because many want a change in rules for this matter.

2nd matter- I know you guys have been getting many issues that have to do with Adult Contents. Lately I have noticed, many of the fan fictions that have such contents are being closed, is this really fair. I know you guys are trying to promote IF as a family oriented website, but that's no reason to shut down fan fictions. Despite all the rules, all the warning stickies, the COC, adult content still continues. If we don't close these threads, what's the guarantee it won't continue? We can't let them open unless we've received that guarantee from the writers, and the best way to catch their attention is to close the FF's. Most people tend to ignore our warning PM's...but this is one thing you can't ignore. Well closing their FF's, will it stop them for writing more fan fictions that contain adult materials? What's the guarantee that they won't just start a new one with such contents, because they feel that the rules have been unfair. If readers don't object in reading such contents, is it necessary to close the FF? And even if some readers are against adult contents, shouldn't they just ignore the ff. I mean they are given a choice, they aren't forced to read a persons ff.

Doesn't reading ff's depend of the readers comfort level. I mean if there's a big disclaimer saying that this fan fiction consists of adult contents, shouldn't the readers just avoid it. They should, but that doesn't mean they would. Wait, why wouldn't they? If they are uncomfortable, why would they just avoid the disclaimer, and keep reading? Then isn't that just the readers fault, for reading such things that is uncomfortable to them?

IF can't stop people from reading such contents. But we can stop people from posting such content. If adult content's really what's keeping people on I-F, then everyone knows they can also find it on several other sites on the internet... If readers are willing to read such things, shouldn't writers be allowed to write such things? But you just said you understood we were promoting I-F as a family-oriented site, how is allowing writers to post such content gonna help that image?! There maybe others who object adult contents, but isn't it usually the majority over the minority. Okay, since you're bringing majority over minority in this...if the majority of the members decided an actor should be bashed...should the moderators go on and agree with them, without worrying about the minority that consists of ardent fans of the actor?

That's a complete different matter from this situation. There are so many other ff's in this section, which have adult contents in them, in fact majority of the ff's do. Depend on what the majority of the people think, if they think Adult content should be confiscated, than you guy's are doing a fabulous job in closing the thread.

Whether or not the majority of the people, but there are many who don't mind adult contents. And you're the one who said, minority shouldn't be ignored. So should the writers, and readers, who don't mind adult contents be ignored. And is it fair to close their ff's?

sorry if I'm being rude, but everyone's entitled to their opinions right? Never said they weren't... That's what I thank you guys for, allowing us to speak our minds. 😃

Luv SAZ!

Edited by SaziArmaan - 16 years ago

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