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Posted: 10 years ago
#51
We have had enough discussions on it and I will only say that blaming anyone else for crime committed by a full grown man, legally an adult and someone who has all facilities in life is wrong.
The onus lies on the criminal only.

Any rapist can yelp in court that he is not to blame, his parent was to blame or the society was to blame etc. But that makes no sense.

I wouldn't even buy it if Sakshi herself narrated her childhood and poverty etcand blamed others in the court of law.

Such rubbish is not discussed in court hearing. It is part of subsidiary discussions outside the court.

The court never hears this nonsense or considers it legit. So showing all this in a trial is rubbish.

Rajnath sent goons to kill Nitya, he got lawyer to lose case and killed him, he laughed with Shaurya over girls and never taught him either to respect a woman, he never stopped Sakshi or Shaurya from using his name and money in any way, never put his foot down. For Durga also he just asked son to do anything as long as it did not affect his business. He fought with Sakshi why she did not let Shaurya complete his bet and lectured how important Shaurya's bets were to him.He is an equal party in a train wreck he and his family were. But he was blameless in the show and if he is blameless in eyes of fans then so be it.

Enough of lopsided portrayals, blunders, loopholes, illogical things were shown. Already been discussed so no use discussing now. It's over and out now.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: anu rulz


well if a show wins accolades for a crisp screenplay and good research, then it shud be able to handle brickbats too for a rushed ending and a million loopholes..unnecessary scenes killed the screentime and essential tracks were crammed together and finished within minutes..as a consumer, i or any other member am entitled to complain if a show i enjoyed was ruined due to poor writing..being attached is evident by the time taken to constructively criticise the show...coz we had high expectations from the show..simply gushing over a show does not show attachment..


I agree with you anu_rulz i didn't post a single word of praise in EHT farewell thread bcoz of the last few weeks episodes..but that doesn't mean that i wasn't attached to the show.
The topic was very serious but they failed to handle it properly.
They have ended it in a Ramgopal verma's horror movie style by adding that whistle tune of shaurya..they completely forgot that this show was all about justice to a rape victim.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#53
@atominis I will repeat the line of deby.bh
Ooo writer tu pyaar bhare nagme likh mere bhai.. 😆
Edited by Perfect100 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#54
i also think that the ending was an abrupt one and needed a proper closure.
its not fair when one watches the show and then get this type of end.
there were many loopholes also and loose ends which never got connected.
all in all i think they just wanted to wrap up the show in given time and time was not enough. just my opinion.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#55
I really don't blame CV's for this..It is only Star Plus who are responsible...
Many people are saying CV's are showing women in bad light..I don't agree with it..
This show portrayed women as strong..For eg the Durga and Sakshi are shown as very strong , intelligent women and not as dumb as other TV's show's lead actresses...
I actually liked the show because of this reason ..I know there were some things which CV's needed to consider. But we all know the reason behind it. If they had atleast a month time more I would say they would have definitely would have done best...
I am not disappointed and am happy I watched this show from beginning..Whomever I know who watched show everyone liked it...and are sad it ended...
I would like to request to end the discussion on the bloopers here and close it on a positive note.
I know everyone has their own opinions ..but I am requesting...
Anu has done a great job on preparing the group card. I too signed and I am glad EHT team responded to it...😛
I will really miss this forum, reading and discussing about the episodes of EHT...
Edited by charu_81 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: atominis

@HippoSucks

I never had sky high expectations. But didn't expect this much blunder either.

Sorry but suspension of disbelief is permissible only to some extent. Not these bhoot dramas or 3 cases in one hearing in one day, bank locker nonsense etc. The blunders were too much even for a soap!

It is a shame for a serial which is supposed to be based on a serious issue!

We tolerated lot of bloopers earlier. But still kept plugging in. Only to see an even worse end? Nope. Disappointment is a given.

The team has to be equally blamed as it was killing time earlier also in July-August than show to the point stuff. They didn't just mess up in last few weeks.

Being in this field they had no idea and were not prepared for uncertainties? No back up plan?

If you get 2 month notice then you do this? They surely don't know how to work under pressure then. The bloopers were too obvious. One didn't even need to emphasise them!

Say what you will but it takes both hands to clap. I will blame both team and channel. As a viewer and as a consumer I have every right to do so. And also ponder if attachment to the show was worth it or not.

The end is crucial in determining how one assesses the whole journey. All's well that "ends well", that is the adage. And here the end was not well.

We have shown appreciation for team through other threads. We can express our criticism too.

You keep judging our posts in quality or quantity or question our attachment as you wish. But it is only us as individuals who know how much attached or not, we were. And we don't need to prove that to anybody.

There are countless threads on Star Plus as a channel, criticising them. This thread title also mentions channel first. So why are you getting so defensive for the team?

What's done is done. It's over now. Our comments are not going to change anything. The team already thinks they made a masterpiece and are faultless, so why are you bothered over comments?


You have to look at everything relatively. I have had the displeasure of watching numerous television shows and movies and the majority of them had numerous more loop holes than Ek Hasina Thi.

The suspension of belief concept must apply to all fictional shows and stories. I don't mean watching the show while not using your brain at all, but you should not examine each event in the show with extensive scrutiny.

Please note that 3 cases were not dealt with in one hearing. The Sakshi and Rajnath cases were scheduled to be dealt with at a later date. The only case discussed was the Payal rape case, which resulted in 3 people being at the receiving end of the judgement (specifically Shaurya, Karan and Rishi). As for the bank locker, I see nothing wrong with it.

I think you are overstating the amount of blunders. Unanswered questions are not counted, especially considering that the team was not at fault for it (when you have, let's say, 2 months to finish the show with a very long plot, it is expected that some things will remain undealt (which actually is a word) with.

You can't blame them for not using all the time they had during July because they likely didn't know the show was ending in December.

They can't be expected to have a back up plan for such an unimaginable situation i.e. Star Plus removing a fairly popular show so suddenly.

I certainly would like those aforementioned blunders to be emphasized, because I can't identify any major ones counting beyond the single digits.

The "it takes two hands to clap" idiom is irrelevant here. Just because of that saying, will you always blame everyone in a situation, disregarding whether they are at fault or not? I certainly hope not.

The "all's well that ends well" idiom is irrelevant here as well. That is applied to the events that occurred in the show, not the execution. The ending was fitting as it resolved the main issues of the show. It being rushed, executed badly etc is a different matter and doesn't affect the show as a whole.

I've never judged you or anyone on here entirely based on their posts, but nonetheless I don't see how that is relevant in this discussion. My simple point was that if you were so attached to the show, spent countless hours posting here etc, you shouldn't be so distressed and undermine completely the reputation of the show simply due to the ending.

I'm not being defensive regarding the team, but I dislike blaming someone for things they had no control over.

Our discussions never affected any decision made by the team, so I wouldn't expect anything now either. Nonetheless, this is still a discussion forum and discussions will be carried out just for the sake of sharing opinions.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis

We have had enough discussions on it and I will only say that blaming anyone else for crime committed by a full grown man, legally an adult and someone who has all facilities in life is wrong.

The onus lies on the criminal only.

Any rapist can yelp in court that he is not to blame, his parent was to blame or the society was to blame etc. But that makes no sense.

I wouldn't even buy it if Sakshi herself narrated her childhood and poverty etcand blamed others in the court of law.

Such rubbish is not discussed in court hearing. It is part of subsidiary discussions outside the court.

The court never hears this nonsense or considers it legit. So showing all this in a trial is rubbish.

Rajnath sent goons to kill Nitya, he got lawyer to lose case and killed him, he laughed with Shaurya over girls and never taught him either to respect a woman, he never stopped Sakshi or Shaurya from using his name and money in any way, never put his foot down. For Durga also he just asked son to do anything as long as it did not affect his business. He fought with Sakshi why she did not let Shaurya complete his bet and lectured how important Shaurya's bets were to him.He is an equal party in a train wreck he and his family were. But he was blameless in the show and if he is blameless in eyes of fans then so be it.

Enough of lopsided portrayals, blunders, loopholes, illogical things were shown. Already been discussed so no use discussing now. It's over and out now.


What are you talking about? It is obvious that if someone is convicted with such a harsh punishment, they will try to put the blame on others in an effort to be shown mercy. We know what he did was wrong, but him raping a women was also wrong. Him murdering people was also wrong. Should we blame the development team for Shaurya's actions now?

Such things are discussed in a trial. Shaurya and the judge won't select a time to talk with each other privately to discuss such matters. You would expect Shaurya to say this abruptly. Of course, the judge wouldn't consider this in his decision, but it would be said by Shaurya nonetheless.

Showing this in a trial was a very good move by the development team. They managed to show how relationships based on profit are broken very easily, which was one of the main moral values of the show.

Shaurya blaming Sakshi was perfectly justified. Sakshi aided and encouraged Shaurya in his misdeeds much more than Rajnath, and that is not arguable. Rajnath could not stop Sakshi or Shaurya because of him being blackmailed. I am not saying Rajnath was not as bad as the other two, but he supported Shaurya much less.

He was not blameless because I am sure he received his fair share of punishment in another hearing. Just because Shaurya didn't put the blame on him means nothing.

I think you are aggrandizing every little thing for no reason. I am a mathematician and physicist and am much capable of emphasizing every logical detail. But even I see nothing wrong in what they did. And even if I did, it is best to forgive such little mistakes because this is not a scientific journal, this is a daily entertainment show who's main purpose is to entertain, not impart moral values.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#58
@charu
I don't think this show had strong women. They were just feeding off rich men for their plans. Also the show tortured females a lot, objectified them through extended scenes of Shaurya and his friends. It rather glorified Rajnath having affair with both Sakshi and Raima. It blamed only women never the men. Goenkas kept blaming Durga than blame their son much. Everyone blamed Sakshi than blame Shaurya and his friends. They didn't even bring up how Karan encouraged these bets on women. Instead just woman bashing going on, at all sides.
They made Durga question Mrs Basu for giving fake statement but no words on real mastermind Girish Basu. Culpability of men was never emphasised. Onus of their crimes was never put solely on them.

@HippoSucks

You cannot tell others how to react.

All I can say, a fiasco is ONLY a fiasco and EVERY SINGLE person is to blame for the fiasco then just one.

We counted the good points and achievements of the show. But we also have right to count any disappointment as well.

If team was so laachaar and beybas then my condolences to them. So sad.😭

I know how trials happen. I am a student of law my dear. And the trial was a mockery of actual proceedings. Sheer joke.

It was too illogical even for a daily soap. I would watch CNWK for jokes than get unintentional humour in shows pretending to take up huge issues.


Edited by atominis - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Perfect100


I agree with you anu_rulz i didn't post a single word of praise in EHT farewell thread bcoz of the last few weeks episodes..but that doesn't mean that i wasn't attached to the show.
The topic was very serious but they failed to handle it properly.
They have ended it in a Ramgopal verma's horror movie style by adding that whistle tune of shaurya..they completely forgot that this show was all about justice to a rape victim.


Absolutely true!

I was posting the thread as episode happened, I lost heart and wondered is this we are making celebration thread for?😲

Utter disappointment.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis


@HippoSucks

You cannot tell others how to react.

All I can say, a fiasco is ONLY a fiasco and EVERY SINGLE person is to blame for the fiasco then just one.

We counted the good points and achievements of the show. But we also have right to count any disappointment as well.

If team was so laachaar and beybas then my condolences to them. So sad.😭

I know how trials happen. I am a student of law my dear. And the trial was a mockery of actual proceedings. Sheer joke.


You can't call the show a debacle. If it was, then I would agree with you that almost everyone involved in the show is to blame for it. But this was far from it.

Once again, you have no need to convince me of your attachment to the show. The mere fact that you reply to my post within 5 minutes of me posting is testament enough.

You most definitely have the right to count any expectations of your's which were not met. But it might be best to not needlessly hyperbolize them.

As far as I know, I didn't use any specialized knowledge of law in my post. You being a law student is completely irrelevant considering all I said is that the defendant can say whatever he wants abruptly during a trial, because as far as I know the judge doesn't have a remote control over his mouth (and no, that is not a run on sentence).

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