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Posted: 10 years ago
#41
I think season 2 will come and provide us answers to a lot of questions. Where is raima? what and how! This time they couldn't but next time they will. Do not compare to KSBKBT becoz that show ran for 8 years.But here the case is different. Like how there many seasons in English shows similarly ETH will come back.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis


I or anyone else here do not need to justify our attachment towards the show.

Our posts and threads are enough to show how much we were attached.

One gets angry only if one has expectations. And one has expectations only if one sees promise in something/someone and gets attached.

If we were not attached then we would not even bother to react or respond and this forum would have no one coming to it.

Despite our frustration we even made farewell thread despite limited time and resources and also made threads on some positive point of the show. That is because we had old time attachment towards the show.

Attachment does not mean blindly appreciating whatever that is doled out and never pointing out obvious blunders at all.

Both channel and team are at fault. Team also if it failed to handle even basic logic towards the end or failed to negotiate with the channel. Or opened too many ends if it was unsure whether they would be given time to resolve them or not. The channel of course has been trashed many times in this thread as well as other threads on the forum. Nobody blames a single person. All are collectively to be blamed. And we as viewers and consumers have every right to comment on satisfaction or lack of it, for a show.


I definitely wasn't asking you to justify your appreciation for the show - I know well enough how much you enjoyed watching and discussing the show. However, the amount of posts here definitely isn't a way to justify such a thing, but I digress. My point is that even if you have high expectations, if one of your expectations (in this case a good ending) isn't met, you shouldn't undermine the whole show.

While attachment doesn't mean blindly accepting faults, it also doesn't mean needlessly emphasizing faults on which the development team had no control. I don't see how you can partly put the blame on the development team, because I assume they were given a month or two notice. They were certainly anticipating an extension of the contract, so it would be very difficult to end the plot on such a short notice.

In such a case, loop holes are expected. Also, while watching fictional shows, it is important to suspend disbelief. While creating the story, I am sure that the development team didn't (and shouldn't) think of "opening too many ends" in the unlikely (at that time) case in which they have to cut short the plot.

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Posted: 10 years ago
#43
@tanvismile
I agree with you but only partly.

The writer has always blamed and targetted only Sakshi in this show and made all characters onky bash her alone. Despite other two Goenkas, Mathur etc being no good either.

Shaurya was barking only accusing his mom. Why didn't he speak on how Rajnath also encouraged him to bet on women instead of slapping him? Why didn't he speak on Rajnath killing lawyer, using even government influence to cover up his rape case?
Why not bash his father too?

And how could he talk of mom not slapping him when she did slap him in the show? Rather Rajnath never slapped at all!

The writer's focus on solely blaming Sakshi is biased. Also it is even more foolish to show a fully grown, adult man with all facilities in life, to blame mom or anyone else for a crime which he committed!

He was saying things like masoom bachcha rapist ban gaya as if mom trained him to be one!

Durga also kept talking about Sakshi only throughout the show. As if it was Sakshi who raped Payal! Why did they not make her haul up Rajnath for killing the lawyer and bribing him to lose the case?

Kangana bashed Sakshi for not teaching Shaurya to respect women. Why no word on dad who protected rapist son and was now about to fix her marriage with another rapist Karan? Why no dialoguefrom her to her father for staking her future?

There are many instances where writer just bashed Sakshi but didn't bring up Rajnath's crimes. Or highlighted his failure as a brother, father, BIL and even BF!

This as well as the tweets of writer show his bias.

Parents should not protect child at any cost. Nor make them feel they are their weakness. It is foolish to think child will grow up or realise and stop blundering. Rather child takes them for granted. This is what happened in case of Goenkas too.

I am not discounting their faults. But blame them equally. And finally, I don't buy simply blaming all and sundry for actions a grown up rich guy commits. Court doesn't listen to such bullshit either. I am shocked why judge let them bark and didn't call for order!😲

Oh and yeah, I don't expect season 2 with same cast. Remote chances.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I never had sky high expectations. But didn't expect this much blunder either.

Sorry but suspension of disbelief is permissible only to some extent. Not these bhoot dramas or 3 cases in one hearing in one day, bank locker nonsense etc. The blunders were too much even for a soap!

It is a shame for a serial which is supposed to be based on a serious issue!

We tolerated lot of bloopers earlier. But still kept plugging in. Only to see an even worse end? Nope. Disappointment is a given.

The team has to be equally blamed as it was killing time earlier also in July-August than show to the point stuff. They didn't just mess up in last few weeks.

Being in this field they had no idea and were not prepared for uncertainties? No back up plan?

If you get 2 month notice then you do this? They surely don't know how to work under pressure then. The bloopers were too obvious. One didn't even need to emphasise them!

Say what you will but it takes both hands to clap. I will blame both team and channel. As a viewer and as a consumer I have every right to do so. And also ponder if attachment to the show was worth it or not.

The end is crucial in determining how one assesses the whole journey. All's well that "ends well", that is the adage. And here the end was not well.

We have shown appreciation for team through other threads. We can express our criticism too.

You keep judging our posts in quality or quantity or question our attachment as you wish. But it is only us as individuals who know how much attached or not, we were. And we don't need to prove that to anybody.

There are countless threads on Star Plus as a channel, criticising them. This thread title also mentions channel first. So why are you getting so defensive for the team?

What's done is done. It's over now. Our comments are not going to change anything. The team already thinks they made a masterpiece and are faultless, so why are you bothered over comments?
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Posted: 10 years ago
#45
Just saw d repeat in Auckland n it really sucked...wat a rubbish ending...expected something way much better
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Posted: 10 years ago
#46
Objective of a TV show forum is to discuss the show and not its members.
Discussion means both criticism and appreciation and so shall it remain irrespective of what people think about it. To do either of it one has to watch the show. I don't think either of us had watch to show to look out for blunders and discuss it here. People actually don't have enough time to discuss something they are not connected with.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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agree with u anu the ending was too rushed as everything was happening very quickly. they needed least a week for this court room drama.

goenka's lawyer didn't even asked anything from the prosecution witness and no cross questioning.

i guess ph has some hopes of getting another season so an open ending.

however there were some points too which are as follows--

1) Payal finally getting the courage to confront shaurya &look him in the eye in the court saying he has wronged me and i deserve justice was a good one. her slapping him earlier though would always remain my fav. her dialogue kind of sums up the pain of every rape victim who is fighting for years---" it took the strength of a entire lifetime for me to come here & ask for justice again"

this was so true not only for payal but also for many women who are still fighting their cases . the love and affection shown by durga - dayal for payal has helped her in crossing this bridge.

2) durga's monologue had the best dialogues. the rape survivor instead of rape victim was bang on 👍🏼 she summed up the reality of our society .

3) Shaurya's behaviour clearly tells u that ppl with power and money think they can get away with anything. Right to the last moment he was confident he would be free and is above law which holds true in our country .

4) though i hate shaurya but he was right if sakshi would have slapped him on his first mistake he wouldn't have gone too far. As a mother it was her duty to teach him to respect women and not treat them as commodity and objects. same goes for rajnath also , he too should have been blamed and shaurya should have shouted at him too. he kind of was let gone scott free


5 ) sakshi loosing her sanity after shaurya turned on her shows despite everything she has done she couldn't get the love and respect from him. he used her for his selfish reasons.

6) Public anger and humilation of shaurya was good.he deserved every bit of it.

7) lastly i am glad they didn't forget mathur , basu , mukherjee & made sure everyone gulity was punished even though it was too fast paced.
Edited by MS-meghasharma - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: atominis

@tanvismile

I agree with you but only partly.

The writer has always blamed and targetted only Sakshi in this show and made all characters onky bash her alone. Despite other two Goenkas, Mathur etc being no good either.

Shaurya was barking only accusing his mom. Why didn't he speak on how Rajnath also encouraged him to bet on women instead of slapping him? Why didn't he speak on Rajnath killing lawyer, using even government influence to cover up his rape case?
Why not bash his father too?

And how could he talk of mom not slapping him when she did slap him in the show? Rather Rajnath never slapped at all!

The writer's focus on solely blaming Sakshi is biased. Also it is even more foolish to show a fully grown, adult man with all facilities in life, to blame mom or anyone else for a crime which he committed!

He was saying things like masoom bachcha rapist ban gaya as if mom trained him to be one!

Durga also kept talking about Sakshi only throughout the show. As if it was Sakshi who raped Payal! Why did they not make her haul up Rajnath for killing the lawyer and bribing him to lose the case?

Kangana bashed Sakshi for not teaching Shaurya to respect women. Why no word on dad who protected rapist son and was now about to fix her marriage with another rapist Karan? Why no dialoguefrom her to her father for staking her future?

There are many instances where writer just bashed Sakshi but didn't bring up Rajnath's crimes. Or highlighted his failure as a brother, father, BIL and even BF!

This as well as the tweets of writer show his bias.

Parents should not protect child at any cost. Nor make them feel they are their weakness. It is foolish to think child will grow up or realise and stop blundering. Rather child takes them for granted. This is what happened in case of Goenkas too.

I am not discounting their faults. But blame them equally. And finally, I don't buy simply blaming all and sundry for actions a grown up rich guy commits. Court doesn't listen to such bullshit either. I am shocked why judge let them bark and didn't call for order!😲

Oh and yeah, I don't expect season 2 with same cast. Remote chances.


Why is that sakshi is targeted always? Now the answer is hidden in ur question! Ask your self this question? Why those fake goons teased shaurya, mamma boy!


You remember shaurya is always termed as mamma s boy. Durga kept targeting sakshi because sakshi was biggest obstacle who was coming in between.Kangana also shouted at her father.May be not like the way she spoke to sakshi. But if you notice rajnath also dint became voilent like sakshi. That's speaks a lot about sakshi. These short instances tell the difference between rajnath connection with shaurya and sakshi connection with shaurya.

But nobody says anything to raj doesn't mean he has been very good father.


The writer isn't biased. But this is just a msg that sakshi indeed played a bigger role in it. If she hadn't been there shaurya would be like this.Sakshi love was altogether to another level.Anything happens he goes to her. Even when kangana fought with them she shouted at rajnath not shaurya. Rajnath shouted at shaurya, she attacked raj again. She cannot tolerate a word against shaurya from raj, kangana anyone.

Even in the starting episodes, when shaurya drugged durga and taken to police station, dayal insulted shaurya and family indirectly. That time rajnath fired shaurya, sakshi came in defence, rajnath got irritated and went. But sakshi later on slapped him. Shaurya never got affected when his father shouted him but affected by sakshi s slap. It just proves what place sakshi holds in shaurya s life.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Blame will be more on Sakshi because as a woman she protected her rapist son without understanding the pain of another woman her son has ripped apart. If Payal was emotionally abused in court Sakshi played the greatest role in that abuse and the mental torture that followed later.
And what did Sakshi do when Shaurya was gonna marry Durga. Take on a sick girl with an emotional rape. How could a woman do it. Recreating the trauma of rape for the mentally sick Payal.
So it shows the extent to which Sakshi will go for her rotten son. For any crime he do she will protect him and it doesn't matter to her who she maim or kill for the same.
So whatever Shaurya told to her in court she deserved it, every bit of it that too coming from the mouth of the person for whom she has killed and maimed.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: HippoSucks

If you depreciate the whole show due to a rushed last week (entirely out of the development team's hands), then you weren't too attached to the show in the first place.

well if a show wins accolades for a crisp screenplay and good research, then it shud be able to handle brickbats too for a rushed ending and a million loopholes..unnecessary scenes killed the screentime and essential tracks were crammed together and finished within minutes..as a consumer, i or any other member am entitled to complain if a show i enjoyed was ruined due to poor writing..being attached is evident by the time taken to constructively criticise the show...coz we had high expectations from the show..simply gushing over a show does not show attachment..

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