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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

So guys here goes the Chakravyuh I was talking about from the time I saw the number 13. Priti unfortunately your hope dashed and my Chakravyuh ki idea won 😆😆. What is so special about Chakravyuh and Abhi's killing.

What is the significance of 7 holes ( thank you moon for confirming it ). Chakravyuh has 7 layers and Abhi was killed surrounded by 7 warriors from all sides.

Now let us look at the men who killed Abhi. Dronacharya commander in chief. To those who are asking doesn't Manohar wants justice for his son. Who was Arjuna to Bhishma, his great grandson. It is said that when Arjuna was his favourite grand son and that is why Arjuna hesitate fighting with him. Asking can I send the arrow at Bhishma.

Where did Bhishma stood when the time for decision came. Arjuna was confused, but was Bhishma in supporting Adharma. Answer is no. Because it is not the truth but the system mattered to him.

Abhay's loyalty and Adarsh's principles are not over and above the system for Manohar. Let his son die, let another one's life go in jeopardy what he wants is system to win.

Now Dronacharya Arjun was his favourite disciple. He knew who Abhi is. But does this man show any empathy towards the 16 year boy when hearing Shakuni and co he orders the 7 warriors to surround the child and kill him. Answer is no. More than Dharma, the system mattered to him. Abhi challenged the system single handedly. If you look both Abhay and Asad had challenged the systems in their own way. Abhay by having a impromptu love marriage, Asad by taking away a girl from the mandap. They rattled the power centres. But unfortunately they couldn't break it. Denial of justice to Asad, is denial of justice to Abhay. I will keep Swa's father in Dronacharya position. Adarsh's guruji. His pitashree wants to protect system, his guruji wants to protect system.

Now come the interesting character Karna. Who breaks Abhi's bow from behind. This idiot( sorry for saying this, I do admire Karna but then doing to Abhi what he did was unpardonable for me) knew his birth secret. He knew the one who he was killing was his nephew, his brother's son. And he did it. He was part and parcel of the brutal killing of Abhi. Jai. Jai fits the bill of Karna. He knows his brother's killer is roaming around. He knows his another brother's life is in tatters. He knows the truth but want to side with the system to deny justice to Asad and his own brother Abhay. I want to see when he will remember his chotu holding his hand desperately and uttering Asad.

CM, Allan Trevor, Aravind Gupta and the man who supported Aravind Gupta forms the remaining 4 layers of this Chakravyuh.

Who guards this Chakravyuh. Jayadrath or Yash Bundela.

Arjun and Krishna does not know the Chakravyuh. They are battling elsewhere. Swa and Adarsh have no clue about the deception that is getting created especially the way the family members are involved. They are lost in their battle.

Now the only way Chakravyuh can be broken is by discrediting Yash Bundela. Because Suhasini the mother is still with truth. And the day Yash Bundela is discredited no system can stop the mother Suhasini in ensuring the man who has send 11 bullets on her darling son is send to gallows. And it is not just Suhasini the mother will be there that day, but a wife who is asking for justice for her husband will also be there supported strongly by the man Adarsh Sinha and Swadeenta Ramakrishnan battling it out in the court to establish justice.

Game is discrediting Yash Bundela. This is going to be the most interesting and the most anticipated part of Dahleez.

Waiting waiting desperately for the rip off Yash Bundela. Swa has thrown the challenge, now need to see how she fights it out.

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Jemimah90

@Jemimah90

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Posted: 9 years ago

Shru beautiful analysis as always..👏

I can see arjun as zubeida who is driving swa.. swa has to win anyways..

Kal ke episode ke baad i have lots of questions for which i need answers...

The sinhas accused swa regarding their responsibilities , now i want to know where was there responsibility when minister told about the mistake done by system by shooting wrong person?

Is hiding your mistake and saving the system more important than getting justice for your son and the lost soul and innocent surviving soul?

When they accused swa they had alleged her of supporting terrorist , their family , being biased towards chotu , being irresponsible towards sasural duties , and what not? , now what these duo father n son are upto?

That bloody cheap dog yash told numerous times that he keeps personal n professional life different, what he is doing now? He told they fight for the country , die for the country !!!! like really? Is this the way u fight for your country?

Suha wake up , stop believing on the lies which yash told , where is your conscious mind? The women who can easily figure out that the opponent is lying or saying truth is herself caught in the web of lies?? How can you be so dumb suha?

Adhu , he is not even ready to give swa the benefit of doubt!!! U r also a bureaucrat dude!!! Do some work , try to find out what's happening?

Minister wowww what a comment he made.. a mistake!!!!!!! Taking some innocent's life is a mistake????????? Really??? Why that family is paying the price of system's irresponsible behaviour? Is your post , system , your party important than giving justice to an innocent soul..? Is it more important than covering the mistakes done by system?

Jaideev i had some respect for this guy.. but yesterday i felt betrayed miserably!!!! Dude your brother is dead , terrorists killed him , a guy who is innocent is quoted as terrorist n u got to know the biggest truth , still u r supporting ur dad n romancing your wife ? like really? How can you be so calm , composed? No regrets , no guilt?

Last but not the least mano telling he will do anything to save system .. bloody gadha .. yaar ur son is dead because of u n your bloody system's mistake n mantri.. koi baap aise kaise ho sakta hai? Is aadmi ko apne family , apne bte se zyada system ki padi hai...?

And swa .. she is the most brave character i have seen.. when the blood relations like mano n jaidev are interested in saving their system swa is ready to cross all boundries to provide justice to jalanis.. she treats them more than the blood relations more than anything else.. its the test of relationship n in which she has passed with flying colours n will achieve victory soon.. she blindly trusts on jilanis when the entire nation is against them.. this is what i said earlier , truth needs no proof .. u cnnot see , hear the truth but it can be felt.. through our belief on the persons whom we know better..

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Sur89

@Sur89

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Posted: 9 years ago

Nicely written Shurrhi, was waiting for your post. i was really disappointed by the episode altough i knew this is going to happen. Asad said while dying that his death is a 'kurbaani' , so its very likely that his death will bring out not only the real culprit but also it will demolish the so called power centers of our society. the power center on which we believe the most, adarsh and suha are believing the most. Leave simmi and jaya as they are simpe housewives and we can give them benefit of doubt as we know that the people who are not directly invlolved witht he system are very less aware about it. There is no point for them to doubt,.But suha and adarsh being the part of that system, knowing that there are chances of some foul play , they are totally blinded by the system. So leaving jaya n simmi, the four people they are trusting on are mano,jai,yash and somewhat arvind. they are unknowingly siding with the people who got abhay and asad killed and also with the people who are responsible for suppressing the truth.

Yesterday I was unsure whether this show will have a happy ending but after reading your post I am assured that truth will triumph and it will give freedom to everyone. Even mano and jai will be set free from the burden of guilt and wrong doings done by them. Asad ki kurbaani bekar nahi jani chahiy. Both jai and mano are not evil but they are bounded by the system. Even the minister said that we have two options, either to say the truth or hide it for the sake of system. So its the system, the power center which is making people go against their own will.

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K.S.

@K.S.

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Posted: 9 years ago

Amazing analysis shruthi..but d bullets holes r 8..

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Sohini Dasgupta

@.SoHu.

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Posted: 9 years ago

Shruthi, you are simply outstanding! Your understanding of the Mahabharata is so spot on! Needless to say, like everyone here I love to read how you connect the two. 👏

So you are equating manohar to Bhishma pitamah.? Interesting! But does that mean he will finally bend?

See, in any case the system has to break, so do you feel Manohar would have a role later on by having a change of heart and break the system?

And who do you equate Suhasini to?

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sp108

@sp108

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Posted: 9 years ago

Shruthi, I was so depressed after yesterday's episode. And that is because, what is being shown on Dahleez is a slice of reality. Such cover-ups keep happening, not just in India, but the world over. Sometimes I wonder, if we should even believe the convictions happening in various cases. The dead take their story with them, their truths with them. Unless the system of justice is sound enough, no body is going to question the points put forth by the system, by the media.

Systems and institutions are creations of the human beings. However, we can't expect the system to run on the integrity of the individuals involved in the system. Hence, there are processes, checks, firewalls and security measures in place to minimise the impact of corrupt and dishonest individuals in the system. This is where I find that the media as an institution has collapsed. They report anything that they feel. They don't reveal their sources, nor do they check the authenticity and credibility of the sources before making a news item. When Governments try to reform the media, they cry hoarse saying freedom of speech is being throttled. In the pre-cap, we see that Manohar and Jai use this system- called media. It is the easiest system to manipulate, because it has no checks and balances in place. It functions on the integrity of few individuals, who are becoming fewer by the day.

When Jaya tied the black thread on Jaidev's wrist, I concluded that it will be him who has to bring out the truth of Asad being innocent. And I feel that is bound to happen. As you rightly pointed out, this Karna (Jai) needs to fall, only then there will be victory.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

What did Bhishma get Sohu. Bed of Arrows by his great grandson. That's what Manohar is going to get. He will live each day on those bed of arrows seeing his family falling apart and he cannot do anything. Only thing he will do at the end is, he will pass the mantle to his middle son. Adarsh Sinha to practice his theories, to change the direction of the system that him and people like him have build up. The system that has taken his son Abhay and made an unborn child fatherless

Gayatri Arjun is Swa. Arjun is always in action. Zubaida is Panchali or rather the woman who demanded justice. Panchali doesn't exist in war field, but it she who is responsible for the war. Swa is driving the war. Arjun. People has started fearing Arjun. Now block Arjun at any cost. Protect system at any cost. Arjun is tearing apart on day 14. People just want Arjun to jump on the pyre so that the system can be protected.

Sur even when you are part of the system it is very difficult to understand Chakravyuh. For that you have to understand people, their motivations. Basically you have to accept people are selfish than selfless. This selfishness can result in taking something away or this selfishness can manifest as freewill giving something. Only freewill can combat selfishness which Swa is having. She is completely freewill. We can say she too has selfishness. To clear the mark from her brother's name. But it is the way selfishness and freewill acts you differentiate them. Selfishness is about person and benefit to person. Freewill is about protection to others at the cost of self.

KS 8 bullet holes I have to think. It can signify the centre of Chakravyuha after 7 layers or the breaking point of Chakravyuha. Because Chakravyuha has 7 layers. But there are 8 directions. And maybe the clue to breaking Chakravyuha is in the 8th direction. Not sure. But will wait.

sp you can see Chakravyuha in our families, in our daily life. You just need to understand it. Once you understand the power dynamics of chakravyuha in your home you will learn to break it. Power of the system is so huge. We need to understand this power dynamics accept the power dynamics if you have to break the system. That's why even in MB it is said not many can break Chakravyuha.

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Soapoperasrfun

@Soapoperasrfun

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Posted: 9 years ago

Shruthi, This Jaidev Sinha defeated me . I had so much hopes on him, and this man defeated me.

Looking at what life is doing to the protagonists, Haider, Zubaida and Suhasini and Simmi, I am so dumbfounded that Jai could have a light romantic moment with his wife that night. How? How can such people live with themselves?

Jai changing and spilling the beans now makes no difference to me. He may feel guilty about it, but does that clear him of the moral injustice he was venturing out to do? Never! I rather he gets himself to a position of no redemption. He does not deserve it.

Abhay is dead. But Adarsh and Swadheenta are dying, each day. His mother is falling apart every time in court when she has to mention DCP Sinha's name. Is he not privy to all this? Does he not remember how he taunted Swadheenta every time she wanted to identify the true killers of Abhay and not just getting justice for Asad? Was he not there when everyone of them literally hunted down on Swadheenta for her want to stand up for truth and justice?

Manohar is a lost cause. The system is important to him. But Jai? He was shown to love his brothers. He was shown to have a soul. I will be fair. I was not expecting him to spill the beans immediately. I knew he will be conflicted some. But some repentance, some confusion, some sorrow... some humanity? He may not have been a part of it, but the lives of so many people got destroyed. And I did not see even one iota of concern on his face. He was just willing to go with his dad.

Tomorrow, I don't know how the truth will come out. I don't know if Jai will confide in Jaya, or if Jaya tumbles on something, or Swadheenta discredits Yash, or Adarsh finds some truth, or Suhasini finds some information... I don't know what will happen. But No matter what happens and how much Jai regrets this, he does not deserve forgiveness. He is as bad as Manohar. In fact, Manohar is better, because he is decisive. Jai is neither here nor there. People like him are worse than Manohar. I am truly disappointed in him.

I think the reporter mentioned Allen Broad in her statement (as per precap). Waiting to see if that will ring alarming bells in Suhasini's mind. She knows that they had him released and Manohar had a role to play. Adarsh is unaware of that too.

I am waiting to see if this Allen Broad name was a leak Paddy got on her own, or if it was fed to her by Jaidev (or someone related). But I don't understand why Jaidev would have such an announcement made. Why would he involve Allen Broad because he knows of his dad's connection to him. Maybe, just maybe, Jai had intentions of helping Swadheenta but knew he wouldn't be able to do it directly by opposing his father? Is there still some goodness left in this man? I am scared to him. He has disappointed me enough.

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

@Priti I can understand your stand. When Manohar Sinha told he knows what to do and Jai says yes I was only thinking about you and how shattered you will feel, though I had expected it.

Jai just listens to his father. He was like that earlier also. He had not taken any decision per se. When does he take something. When Simmi falls ill and Abhay spill the beans of truth of his marriage and Adarsh tells he loves Swa. He encourages Adarsh to go for Swa, but when Adarsh takes Swa's hand we don't find this guy talking to his parents. Instead he goes and shouts at his wife. It is Jaya who takes things in hand spill beans and shout at him finally to speak something.

So for me Jai has to be pushed to be the brink if he has to do something else apart from what his dad says. I hope Simmi suffers something. Some danger to the baby and atleast at that point he spills something. Because atleast then his conscience has to come. His chotu's last nishaani the destiny is trying to take away from them for siding with adharma.

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Srividya

@moonwearer

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Posted: 9 years ago

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You array your troops you plan your strategy and time your moves with precision to hit the most vulnerable spot at the vulnerable moment. The two timing Lt Yash Bundela put his plan of circulating images and defusing bombs by denying any role for Asad when both his sister and Robinhood were exchanging marriage vows.

More than averting disaster it becomes an act of revenge...Swa will break through the myth that is being built. She refused to join hands with the media...buy into the fabricated case of the police...she thwarted their lie and prompted the minister to disclose the facts to Ganje Uncle and Jai.Saasuma will make her plea Her Mr Sinha has already questioned her trust and put his love at stake...as i shared in a post this morning Truth will triumph...

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