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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Guinea


You know , I have seen all this in my extended family based in meerut , just 2 hrs away from delhi , where I live and it is not that the women mind ! They know no better ...

That's a pity. But even if they know no better, are they happy with their circumstances? Every one of us have been given a will by Divinity. If this will is thwarted for whatever reason, then we are not living the life we should be. And that is a sin. I'm not saying they are sinful. Just that living a life like this is. When they could be so much happier. Their soul would be freer. But like you say, if they know not...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: varma.nishi1


I know guinea have heard a lot ABT stuff ...sigh

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: kbtr

That's a pity. But even if they know no better, are they happy with their circumstances? Every one of us have been given a will by Divinity. If this will is thwarted for whatever reason, then we are not living the life we should be. And that is a sin. I'm not saying they are sinful. Just that living a life like this is. When they could be so much happier. Their soul would be freer. But like you say, if they know not...


The issue my dear is not wheather it is right or wrong , ofcourse it is wrong for women not to have the option to live life on their own terms ...the real issue is , does this happen ...ofcourse this happens and these type of joint families are quiet comman in india . This serial is based in ahemedabad and beleive me in gujju culture ( ahemedabad is a city in the state of gujarat ) such families are comman. Ofcourse serials exaggerate a lot and over dramatise things but they take inspiration from reality ... This exists ...it is changing slowly but it still exists in various households in india.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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It is sad, but yes, even in these day and age, they do exist in some families in smaller towns. The DIL's cannot even move a muscle without MIL's permission.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I beg the writers and CVS to show Chan Chan doing every thing so all MIL in India learn from it let this serial and Sanaya be a model they have to show how world has changed instead of Ekta type MIL Some one has to begin some where...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: DiyaS



Of course, now when you put it so logically, and sensibly it all makes sense. BUT:

This is extreme, but in many conservative families, some of these rules still exist.
- Can't go out without permission from in-laws, or informing them well in advance - informing makes sense, because meals have to be planned accordingly, and well in time, especially in a large family ... but permission? for adults?

Do I need permission to ask my mum to go on a honeymoon?

- Can't wear clothes that you want - if you're alone at home or only with husband, floating around in a skimpy nighty is okay, but even a modern girl would be embarrassed if her FIL or older brother-in-law saw her that way. So making sure you're decent outside your own room comes automatically ... it doesn't have to be forced.

Hmmm... what if I want to wear shorts and T-shirts? That's pretty respectable. (I wear shorts and T-shirts in the house all the time, all the time. With my brothers, their friends and everyone else around. There are always people at my house. My dad's friends, my uncles, my mom's friends... am I being disrespectful. I don't think so.I'm not floating around naked!) Plus as in Chhan Chhan's and her bhabhi's cases if they cannot even wear shalwaar suits...??? And I have to ASK my MIL for my bhabhis to wear suits because they are too afraid???... Plus, Chhan Chhan's nighty was pretty sedate. It was not revealing. She was more covered than a saree!!!

- Can't have friends over - if you have only one hall/drawing room, then the couples would have to check with each other if it was free for their friends to drop in ... otherwise friends have to sit in the couple's bedroom. I knew a joint family like this.


Except that Chhan Chhan's new house is huge. And yeah, it's great to have some idea of who's coming to visit. That's being considerate in letting others know. But spontaneity is also OK. It should be OK for family to drop in uninvited. And close friends. too. One drawing room or not. Where the visitors seat is quite irrelevant, the visit and feelings are important. But, yeah, for space purposes, I do see your point.


-Can't talk without permission - many families I know, the DILs are supposed to be quiet and not speak in 'family matters' ... those involving the parents and siblings. And mostly they don't, they prefer to stay out. They only give their opinions to their husbands in private. Matters involving the couples themselves are different, there they speak freely.

Are the DIL's not a part of the family? They are required to do all the work, serve their husbands, serve their in-laws, look after the children, fulfill their husbands sexual desires, but they are not considered as part of the family?? Do they prefer to stay out of it because they want to, or because they are not allowed to be in it? Or because they are too afraid? Or because they will be "put in their place" and insulted?

So most of these rules are pretty much common sense ... no sensible girl would do very much differently, especially not in her first few days in her new home. It's when they are carried to extremes that they become ridiculous ... and that's what they're trying to show here.

Yeah I guess, they are trying to show the extremes so that people become aware (that such things do exist?) I consider myself to be very sensible. But hell will freeze over before I lose my identity and give someone the power to control me like I am a second class citizen. Especially, my husband (who would feel it is OK to eat without me...!) Of course, I am not saying create a dispute - these things can be solved amicably, And I suspect this is what we will be seeing in the show. A mature Chhan Chhan solving issues with logic and an immature UB tying hard to maintain her power and control over archaic and unfair rules all in the name of "traditions" - by whatever means available, including emotional blackmail.

Being subservient to MIL and family ... being polite is normal ... it doesn't HAVE to mean subservient. Here it does ... again that's what they're trying to show. You CAN make your point and disagree with the rules, without being rude or militant.

Agreed. Politeness from both parties does not mean being subservient. Like you said, here it is all about being subservient to the MIL and to a lesser degree the other in-laws.

-Can't eat with hubby ... ah, there you've got me!!! No excuses for that at all ... not in this day and age.. plus they have servants to serve the hot rotis - the only reason where that might be permissable. And not sitting at the same table, but eating in the kitchen - ridiculous!!! Like someone very perceptively remarked, that was a way to show the DILs their place - never quite part of the family, only a step above servants.


I'm stumped, too. There is no excuse for such behavior. Bas!
The DILs in this house are treated no less than the servants. And this is what is so perplexing. It's OK to have sex with them, but not to eat with them?? But what about the husbands? Its OK for them that their wives are treated like this? And Manav? He has been shown to be different. So why is he eating without his wife? It's OK for him that his wife eats alone and in the kitchen?? Bloody disgusting!
Of course, but why should they even have thought about this, because this is what they are used to. They would only think about this from a different perspective if they were the ones being treated like this...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: ..SaNjEeDa..

Nope..Such narrow-minded ness doesnt exist in big cities or in educated families anymore...Heck! Such things doesnt even exist in normal cities in our neighbouring countries...These shows are just freaking unreal and ofcourse this is an extreme case..Real life is not a saas-bahu daily soap and thank f** for that!

Amen to that!
Some would disagree with you, though. Read the responses in this post!😭
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Posted: 12 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: SanayaIsBest

Though they have exagerated here, there is lot of reality too.


I know some of my extended family that lives in small towns & villages live like this.
Girls are not educated, so they do not expect much either.

I have myself seen restriction on clothes and eating with rest of family.
Women eat after serving others and men do not pick up theirs plates.
My own MIL prefers the men to leave their plates on table after eating. However, I live away in the US, so am not subject to all this.

However in big cities, these things do not happen.

Still do not understand this concept. Would they like to be treated like this? The in-laws and the men? How can they allow their wives to be treated like this. I'm not even of the same culture and it bothers me no hell!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sanu5555

such ppl do exist in this world
sad but true

They would stop if they were treated the same way!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: showviewer



Second everything you wrote Diya, except that even daughter in-laws eating after men and children is still very much practiced in many households. I have seen and experienced this myself when I visit my home town. One of my pet peeves during those visits and I am not talking of some very rural areas. So, these practices are alive and kicking in many parts of India. They even exist in some families living in Mumbai and Delhi and this story is set in Ahmedabad, not a small city, but a place where such a conservative family can be found.

Even the divide and rule kind of games, jealousy and comparisons and contrasts are very much part of large joint families where several generations, siblings and their spouses live togather. Of course some drama is added to the serial, but these family politics in large families do exist.

This is very sad to know. As human beings have we become so basic? What of the intelligence that we have been endowed with? The will? We have a higher destiny to fulfill, but we are so besotted with the material things in life (power and control in this case) that we have lost sight of the real meaning of life. Peace, joy and equality for ALL. Including DILs. Including those that are less fortunate than others. Including those that are less educated than others. Including those that live in rural areas. Including those that come from less affluent families ...
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