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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: AJSharma79

Chandra and Nandini are the sun to each other's Icarus. That is all I could think of at the end of the episode today. The inviting warmth of the sun, makes them soar higher and nearer to the very heat that will burn them, and plummet them to the bottom of the sea. The attention that they get from each other during the merciful interludes between each heightening misunderstanding and argument, magnetizes them to each other instantenously after blow-ups.

Ms. Mishchiefs was such a delight in the snankhaksh with her childlike giggles and zeal. Its purpose was to entice Malay, but the poor sap who got stuck in the trap was Chandra. Her girlish demeanor increased his delight when she was talking about the renewed love, and the same demeanor adds to his chagrin when she says that one forbidden word - Malay. His smile when she said I love you, was the sign of the renewed life of his dying love. But alas, with Aapama and Roopa roaming free, how does one smile for long?

He walks away in angst and anger, and stands there letting it runs its course lest he pummel someone to pulp when walks in none other than Malay with the worst of proof in hand. When he said I know what to do, I thought he was going to question Nandini. But no. Instead he decides to take a bath. Ok, honeslty I thought he was going to make her bath with her...hehehehe... he disappointed me until...ehem...ehem... So moving on. I was happy to hear Nandini's inner voice going on with what is wrong, after all he is your husband. I know he is doing it to spite me but I will do it after all'. So again, I was dreaming about some Hindi movie style stuff, where she will try to rub the past and he will swiftly drag her into the water. But ALAS! He drags Katherina Minola reincarnate.

Now I am stupefied with why Helena does not find any of this absurd of humiliating for herself. And her, its ok soon I will have you all for myself is even more bizarre. In all of the exchange, however minimal it was, he never once took his eyes of Nandini. Even as he pulled Helena close his eyes were firmly fixed to Nandini. And this time, Rajat should take a bow (god how many has he had to already?) for confining that fire of hate and anger within the molten lava dripping from his eyes alone. If I was Nandini, I would happily jump off the balcony than stand the intensity of that glare! Yikes. No snarling, no visible gritting of teeth, nothing OTT. Just perfect.

Helena for all her speeches on how she will reign victory is nothing but a stupid blind vamp who has no inkling of what really is happening. Her mom aptly calls her bewakoof . And still she cannot get a single idea despite her mother's exasperation that what happened is not an victory, and there is much more. What a dumb colt. Sigh... I like her a lot at that scene by the lake right after Chandra lost his battle. She was lovely. How did she degrade so much so fast?

For one thing, Dadi is here to stay because she is the glue that is sticking the jodi together through sticky situation. (BTW I would not have paid a dime to that artist...I didn't feel the portrait did justice to them both). Just like he panicked when Nandini fainted, his worry is immediate when she yelps in pain. I loved the part where he came close to her while telling Dadi he came searching for her and now caught her, simultaneously catching her hurt hand. Very nicely done.

The highlight to me was the tone of voice as he applied lep and talking all the time. Again, I congratulate him for not yelling, snarling or just being a total donkey. For a man who said kitne teh' with so less reason, this time instead all that came through was his pain. I am extremely glad that he showed her that letter. Instead of both talking in code languages that the other cannot understand, at least this time some clarity is there. Whether after her bas she will say he has stooped so low to even fake this letter or she will say I am leaving for I cannot bear this insult or pain anymore, I don't know. All I know is that she now should know, on top of Moora seeing her smoking, Chandra watching her going into Malay's room, now Malay is able to produce a letter written by her. Well, of course she can always say Malay faked it - after all Malay told her he will get her after ridding Chandra, so this could be one of his tricks. Whatever it is, it is about time Nandini used the yodha's brain, if any is left after being churned into chutney by her love and figure out what the hell is going on.

I wonder what did Roopa do to that gift.

In the meantime I found this 2 quotes that I think sums up Chandra and Nandini

To Chandra - "Love hurts when it changes us.", Toba Beta, Betelgeuse Incident: Insiden Bait Al-Jauza

To Nandini - "I wanted to punch him and understand him at the same time." Shannon A. Thompson, Take Me Tomorrow

Beautiful take Anne. Just like you felt that both of them were the Sun to the other's Icarus, I felt something similar to that. Both of them are like glow worms attracted to the other's light. They are themselves in the dark but emit light for the other. They know that they are going to be scorched and die a figurative death if they go closer to each other. Yet they cannot resist the thrall of each other's light. They rush closer and invite their own pain by approaching each other. That is how they are destined to be till they realize their mutual love for each other.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you so much, my dear Shreya. But then you are always very warm in your comments on my posts!

Now your take on the way in which Chandra and Nandini react to one another is extremely perceptive.👏 It is essentially the same as that put out by Anne (AJSharma 79) on page 17. Do take a look at it.The similarity is startling; the two of you must be telepathic!

The bitterness would have vanished like a mirage but for two things.

The first, which is in the present, is Roopa. Tonight, for the first time, Chandra confronts Nandini with the "evidence" of the letter

I do not know what Nandini proposes to do in response other than whisper Bas, Chandra, bas! But even assuming that she denies it stoutly, he will not believe her, because of the physical evidence of the "Nandini" he saw in the snankakash, and the reinforcing false confession earlier made to him, very foolishly, by Nandini herself. So Nandini is well and truly in a bind, partly of her own making. This will be sorted out only when Roopa is finally exposed.



^^^^^^That is the point why they always saw a couple with imbalance. When they hate they forgot to keep respect and when falling in love they forget self respect. I saw this episode they saw her as weak person because she love him. Why they saw love as weakness or cover up with anger or ego.

Forgive and forget is different things but why love is weaknesses.
In this way.



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Posted: 8 years ago
We have Chandra 1 and 2 , same with Nandini 1 and 2. It's not a bad idea to have Chankya 1 and 2😉. They wracked the character😡, why not take it whole nine yards. It would be a sight to see Chankya 2 ( the alter ego) sitting in a cavern with padmu and playing teen pati, with some madira paan, and a few damsels lagaing thumka , to Bollywood beats😆😆🤣

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

Beautiful take Anne. Just like you felt that both of them were the Sun to the other's Icarus, I felt something similar to that. Both of them are like glow worms attracted to the other's light. They are themselves in the dark but emit light for the other. They know that they are going to be scorched and die a figurative death if they go closer to each other. Yet they cannot resist the thrall of each other's light. They rush closer and invite their own pain by approaching each other. That is how they are destined to be till they realize their mutual love for each other.


Thanks Shailaja...

Can't decide which i should be sighing at ...their pained love, or Chandra-Hamam...but i am sighing
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If I may add my 5 sen (MY Currency of course) to your thoughts is that the so called reality based shows are there for nothing but to highlight and milk money out of exposing the ugliest, nasties, most distasteful parts of the deteriorating culture. In any society the deterioration of culture over time can be expected, but what i notice in all this so called prime time serials are the shocking uglyfication of morality and culture for the sake of entertainment? Have we lost it completely that we find this ardent lust over another man/woman spouse and the gross scheming to attain them as entertaining? What has become of us that we are diligently switching on to watch how children disrespect or tear apart family values as on screen characters and we find it entertaining. And the list goes on. Its always wanting someone else's assets, spouse, children one thing or another. There cannot be a story without someone wanting something that is not theirs to take.
The serials are nothing but a slice by slice review of the rotting culture.

The reality is taht there is so much more that this in our culture. there is so much more than this cheap stories in our lives. it is so sad that only this cheap stuff sell. Nobody is interested in making stories about achievement, fighting for the rights of the unfortunate because good stuff dont sell.

Even historical stories are not spared as we saw in JA. But small mercies are that there is limit to how low they can stoop in historical stories, so i think we are save in CN.

As for expecting historical accuracy or showing the skill of Chanakya, we can forget it. in fact it is wrong to expect it as this serial has been promoted as 'can hate turn to love' type story. So the fault is in us if we expect Chandra to be shown as brushing his warrior skills. Nope. Just be glad that we dont have a besotted king who is like a lap dog to the ice queen.



Originally posted by: shailusri1983

Ankita good to see you here after a long, long while. I agree that the initial promise shown by the promos has been belied in the actual episodes. Perhaps this was always the real story the CVs had in mind. All those promos were mainly shot to lure unsuspecting folks like us with their brilliance.

But when I come to think of it, it is not so bad either. This was always meant to be a love story. In expecting Indian TV to go beyond Mills and Boons Clones and Tropes to rise and elevate itself to the level of a true classic is a high benchmark to attain. We might have to wait for that perhaps!

Even if it is uncompromisingly made our audiences are such that they will not understand or accept it. A look at the TRPs will tell you that. What sort of yucky stuff really reaches the top of the TRP charts! CN somehow satisfies my criteria of what I consider entertaining.

I would watch a love story rather than kitchen politics or regressive shows which pull us back by several decades or in cases centuries in terms of culture and class. I would always prefer a mytho or a historical fiction any day to the mundane reality based unreal shows.


Edited by AJSharma79 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: AJSharma79

Chandra and Nandini are the sun to each other's Icarus. That is all I could think of at the end of the episode today. The inviting warmth of the sun, makes them soar higher and nearer to the very heat that will burn them, and plummet them to the bottom of the sea. The attention that they get from each other during the merciful interludes between each heightening misunderstanding and argument, magnetizes them to each other instantenously after blow-ups..

U got quite an analogy, something to ponder on.

Ms. Mishchiefs was such a delight in the snankhaksh with her childlike giggles and zeal. Its purpose was to entice Malay, but the poor sap who got stuck in the trap was Chandra. Her girlish demeanor increased his delight when she was talking about the renewed love, and the same demeanor adds to his chagrin when she says that one forbidden word - Malay. His smile when she said I love you, was the sign of the renewed life of his dying love. But alas, with Aapama and Roopa roaming free, how does one smile for long?

Actually wild, unrestrained, wanton behavior of this new Chamiya in the mahal is interesting😉. Like her attitude, no holding back. Is Aapama the name or is it given by the forumwasi ?.anyway ,it does suite her to the tee.

He walks away in angst and anger, and stands there letting it runs its course lest he pummel someone to pulp when walks in none other than Malay with the worst of proof in hand. When he said I know what to do, I thought he was going to question Nandini. But no. Instead he decides to take a bath. Ok, honeslty I thought he was going to make her bath with her...hehehehe... he disappointed me until...ehem...ehem... So moving on. I was happy to hear Nandini's inner voice going on with what is wrong, after all he is your husband. I know he is doing it to spite me but I will do it after all'. So again, I was dreaming about some Hindi movie style stuff, where she will try to rub the past and he will swiftly drag her into the water. But ALAS! He drags Katherina Minola reincarnate.

Now I am stupefied with why Helena does not find any of this absurd of humiliating for herself. And her, its ok soon I will have you all for myself is even more bizarre. In all of the exchange, however minimal it was, he never once took his eyes of Nandini. Even as he pulled Helena close his eyes were firmly fixed to Nandini. And this time, Rajat should take a bow (god how many has he had to already?) for confining that fire of hate and anger within the molten lava dripping from his eyes alone. If I was Nandini, I would happily jump off the balcony than stand the intensity of that glare! Yikes. No snarling, no visible gritting of teeth, nothing OTT. Just perfect.

Helena for all her speeches on how she will reign victory is nothing but a stupid blind vamp who has no inkling of what really is happening. Her mom aptly calls her bewakoof . And still she cannot get a single idea despite her mother's exasperation that what happened is not an victory, and there is much more. What a dumb colt. Sigh... I like her a lot at that scene by the lake right after Chandra lost his battle. She was lovely. How did she degrade so much so fast?

For one thing, Dadi is here to stay because she is the glue that is sticking the jodi together through sticky situation. (BTW I would not have paid a dime to that artist...I didn't feel the portrait did justice to them both). Just like he panicked when Nandini fainted, his worry is immediate when she yelps in pain. I loved the part where he came close to her while telling Dadi he came searching for her and now caught her, simultaneously catching her hurt hand. Very nicely done.

The highlight to me was the tone of voice as he applied lep and talking all the time. Again, I congratulate him for not yelling, snarling or just being a total donkey. For a man who said kitne teh' with so less reason, this time instead all that came through was his pain. I am extremely glad that he showed her that letter. Instead of both talking in code languages that the other cannot understand, at least this time some clarity is there. Whether after her bas she will say he has stooped so low to even fake this letter or she will say I am leaving for I cannot bear this insult or pain anymore, I don't know. All I know is that she now should know, on top of Moora seeing her smoking, Chandra watching her going into Malay's room, now Malay is able to produce a letter written by her. Well, of course she can always say Malay faked it - after all Malay told her he will get her after ridding Chandra, so this could be one of his tricks. Whatever it is, it is about time Nandini used the yodha's brain, if any is left after being churned into chutney by her love and figure out what the hell is going on.

I wonder what did Roopa do to that gift.

In the meantime I found this 2 quotes that I think sums up Chandra and Nandini

To Chandra - "Love hurts when it changes us.", Toba Beta, Betelgeuse Incident: Insiden Bait Al-Jauza

To Nandini - "I wanted to punch him and understand him at the same time." Shannon A. Thompson, Take Me Tomorrow

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: AJSharma79


Thanks Shailaja...

Can't decide which i should be sighing at ...their pained love, or Chandra-Hamam...but i am sighing

My heart pains for both of them, but a bit more for Nandini. There is plotting and scheming all around her. She does not have even a single straw to cling to. She is so lost, oblivious, and obviously unequal to face anything that is happening to her. She is so fragile and brittle like a beautiful piece of German glass. She needs a mountain to stand behind her, shield her, and protect her from the rest of the world, and all she gets is a suspicious, jealous and hateful husband whom she has the additional misfortune of falling in love with. Chandra, my heart pains for him too. But in several places I feel he compounds his own problems with his thoughtlessness, viciousness, vindictive behavior, crass words and even cruder behavior. I understand his hatred and jealousy but it sounds insane at many points. I just hope he goes to similar lengths for his love as well in future as he is going for his jealousy now.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: AJSharma79

Chandra and Nandini are the sun to each other's Icarus. That is all I could think of at the end of the episode today. The inviting warmth of the sun, makes them soar higher and nearer to the very heat that will burn them, and plummet them to the bottom of the sea. The attention that they get from each other during the merciful interludes between each heightening misunderstanding and argument, magnetizes them to each other instantenously after blow-ups.

Anne - I simply loved what you have written here - The serial thankfully has got a strikgly good couple and no devi maa as yet. And then there is Akka's posts and a number of so many interesting intrepreations of the love story - I spend an awful time on this thread daily and I can't get enough of it still.

I love strong emperors and warroris like Akbar, CGM and BajiRao I ( who never lost any of his 40 battles) But CGM as an obsessed lover is also good. Even though I would have loved to see a lot of politics and battles, I am not complaining here as the devi maa has not been constructed and Nandini loves CGM madly.

See - My Take is that Chandra's is a higher form of Obsession, love and passion. He is just hopelessly in love. So I find his turmoil more interesting. He is looking for that one clue or word which will prove that N is not in love with Malay. But alas he keeps getting exactly the opposites of it.

Ms. Mishchiefs was such a delight in the snankhaksh with her childlike giggles and zeal. Its purpose was to entice Malay, but the poor sap who got stuck in the trap was Chandra. Her girlish demeanor increased his delight when she was talking about the renewed love, and the same demeanor adds to his chagrin when she says that one forbidden word - Malay. His smile when she said I love you, was the sign of the renewed life of his dying love. But alas, with Aapama and Roopa roaming free, how does one smile for long?

SBP has created two characters in our minds with only grown nails as the differentiator speaks volumes of her abilities. I am still not warmed up to R as I am emotionally involved with N and Chandni. I should open up my mind more. But do you see that Choopa moments do not have intensity or a longing unlike chandni moments ? Or Am I imagining ?

He walks away in angst and anger, and stands there letting it runs its course lest he pummel someone to pulp when walks in none other than Malay with the worst of proof in hand. When he said I know what to do, I thought he was going to question Nandini. But no. Instead he decides to take a bath. Ok, honeslty I thought he was going to make her bath with her...hehehehe... he disappointed me until...ehem...ehem... So moving on. I was happy to hear Nandini's inner voice going on with what is wrong, after all he is your husband. I know he is doing it to spite me but I will do it after all'. So again, I was dreaming about some Hindi movie style stuff, where she will try to rub the past and he will swiftly drag her into the water. But ALAS! He drags Katherina Minola reincarnate.

Boy King fighting that huge disappointment or a betrayal. he cannot get it out unless he thinks he has taken the revenge 😆. Let him do - We will have some good time. 😉 - And love the jealous lover mind you it is not jealous husband. Jealous husband was 1 week back. 😉 Somewhere has he sensed that Nandini loves him ? But circumstances are so against it .

Now I am stupefied with why Helena does not find any of this absurd of humiliating for herself. And her, its ok soon I will have you all for myself is even more bizarre. In all of the exchange, however minimal it was, he never once took his eyes of Nandini. Even as he pulled Helena close his eyes were firmly fixed to Nandini. And this time, Rajat should take a bow (god how many has he had to already?) for confining that fire of hate and anger within the molten lava dripping from his eyes alone. If I was Nandini, I would happily jump off the balcony than stand the intensity of that glare! Yikes. No snarling, no visible gritting of teeth, nothing OTT. Just perfect.

Yes - He was marvellous. And was n't he looking super handsome with the half-white silk towel put around his shoulders ?!!!!

Helena for all her speeches on how she will reign victory is nothing but a stupid blind vamp who has no inkling of what really is happening. Her mom aptly calls her bewakoof . And still she cannot get a single idea despite her mother's exasperation that what happened is not an victory, and there is much more. What a dumb colt. Sigh... I like her a lot at that scene by the lake right after Chandra lost his battle. She was lovely. How did she degrade so much so fast?

Dumbing down of Helena Week 😉. Infact if they keep her brainy, revengeful and hater of Nandini, there is no need for Aapama etc. But Brainy part is being slowly taken away from her.

For one thing, Dadi is here to stay because she is the glue that is sticking the jodi together through sticky situation. (BTW I would not have paid a dime to that artist...I didn't feel the portrait did justice to them both). Just like he panicked when Nandini fainted, his worry is immediate when she yelps in pain. I loved the part where he came close to her while telling Dadi he came searching for her and now caught her, simultaneously catching her hurt hand. Very nicely done.

Catching her hand was lovely. 😳 - I like daadi - Do not know why.

The highlight to me was the tone of voice as he applied lep and talking all the time. Again, I congratulate him for not yelling, snarling or just being a total donkey. For a man who said kitne teh' with so less reason, this time instead all that came through was his pain. I am extremely glad that he showed her that letter. Instead of both talking in code languages that the other cannot understand, at least this time some clarity is there. Whether after her bas she will say he has stooped so low to even fake this letter or she will say I am leaving for I cannot bear this insult or pain anymore, I don't know. All I know is that she now should know, on top of Moora seeing her smoking, Chandra watching her going into Malay's room, now Malay is able to produce a letter written by her. Well, of course she can always say Malay faked it - after all Malay told her he will get her after ridding Chandra, so this could be one of his tricks. Whatever it is, it is about time Nandini used the yodha's brain, if any is left after being churned into chutney by her love and figure out what the hell is going on.

If she does not explain or refute it strongly with some clear defence for her, I will be sorely disappointed. It will become boring from now on if she remains like this abla naari. She is a warrior and hence has to have some rightful brains as well.

I wonder what did Roopa do to that gift.

In the meantime I found this 2 quotes that I think sums up Chandra and Nandini

To Chandra - "Love hurts when it changes us.", Toba Beta, Betelgeuse Incident: Insiden Bait Al-Jauza

Wah !!!!

To Nandini - "I wanted to punch him and understand him at the same time." Shannon A. Thompson, Take Me Tomorrow

Ha ha ha !!!!

Edited by jayaks02 - 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shailusri1983

My heart pains for both of them, but a bit more for Nandini. There is plotting and scheming all around her. She does not have even a single straw to cling to. She is so lost, oblivious, and obviously unequal to face anything that is happening to her. She is so fragile and brittle like a beautiful piece of German glass. She needs a mountain to stand behind her, shield her, and protect her from the rest of the world, and all she gets is a suspicious, jealous and hateful husband whom she has the additional misfortune of falling in love with. Chandra, my heart pains for him too. But in several places I feel he compounds his own problems with his thoughtlessness, viciousness, vindictive behavior, crass words and even cruder behavior. I understand his hatred and jealousy but it sounds insane at many points. I just hope he goes to similar lengths for his love as well in future as he is going for his jealousy now.



Shailaja - Your Nandini is a minmini poochi in the darkest of night ( Amavasya type) and Chandra fancies that Poochi. . But serial Nandini is a vittil poochi who willingly goes and dies a hundred deaths by the words and actions of Chandu. And then miracolously she gets a rebirth next day morning to do it once again. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
Now comes the Neyar Virrupam.
Akka and perima both - Please write mini posts on the following scenes.

1. Monkey reference scenes - Haiku
2. Chithra scene and lep Scene - Akka

Please !!!!

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