Chandra Nandini 21-22: Plot on a gallop! - Page 13

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

I agree with you. Nandini cannot say she does not know the truth. She is just not willing to see the truth or recognize it. Even in that precap, she hears her father planning to harm Chandra's family. She seems to be okay with it and does not think it to be wrong. Such double standards and hypocrisy!!! Would she like if her own mother, Avantika receives even one tenth of the kind of treatment Chandra's mother Moora received from Nand? She will raise her Nari Shakti and Nari Mukti Moorcha Slogans.

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

I agree with you. Nandini cannot say she does not know the truth. She is just not willing to see the truth or recognize it. Even in that precap, she hears her father planning to harm Chandra's family. She seems to be okay with it and does not think it to be wrong. Such double standards and hypocrisy!!! Would she like if her own mother, Avantika receives even one tenth of the kind of treatment Chandra's mother Moora received from Nand? She will raise her Nari Shakti and Nari Mukti Moorcha Slogans.

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Quiet an interesting discussion on Nandini v/s Helena

Helena is like a scorned woman, now imagine you will risk your life to save an man like malekeytu and he betrays you and even humiliates you saying you are a servant daughter not any emperors daughter. Which lady in BC or these modern times will accept such humiliation lying down? Ok now there cannot bee wars or instant revenge but atleast that lady will pay that maleyketu and his family gets destroyed will they not? Definetly, that is what helena is doing. So what is so wrong in that?

Chandra himself is doing the same as helena- he is trying to kill nand to avenge his guru chankya Does he have any personal grudge none(ok mura and his fathers killer but he does not know) is he not like helena? No matter he says he wants a better bharat and nand had sidded with foreigner greeks and raised an army against magadh but now he himself has married a greek princess and using greek army against nand?

Nandini on other side is another scorned woman - maleyketu was wrong in trying to abuse her physically and Nandini already had seen how he treated a daasi and yet went to him alone? Now she will marry him to defeat chandra? What sort of logic is this? This is a very big compromise even greater than helenas decision to marry a commoner chandra to defeat maleyketu. Yet we think helena is narcissistic and nandini damsel in distress an innocent girl forced by father and circumstance to marry maley.

Even in 21st century many girls are forced to marry grooms because their parents tell them too or their parents are indebted to them etc but we never say the girls are narcissist.

Second issue was helena is a greek any any foreigner is of low morals compared to an indian woman who is like sati savitri. But is this description truly correct are all foreigner girls cheap and low morals just because they dress different and dare to speak openly their thoughts in front of family and outsiders? And an indian princess is great even if her father is so cruel and she indirectly condones act because she is an indian girl? Ultimately the serial will potray something similar only. But hasn't helena too sacrificed for her revenge by marrying chandra and accepting indian culture and husband. In those times sati etc was prevalent and am sure greek woman status in their society was much better than indian womans position. Look how seleucus refused to marry helena to chandra but helena accepted.

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Quiet an interesting discussion on Nandini v/s Helena

Helena is like a scroned woman, now imagine you will risk your life to save an man like malekeytu and he betrays you and even humiliates you saying you are a servant daughter not any emperors daughter. Which lady in BC or these modern times will accept such humiliation lying down? Ok now there cannot bee wars or instant revenge but atleast that lady will pay that maleyketu and his family gets destroyed will they not? Definetly, that is what helena is doing. So what is so wrong in that?

Chandra himself is doing the same as helena- he is trying to kill nand to avenge his guru chankya Does he have any personal grudge none(ok mura and his fathers killer but he does not know) is he not like helena? No matter he says he wants a better bharat and nand had sidded with foreigner greeks and raised an army against magadh but now he himself has married a greek princess and using greek army against nand?

Nandini on other side is another scroned woman - maleyketu was wrong in trying to abuse her physically and Nandini already had seen how he treated a daasi and yet went to him alone? Now she will marry him to defeat chandra? What sort of logic is this? This is a very big compromise even greater than helenas decision to marry a commoner chandra to defeat maleyketu. Yet we think helena is narcissistic and nandini damsel in distress an innocent girl forced by father and circumstance to marry maley.

Even in 21st century many girls are forced to marry grooms because their parents tell them too or their parents are indebted to them etc but we never say the girls are narcissist.

Second issue was helena is a greek any any foreigner is of low morals compared to an indian woman who is like sati savitri. But is this description truly correct are all foreigner girls cheap and low morals just because they dress different and dare to speak openly their thoughts in front of family and outsiders? And an indian princess is great even if her father is so cruel and she indirectly condones act because she is an indian girl? Ultimately the serial will potray something similar only. But hasn't helena too sacrificed for her revenge by marrying chandra and accepting indian culture and husband. In those times sati etc was prevalent and am sure greek woman status in their society was much better than indian womans position. Look how seleucus refused to marry helena to chandra but helena accepted.

The third issue here is Helena thinks about herself over all others and nandini thinks of family and kingdom over others. Indian girls are conditioned from childhood to think about parents, brothers, husband, children and in laws and only last about herself. The every sacrificing woman who scarifices everything for her family even her life no matter how lowly parents or siblings or husband etc behave the ever sacrificing ever loving bharatiya nari which helena is not and nandini is? Should not we salute a helena who avenges her respect that was torn apart by maley than a nandini crying herself into maley's arms after a forced marriage. No wonder rapes are hardly reported in india and molestation and sexual harrasment in colleges, offices just vrushed under carpet. Because that is how girls are brought up to hide anything in name of family honour or society honor.

Fourth issue is a big facade. Nandini becomes mahaan because she does not know what her father and brothers are up to in magadh. Is she a small baby cannot she see in what condition mura and other prisoners are kept, cannot she find out why they are there? has her mother not warned her for blind faith on father? Then what makes her so stupid and dumb, i will not say innocent. Nandini otherwise is as brave and cunning as a helena in war strategy etc I cannot believe such a girl does not know her father is? Every children after 10 know between right and wrong no matter BC or AD. I do not think any of nand's opressed will ever respect nandini, she will be tolerated as she is CGm wife thats all. Because nandini has seen mura and other prisoners whipped and tretaed like scum so many times and never saved them. Indirectly marriage to chandra will wipe away a stigma of being nands daughter and nandini may get some respect as CGm wife never as magadh princess or nand daughter ever. Because the sins are too huge and truly unpardonable. A man is after all know by company he keeps and nandini company for initial 16-17 years was nand and the crimes are too big to forgive just because she marries chandra. On other hand Helenas dad has not carried out atrocities on commoners or enemies to warrant a outsider treatment except for fact she is greek.

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To be continued

Originally posted by: Sutapasima

thanks for this thread Shyamala aunty

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My very dear Zhanna,

I am delighted to have you back on my threads! I had PMed you every single time hoping that you would turn up some time, and lo and behold, here you are! Whatever had happened to you in the interim? I hope you have been keeping reasonably well.

Do try and read my earlier posts as well, there are not too many of them, just to get a feel of the story.

Thanks for setting me right on the correct location of Colchis. When I first read the tale of the Golden Fleece, I was not bothered about the location, and had a vague idea it was somewhere in Asia Minor. I do not know why I wrote Greece here; sheer laziness, I guess. But I had no idea it was in modern Georgia. One learns all the time!