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Posted: 8 years ago
My dear Tejaswini,

First. You have to learn to relax. At this rate, you will get high BP!

And disregard the voice overs. All marriages in those days were vyapaar, as are a whole lot of them now as well, all across Asia.

Next, Helena and Chandra are, right now, partners. Partners focus on their joint project, not on ensuring the succession. If Chandra does not manage to conquer Magadha, what would any successor inherit, anyway?

I have spent a lot of time and effort analysing the Helena-Chandra relationship, both in my Plot on a trot post and in this one. I am sure you have read those parts. So how can you call the relationship one dimensional?

There is mutual trust, there is mutual respect, there is mutual confidence, and there is a partnership. What more do you want for now? I do not see how Chandra, who is, mentally, a bal brahmachari, can suddenly enter into a physical relationship with a woman after a samjhauta of a marriage. Nor how she would envisage that either.

I loved that scene. Helena is totally in control, and the way she crooks her finger and calls him to her was priceless, as was the way in which he responded, slowly and reluctantly, but he did move towards her. That summed up the bond between them right now. It is unusual and very interesting.

Look at how patiently, and in such an accommodating manner, he dissuades her from entering the battlefield with him. I liked that a lot too.

So chill, my dear, and possess your soul in patience. I am not concerned about Chandra's matrimonial tangles for now. What bothers me is that Nand might get hold of Chandra's idiot of a foster mother and blackmail him into surrendering. Now that would be very sad. Let us see what happens.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham

hi aunty! hope all is well! finally caught up with the show again and i must say whilst im fairly impressed with the war sequences, chandra and helena's one dimensional relationship has made me really annoyed- especially how they kept on cutting to nandini throughout the marriage sequence...we get it, she'll be his true lubh the title kind of says it all. what is the need for all this cliched divine connection? now coming to helena and chandra's relationship- i actually saw some very genuine sparks there- the chemistry between two co-conspirator who shared an amusing secret, someone who chandra was fascinated by, there was a playful undertone to their serious relationship where i was sure that nandini may control his heart but helena will control the mind. but alas! strong women are inherently seen by other women as selfish and destructive. helena is simply the caricture that reflects that but i still wish they'd explored her further. this is like 360 BC, a man can have a his unique equation with each wife- it'd make the story a lot more interesting rather than the cliched villain route they're making helena take. sad to see that potential squandered into a crazed person, just to essentially glorify nandini in the future- major yawn. now coming to the more practical matters- i burst out laughing when the voiceover was like- chandra didnt have any expectations from this marriage cos it was vyapar and not pyaar...uhhh...sooo...will he be marrying nandini for pyaar? i thought that will be a samjhauta as well so y this rather wasted bhashan? and which king has ever married arbitrarily for love? it was almost always arranged and they found their equation through that. so i really didnt understand that at all. the second practical matter- the suhagraat of chandra helena that they spent strategizing...are they serious? chandra is to be a raja; they are at war. surely the value of an heir is quite apparent to them all no? chanakya cant have foreseen that chandra will 100% make it through this war long enough to impregnate an indian woman. surely a half greek heir would be better than none? shouldnt that have been their first strategy in bed? that scene was really unrealistic, now nandini- idk whats missing. the actress is not bad but everytime shes on screen i feel a sharp poke in my neck. shes such a hindi serial FL types loud mouthed and self righteous. i just cant connect. wanted to but i fail.

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Posted: 8 years ago
Thank you very much, my dear Chahat.

I agree with all that you have said here, especially with the lack of good and patient scripting. But I think the nature of the viewers, has changed too, and their attention span has diminished. And, just like films, that have to make their money in just 2 weeks now, not over 6 months as earlier, TV shows too, even Ekta's, have to show high TRPs very quickly.

As I noted somewhere above, I think the TRPs for Chandra Nandini, though they are higher than those for Jodha Akbar till week 7, when the shaahi shaadi saptah began, are the key to this breakneck speed. They will rise once the conflicts between Chandra and Nandini, and Helena and Nandini begin, which is where the CVs are clearly headed.Whence the need for Helena to marry him first.

Let us relax and go with the flow. I am not concerned about Chandra's matrimonial tangles for now. What bothers me is that Nand might get hold of Chandra's idiot of a foster mother and blackmail him into surrendering. Now that would be very sad. Let us see what happens.

Shyamala Aunty

QUOTE=chahat4u]Hello Aunty. Once again fabulous write up. About the fast forward & short cut way to show Chandra & Chanakya winning all kingdoms. The tracks are going too fast as per me. Either Ekta does not have expertise and patience to show those. Or she loves her dramas & love stories more. Though some drama was very much possible in those tracks too. They could move along side other tracks. I wonder if they will show all this so fast. In later episodes what ll happen? I have seen Old Chanakya when it was aired. It was a masterpiece though I dont remember much of it. Even if it wasnt possible to show sub-tracks in that manner. It could b made entertaining. PRC is example how planning and all kinds of sub tracks can be made entertaining. Personally I am disappointed with fast pace of show.
About Rajat's acting. Its always heart winning and spellbinding. 😃

Reverse order of marriage😆 I am sure one reason is 'coz showing Helena first wife means more drama. According to her character in show. How she will be disappointed and angry to not become Queen of Magadh in real meaning despite being Chandra's first wife.
Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">My dear Tejaswini,

First. You have to learn to relax. At this rate, you will get high BP!

And disregard the voice overs. All marriages in those days were vyapaar, as are a whole lot of them now as well, all across Asia.

Next, Helena and Chandra are, right now, partners. Partners focus on their joint project, not on ensuring the succession. If Chandra does not manage to conquer Magadha, what would any successor inherit, anyway?

I have spent a lot of time and effort analysing the Helena-Chandra relationship, both in my Plot on a trot post and in this one. I am sure you have read those parts. So how can you call the relationship one dimensional?

There is mutual trust, there is mutual respect, there is mutual confidence, and there is a partnership. What more do you want for now? I do not see how Chandra, who is, mentally, a bal brahmachari, can suddenly enter into a physical relationship with a woman after a samjhauta of a marriage. Nor how she would envisage that either.

I loved that scene. Helena is totally in control, and the way she crooks her finger and calls him to her was priceless, as was the way in which he responded, slowly and reluctantly, but he did move towards her. That summed up the bond between them right now. It is unusual and very interesting.

Look at how patiently, and in such an accommodating manner, he dissuades her from entering the battlefield with him. I liked that a lot too.

So chill, my dear, and possess your soul in patience. I am not concerned about Chandra's matrimonial tangles for now. What bothers me is that Nand might get hold of Chandra's idiot of a foster mother and blackmail him into surrendering. Now that would be very sad. Let us see what happens.

Shyamala Aunty


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I think other way round way round
It will pave way for Chandra real identity disclosure
As there was no need to dram a morpankh as none yet has noticed it
And it's only something not that big to be noticed
Once padmanand will know Chandra real identity he himself will wage war and challenge moora
And most importantly nandini will see her father in different light as in precap she not liked the idea
Padmanand was responsible for separation and he will only be responsible for reunion
And moreover I think it will pave way for chqndni marriage
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Posted: 8 years ago
Dear Gaushiv,

For a moment, I could not grasp what you were referring to! So it is my last para.

It remains to be seen what actually happens, and that will depend on how soon the end battle for Magadha is intended to take place. I am not sure that it is going to be so neat. Chandra and Nandini get married only after he has killed her father and all her brothers, remember?

But yes, Nandini does not like Padmanand's blackmailing idea.

I remember you very well from Prem's thread. Did you read the opening post on this thread? If you did, and you liked it, please hit the Like button. I like to keep track of my readers.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: gaushiv13



I think other way round way round
It will pave way for Chandra real identity disclosure
As there was no need to dram a morpankh as none yet has noticed it
And it's only something not that big to be noticed
Once padmanand will know Chandra real identity he himself will wage war and challenge moora
And most importantly nandini will see her father in different light as in precap she not liked the idea
Padmanand was responsible for separation and he will only be responsible for reunion
And moreover I think it will pave way for chqndni marriage



Originally posted by: sashashyam

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">My dear Tejaswini,

First. You have to learn to relax. At this rate, you will get high BP!

And disregard the voice overs. All marriages in those days were vyapaar, as are a whole lot of them now as well, all across Asia.

Next, Helena and Chandra are, right now, partners. Partners focus on their joint project, not on ensuring the succession. If Chandra does not manage to conquer Magadha, what would any successor inherit, anyway?

I have spent a lot of time and effort analysing the Helena-Chandra relationship, both in my Plot on a trot post and in this one. I am sure you have read those parts. So how can you call the relationship one dimensional?

There is mutual trust, there is mutual respect, there is mutual confidence, and there is a partnership. What more do you want for now? I do not see how Chandra, who is, mentally, a bal brahmachari, can suddenly enter into a physical relationship with a woman after a samjhauta of a marriage. Nor how she would envisage that either.

I loved that scene. Helena is totally in control, and the way she crooks her finger and calls him to her was priceless, as was the way in which he responded, slowly and reluctantly, but he did move towards her. That summed up the bond between them right now. It is unusual and very interesting.

Look at how patiently, and in such an accommodating manner, he dissuades her from entering the battlefield with him. I liked that a lot too.

So chill, my dear, and possess your soul in patience. I am not concerned about Chandra's matrimonial tangles for now. What bothers me is that Nand might get hold of Chandra's idiot of a foster mother and blackmail him into surrendering. Now that would be very sad. Let us see what happens.

Shyamala Aunty


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Posted: 8 years ago
My dear Prem,

As usual, an interesting and hatke set of points. My comments are in blue.

Shyamala Aunty

Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Tejaswini,

First. You have to learn to relax. At this rate, you will get high BP!

😆 aunty i live in America right now and have recently been working as a legal advisor for women empowerment forums so after Tuesday night no chill hopping for me 😃 i guess things could be worse- i could be an immigration lawyer. 😆

And disregard the voice overs. All marriages in those days were vyapaar, as are a whole lot of them now as well, all across Asia.

Next, Helena and Chandra are, right now, partners. Partners focus on their joint project, not on ensuring the succession. If Chandra does not manage to conquer Magadha, what would any successor inherit, anyway?

Once Helena's marriage is dissolved and chandra no more what then ties the greek army to this cause? not much if there is no heir. i was just thinking along those lines. but i do agree that may be succession is not of utmost importance right now.

I have spent a lot of time and effort analysing the Helena-Chandra relationship, both in my Plot on a trot post and in this one. I am sure you have read those parts. So how can you call the relationship one dimensional?

I actually havent read the plot on trot post but will surely look into it asap but this one i did. by one dimensional i meant we're back to the whole ruqaiyya complex- the bad wife, the cunning wife, the non-nurturer, the woman who sold her father off for her own justice vs the woman who got harassed by a man to fulfill her father's wishes, the way they portray it- being strong and cunning is a negative thing. if you look at most great kings, the wives they valued were usually the cunning strategists- ruqaiyya, nur-jahan, dheerbai, charumitra or ashok's last wife tishyaraksha. they were all cunning and ambitious. but in tv they tend to distort these characters into portraying a villain- the feminist in me really dislikes it. selfish ambition is not a male privilege and neither is it wrong to be goal oriented. you and i can see the subtle difference in the characters but most female audience are conditioned to simply empathize with the woman who cries buckets in silence suffering than women who are willing to do anything for their cause- headstrong women. thats what i meant by one dimensional in a character graph sense. and its not the portrayal thats the problem but the voice over and the constant comparison to nandini's putri dayitv that draws a black line over helena.

There is mutual trust, there is mutual respect, there is mutual confidence, and there is a partnership. What more do you want for now? I do not see how Chandra, who is, mentally, a bal brahmachari, can suddenly enter into a physical relationship with a woman after a samjhauta of a marriage. Nor how she would envisage that either.

i had admittedly forgotten about the bal brahmachari bit. 😆 that would be a bit strange then.

I loved that scene. Helena is totally in control, and the way she crooks her finger and calls him to her was priceless, as was the way in which he responded, slowly and reluctantly, but he did move towards her. That summed up the bond between them right now. It is unusual and very interesting.

i felt a special kind of love for that scene admittedly. inside my head a loud cheering was going on- you go girl! 😆

Look at how patiently, and in such an accommodating manner, he dissuades her from entering the battlefield with him. I liked that a lot too.

So chill, my dear, and possess your soul in patience. I am not concerned about Chandra's matrimonial tangles for now. What bothers me is that Nand might get hold of Chandra's idiot of a foster mother and blackmail him into surrendering. Now that would be very sad. Let us see what happens.

Shyamala Aunty

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Posted: 8 years ago
*kaan pakad ke sorry*
I promise I'll be a good girl from here onwards, Aunty...😊

Going to see Rock On 2 now...😃
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

There are three theories or rather four theories of why Chandra will marry Durdhara.

1. Durdhara is being forcibly married off by her father to a wife-beater, drunkard of a husband. Chandra gets bitten by the Sir Galahad bug of chivalry and of course decides to save her by marrying her himself.

2. Durdhara is ditched at the Mandap by the groom she is about to marry for the sake of dowry. She cries buckets, her father cries buckets, Chandra's mother cries enough to fill an empty well, and Chandra decides he has had enough of all this nonsense and fills Durdhara's Mang suddenly with Jai Durga Jai Durga Jai Durga playing in the background blasting off all our ears.

3. Durdhara's groom is killed by Padmanand and his men by mistake instead of Chandra who is also attending this marriage because she is his cousin. Everyone begins blaming and reproaching Chandra from all sides full inquisition style. In the meantime, Durdhara madam has gone missing because she is thinking of committing suicide. Everyone one starts searching for her loudly calling her name for one full episode.

Meena Kumari and Anjali Devi rolled into one, Durdhara will be sitting near a flowing river thinking for hours together if the water will be too cold for suicide and what if she catches a nasty cold. At the last minute, Chandra will make a hero entry and stop her from taking her life. She will ask, "Ab main kiskeliye Zinda rahoon? Koi nahin hai ab mere liye...Mujh jaisa abhagan Ladki seh kaun Vivah Karega?"

And tha da, Chandra blurts out, "Main hoon Na! Main tumse Vivah karunga!" Chandra gets booked like this in his over enthusiasm to do good. Durdhara shocked to the core. There are revolving camera shots of her shocked expressions before she collapses in Chandra's arms and he catches her from falling. Episode ends!

4. A pretty ordinary theory, and not a tear jerker and TRP booster by any standards, Chanakya himself asks Chandra to marry Durdhara also for the sake of an Indian heir. He has his suspicions and reservations against a child born out of Indian and Macedonian union.




OMG 🤣🤣🤣

No. 2&3 are sure to happen in EK land🤣
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: mishtidoi



OMG🤣🤣🤣

No. 2&3 are sure to happen in EK land🤣

after that nandini enters and from now on there will be no role for chanakya as Helena will look after the foreign policy, durdhara the antahpur and snankaksh as well as kitchen nandini will be looking after the social welfare part. Poor Chandru is
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Posted: 8 years ago
That is my poppet!🤗

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

*kaan pakad ke sorry*

I promise I'll be a good girl from here onwards, Aunty...😊

Going to see Rock On 2 now...😃

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